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radair

Social climber
North Conway, NH
Jun 4, 2018 - 02:29pm PT
You guys have it covered but thought I'd tell a little tale from the 1980s so you can laugh at a couple of naive easterners.

We lived a few feet above sea level in Maine and were pretty well versed with alpine rock thanks to Mt. Katahdin and NH's Cannon Cliff. We were both pretty solid on 5.11 and had a grand plan of camping for most of a week and knock off a half dozen routes on the Diamond. We "acclimated" by climbing J Crack at Lumpy Ridge with the sweet 5.11 finger crack finish, then headed right up the notorious North Chimney to Broadway. Things went a little downhill from there.

We woke in the middle of the night to a raging snowstorm and when we got up in the morning the cliff was plastered in ice. But the sun was up so we figured we would let it bake off and start the following day, after all we had a week's worth of food. We were amazed to see not one but two parties come up the lower wall, give us an odd look and keep right on going up the Diamond. One guy said "you may be warm and happy now but this place will feel like death bivouac at noon". Indeed the wall shed ice for most of the day and we were cold & bored with raging altitude headaches and minimal water.

The following morning came and we reduced our plan to the Casual Route, which was outstanding. Not to be taken lightly, even the 5.8 dihedral felt like sustained climbing move after move. We managed to top out, tag the summit and followed the slabs down to Chasm View, where we rapped back to Broadway (still with the raging headaches). We immediately decided to get out of there NOW. So we packed our sh#t, rapped down the scary North Chimney and did a death march out to the car, arriving late at night.

The next day, tails between our legs, we headed down to the warmth of Buffalo Creek/South Platte and climbed Cynical Pinnacle.
spectreman

Trad climber
Jun 4, 2018 - 02:56pm PT
Great story Radair!!
Mad69Dog

Ice climber
Jun 4, 2018 - 03:15pm PT
"it’s just the hard climbing I’m afraid of, haha"

All of the harder moves have great pro. IIRC, the 10a move has a great ~finger size placement at your waist. The 5.7 traverse is slightly runout, but as long as it's not icy, no big deal.

I'd second the advice to go down to the N Face raps and go down the Camel.

No need to rap the N Chimney these days. Bomber bolted stations a bit to the S.

"I believe Cameron Tague died in early july (the 4th perhaps)...slipped on snow near the start to D7 if i recall...belaying across broadway is a good idea when wet or snowy!"

Yes, he fell down Field's Chimney. I was up there to do D7 with Eric Coomer shortly after. I soloed up to Broadway with our food and gear and spent the night as Eric planned to tag along with friends that were headed up the next day to do the Casual. They accidentally went up Fields instead of the North and got to witness the gruesome aftermath. Eric was a bit shook up by it as he was friends with Cameron.

"Anyone else have experience with the Chasm View to Broadway/rappel approach?"

I think the various modern guide books describe it fine. Last time I was there, the anchors were solid. You have some loose rock on the raps so you have to be careful to not kick on your partner. In early or icy season, the right side of the Diamond can drop large sheets of ice on the rap path. Voice of experience. The traverse of Broadway can be dicey if icy, so you may have to rope up.
AE

climber
Boulder, CO
Jun 4, 2018 - 05:42pm PT
Cameron Tague was a strong experienced climber, and his death should remind anyone that the Diamond is not a rock climb at altitude; it is a hard alpine rock climb. The long approach is dangerous, via the North Chimney, longer but a tad safer via rappel from Chasm View. Broadway is okay past the N. Chimney, but late snow, or rain/hail/snow any time of year can make footing treacherous; watched a heavily loaded guy in Tevas slide about fifteen feet as he was moving down to the rappel, fortunately stopping before the big air. Did the last two pitches of Pervertical in a downpour with graupel, then went over the top in cold, wet, clear mists. Do not go expecting a sunny rock climb. You can get below freezing temps, after being drenched if your gear isn't up to task, and don't be ashamed of aiding or pulling on gear/ the rope if it means getting out of there expeditiously. Weather comes over the mountain with zero warning, and if it does, well, people have died from lightning running down crack systems there. It is a great experience, but be prepared, realistic in your alpine skill sets, and willing to retreat if needed. Most Diamond veterans have stories about such retreats that can be more engaging than the successes.
Mad69Dog

Ice climber
Jun 4, 2018 - 06:56pm PT
"people have died from lightning running down crack systems there"

Probably one of the most amazing moments I've witnessed in the mountains was watching a bolt travel down near D1 then funnel into the N Chimney, with "little" tendrils popping all over the place. It was one of those times when you feel very alive.

