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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 14, 2018 - 01:44am PT
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How, in the name of logic and diplomacy, does it make sense that Trump disrespected the Queen of England?
Trump is INSANE.
A petulant man-child, unleashed, and empowered by Aleister Crowley's maxim, "Do What Thou Wilt", is now the president?
The United States Congress must invoke the power vested in them, and stop this madman.
DONALD JOHN TRUMP IS INSANE.
An idiot president, experimenting and gambling with other people's lives and money, was not in the original concept of America.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Jul 14, 2018 - 08:37am PT
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Of course if crimes were committed there should be consequences.
But seriously, does anybody think any of this stuff, be it Comey's last minute statements or Trump's "Grab her by the pussy," or Russian hacking or social media activities made any difference?
This election was defined by two groups: anyone but Hillary, and anyone but Trump. I doubt Clinton voters ran over to Trump because of Comey, or Trump voters abandoned their candidate for any reason whatsoever. We should call this the coolaid election. Sad state of affairs.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jul 14, 2018 - 08:48am PT
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You're a Russian bot. All of you are. They're everywhere!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Jul 14, 2018 - 08:51am PT
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Jul 14, 2018 - 09:17am PT
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KSolem, Yes, it DID make a difference. Two of my siblings went Bernie instead of Clinton, based on the Hillary Hate disinformation campaign. While they both did end up voting Clinton, there were a LOT of people who just refused. The Bernie Bomb WAS part of the Russian campaign, and it was effective.
My niece went to vote and found her affiliation had been