"longer but a tad safer via rappel from Chasm View"

I've only gone the CV route when soloing, so carrying and rapping with 2 ropes, rack, etc., colors my opinion as rapping solo with a bag is not a favorite past time of mine. But going thru CV allows a N Face descent back to your stash or bivy. It only sucks if you leave something at CV then have to bail on your route - due to the weather, that sh#t can happen.

"or you can avoid all of the lightning by climbing it in the winter"

And you get to avoid the crowds too! (and warmth, comfort, etc.)
arareko

Trad climber
Mendoza, Argentina
Jun 4, 2018 - 10:31pm PT
Aside from all the beta related to weather, be wary of other climbers getting up the North Chimney above (or even below) you, as those approach pitches can sometimes feel like more of the day's crux than the Diamond itself...

If you see people already heading up the chimney before you, and you feel like the safest thing would be to wait for them to finish (as there, almost inevitably, will be falling rocks), consider approaching Broadway via Crack of Delight (II 5.7, 4 pitches), which can easily be done in 3 rope-stretching pitches. It is a much safer approach if you prefer to be roped up on a clean crack system instead of soloing (or pitching out) a choss-filled gully with people above your head. And, if you're efficient enough, you can even pass a few slow parties while they fumble with all the NC shenanigans and get on the upper wall ahead of them...
Nick Danger

Ice climber
Arvada, CO
Jun 5, 2018 - 07:23am PT
What started as sound advice to someone who hasn't yet been there has evolved into quite the Diamond love-fest. Longs Peak in General and the Diamond face in particular are certainly worthy of all the love shown here. I have only been up it a few times but it has (A) kicked my ass every time due to the effort at altitude, (B) been an extraordinary experience every single time whether I succeeded or not, and (C) is one of the most astonishing places I have ever been. In my personal experience only the Black Canyon matches it as an overwhelming setting for an adventure.

For me the Diamond is mountaineering first, with all its attendant objective hazards, it just happens to be stellar rock climbing as well. For me all of the rock climbs I had done or tried on the Diamond were just the very best rock for climbing - totally different from Sierra Nevada granite as it is possible for granite can be different from itself. I would also like to add that my failures on the Diamond were every bit as exciting as my successes; nothing quite like being snowed off that thing in a summer blizzard (and it was a true blizzard). Also, as locals who have been up on Longs Peak in the off-season know, the wind up there can be truly epic, well in excess of 100 mph. As a youth I always wanted to do a winter ascent of the Diamond, but never got around to that.

Roy, you are quite the witness to climbing history out here in the west and chronicler of same par extrodinaire. I really appreciate what you bring to the table and always love your posts - thanks, my friend.


My two-cents worth for newbies to RNMP is to second the suggestions for Spearhead routes, especially the Barb and Sykes Sickle, just outstanding climbs with less commitment than the Diamond. The Petit Grepon and Halletts Peak provide outstanding alpine rock routes but certainly crowded during peak season. Stettners Ledges is a classic and historic moderate rock climb on the lower east face of Longs Peak that always satisfies.
Be safe out there people.
Cheers

D-Storm

climber
Carbondale, CO
Jun 5, 2018 - 08:14am PT
Great stories here. I relate to many of them. I took a 40-footer when I slipped on the Flakes Traverse when it was iced up (at age 15); the next year I was starting to lead the last pitch to Table Ledge under blue skies only to have a storm come over the wall and change the direction of the day in 10 minutes—lightning struck the top of the wall and we got a mild shock that felt like sticking a paperclip into an electrical outlet. I've also had those glorious summit days. And people are right that every trip up there is memorable and special as long as you make out in one piece. Seems like these days there are quite a few aspirants who don't take the Diamond as seriously as they should, dismissing it as only a long 5.8 with a spot of 5.10a—I've heard more than one story of a boyfriend dragging his gym-climbing girlfriend up there for her first multipitch, etc. Not a place to f*#k around.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jun 5, 2018 - 08:18am PT
Whoever said you can avoid lightning by going in winter might be in for an unpleasant surprise.

I was up there in February of '75 for one of the scariest storms in my life.
Don Paul

Social climber
Denver CO
Jun 10, 2018 - 08:50pm PT
I was just up at Chasm Lake today. Almost nobody there and perfect weather. One party did a pitch or two of D7 then backed off. There was another group on the Ships Prow buttress but nobody else climbing anything.




skywalker1

Trad climber
co
Jun 10, 2018 - 09:08pm PT
Its that perfect mid June weather window! Call in sick and get on it!

S....

VVVV Awesome!!! :-)
JLP

Social climber
The internet
Jun 10, 2018 - 09:14pm PT
Looks a few weeks out to me. Also, not sure where that Marmot pic is from, but it's nowhere near Chasm Lake.
docsavage

Trad climber
Albuquerque, NM
Jun 11, 2018 - 06:40am PT
No, that's a generic marmot pic ... maybe because I was too busy chasing off the one who ate my shoes some years ago to snap a picture of the fat bastard ... just thought a word to the wise was in order as far as stashing gear around Chasm Lake ...
spectreman

Trad climber
Jun 11, 2018 - 08:36am PT
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Jun 11, 2018 - 10:16am PT
Obelisk FFA: Chris Reveley-Billy Roos, 1977

Almost 30 years ago now, Bill Roos first told me the story of his 1977 ascent of The Diamond's Obelisk with Chris Reveley, who managed the FFA. Billy died of renal cell carcinoma just a couple years ago, and not long before I had him tell me the story again, but I didn't take any notes and couldn't remember the salient features of the story, except that it involved some outlandish free climbing and some deep digging on the part of Reveley, and also some serious protection difficulties and struggles with a big off width crack. So I was quite pleased to find this oral history gem from Chris Reveley, recounted in great detail.

Chris Reveley:
And then, the first free ascent of the Obelisk, which was a transformative experience for me.

Interviewer:
How so?

Chris Reveley:
Well it’s the most scared I’ve ever been, except maybe on the south face of Aconcagua with Wayne Goss, later in life. George Hurley had done the first ascent. It’s a big white corner, so the Diamond comes across and then it goes into a big white, slightly overhanging inside corner. You can see it from 1-25 and it’s somewhat different rock than the rest of the Diamond. George Hurley and a friend had gone up and done the first ascent of it. It was odd that nobody had done that until then. It was kind of pretty late in the game. And they’d gone up there and somehow climbed this thing on aid. George would never divulge how much aid they used, [chuckles] He never mentioned the size of the cracks up there either, when I asked him if he thought it would be free climbable, all he said was, “Well, there’s some wide cracks up there.”

So I recruited another old acquaintance of mine from Eldorado Springs, a guy named Billy Roos. Cause I hadn’t seen Billy in a long time and we had some history and it was good to be up there with him. He was a guy with lots and lots of mountaineering experience, a good rock climber. I said, “Well I’ve got this thing I want to try and do on the Diamond, are you interested?” And he said, “Oh sure.” Without even asking me what it was. [chuckles] That was an epic day. We started off; I don’t remember whether we bivouacked or hiked in, I’m thinking we maybe hiked in. He could fill that in. You approach the base of the Obelisk across these rising set of ledges, not very hard, it’s like 5.6 or something to get right to the base. There are other more difficult approaches. So I was kind of leading out over this wet black stuff, the rock isn’t great. It’s right under the Window and climbs like that.

It was early enough in the season, so there were lots of big ice chunks lodged in these corners above us. I was, I don’t know, maybe 60’ from him and he’s on belay on this little spot on this tiny ledge. We are making our way to the base of the Obelisk, and all of a sudden we hear this kind or wrenching sound above us. And all I remember is him as saying “Hold.” So I held on and I looked over at him and this ice block had fallen out of the crack and I thought he was dead. I thought he was dead! [Chris Reveley speaking with great emotion.] But the ice block hit a ledge right above him and shattered into a million pieces. And I looked over and he was bathed in this light of a thousand chunks of ice. It just engulfed him. It was like the old transporter scenes in Star Trek where suddenly the sort of crinkly curtain falls around you and he just leaned down and he was just there to take the hit. I said, “Oh F*** here we go.”

And nothing. And I said, “You ok?” He goes, “yeah, fine.” Went on and did the climb, [laughter] So this day is full of moments like that. They are just burned in my memory. So we got over to the corner and I looked up at this thing and said, “God, no.” But Duncan had been up there and he came back to Kimoto’s house after this and I said, “What did you do today?” And he said, “Oh we went up,” I don’t know who he was with, but “Went up and took a look at the Obelisk.” I said, “Oh, what do you think?” He said, “Well, I think it’s important to leave something for the next generation.” I said, “Oh god.” But at that point I was just, when Duncan said something like that, I knew that it was serious business but I also knew that I had to go up there, [chuckles].

So we got over the base of the corner and I climbed up about 30’ and got a piece of gear in and down climbed that section and it’s just a big inside corner. It was just some sort of a little cam hexcentric underneath a little overlap. Didn’t look like it was worth anything at all, and I got down to a ledge and I looked at Roos_and I just thought, “Ok,” and I put my weight on this thing. If it pops out we’re done. I put my weight on it, more weight and it held. I said, “S***.” [laughter] Anyway, I went up and did the pitch which was probably the technical crux of the climb. It’s just grinding way, laybacking and I guess [people] subsequently have gone on the left wall and climbed a straight in crack that they claim is 5.11. A really classic just straight in hands route that peters out. Then they get back in the comer. I stayed right in the corner stemming out to the crack when I finally could, which was probably harder, or so they claim these days. And hanging on trying to put protection in.

And then we got up to the first belay where, I think it was first belay, where George Hurley had put in a bolt on his first ascent. Not only was it a bolt, it was a little quarter inch bolt with a Gerry death hanger on it. I don’t know if you know what those are, but it was a little tear shaped thing that; the physics of it are such that if you put weight on it, it preys the bolt out. [laughter] “Really, George?” So anyway, we had a good laugh about that. I really wasn’t laughing at that moment, because what was leaning out above me was a comer[?], in the main corner, and then stepped off from that was an off width crack that would prove to be sort of the, not the technical crux, but the psychological crux of the climb.

Another thing that just cracked me up, Bill Roos was a good rock climber but he knew his limits. So I finished that first pitch and I got up there and everything was in. I had the rope, I was anchored well. So he had watched me climb this pitch and he yelled up at me, he goes, “Those anchors any good?” I said, “Yeah, tie that rope off for a second.” “Ok” I thought he had to go to the bathroom or something. So I tied the rope off, [chuckling] I looked up and out of his pockets come two jumars already rigged with etriers, slaps them on and he’s coming up the rope. You know, this guy.

I needed to laugh and he made me laugh all day. [Again, speaking with emotion] That probably made the climb possible, cause when you’re so burdened down by fear and loathing of what’s above you, you really need a little relief. And I just laughed and he was the perfect partner. The next pitches went up the corner, of course we didn’t have camming devices of any kind, it was all nuts. Big nuts, little nuts, nuts, hexcentrics, and stoppers. The climb as I remember, or the crack on that second part as I remember the geometry, the crack comes in this way and then a crack comes out this way. And they kind of meet in these plains of rock and it was wet. And I kept putting in these nuts, end wise things that were just kind of swinging. It wasn’t great protection; I didn’t remember having a lot of confidence in anything I placed on that pitch getting up to the off width. So [when] I ultimately did get up there, it was a little wet in that crack.

So I was up there all splayed out, looking down this line of gear that, you know when you are nervous and you don’t know what to do, you kind of pull on the rope to make sure that it’s running ok. [chuckles] I’d pull on the rope and all of the nuts would swing like this, like the brooms in the Saucer’s Apprentice or something in the Disney animated film, [laughter] They all looked like they were about to fall out. I really didn’t have any confidence that the protection was good up to that point. So I was all spread out and at that point you have to make the move into the off width. I was really kind of paralyzed for a while. At that time we had no camming devices, so I had tube chocks. Did you ever see a tube chock? It’s basically a tube of metal about that big around and slightly beveled on the ends. They worked occasionally pretty well if you have an irregular crack. But that off width, that last hundred and so feet on the Obelisk is perfectly uniform. So I had a little bit of gear left. I had my three tube chocks over here and I knew I had nothing to protect the remainder of the climb with and it’s a long way. It starts out with very steep, I don’t think it’s quite overhanging and glassy. It’s very smooth on the inside and so you gotta get in and just use pure off width climbing technique. I was pretty good at that in those days, but I was terrified. Cause I had this idea in my mind that if I had fallen off it was going to be a 250’ fall and I was seeing the anchors ripped out where Billy was, and I remember just apologizing silently to him. Cause he may even have had a hip belay and that was going to cut him in half.

“Billy, I’m so sorry.” The other thing I did at that moment was to appeal to all the gods of climbing that I knew and every other god. I said, “Ok, try and breathe. What would Duncan Ferguson do here? What would Jim Erickson do here? What would Art Higby do here?” I went through all of them, “Erickson, Erickson, he would talk to himself, he always talked to himself when he was climbing. Ok, you’re ok. So, talk to yourself, it’s a off width, you’ve climbed that before, you know how to do this. What would Duncan do, well he would kind of do a sort of a yoga breathing and try and relax. Relax, ok, ok. What would Art Higby do? He would find a clever way to rest, that’s what he was really good at.” So I went through all this litany of people, my mentors really, and ultimately I don’t think any of that helped, [laughter].

So I finally said, “Well, I’ve done this before, probably climbed harder things, I can probably do this again.” It was so cool because there was this sort of cool breeze coming out of the crack; it’s like this look into a million years ago. It felt like the mountain had taken this air in three million years ago and it was breathing it out. I was anxious and sweating but I was getting bathed in this cool breeze. It was calming to the extent that I could be calmed at all at that moment. I was finally getting tired in this stemmed out position. I said, “Gotta do something here.” Again, the geometry of all that, I reached over and pulled sideways on the off width and stuck my left side in, stuck my knee in and it fit perfectly. My knee had tightened up and I could almost hang off of it. When I straightened up it could slide easily.

And that’s all I remember. At certain moments like that you don’t maybe form memories. I remember flopping on to the ledge at the top of that off width, looking at the rope running down through the crack. My tube chocks are clanging melodiously at my side. It reminded me of those bells the yaks wear in the Himalayas, [chuckles]. Maybe that was comforting too. I remember being so exhausted I couldn’t speak at the top and I knew I couldn’t speak because, Chip Salaun, who was a guy who hung out on Longs Peak at the time and did studies of the vegetation and the crack systems and what not. A lot of people knew who he was; he was an eccentric character, an endurance athlete, a climber. He would live up on those ledges at the top of the Diamond for weeks on end in this little hooch tarp. I was lying at the top of the crack and I looked up and Chip poked his head over the top and he said, “Did you do the Obelisk? Did you free climb it? Cause damn, I wanted to do that.” I couldn’t speak.

[This was a beautifully emotional and dramatic moment in the interview as Chris Reveley reflected upon the majesty of climbing]

Those kind of days, I think. In climbing when you are with the right person at this sweet spot, when everything works, there’s nothing like it. That’s why I went climbing.

 Chris Reveley's reportage on the FFA of the Obelisk, excerpted, cleaned up and reformatted from this interview transcript:
https://archive.org/stream/ChrisReveleyOhTranscript/chris%20reveley%20oh%20transcript_djvu.txt


BILL ROOS:



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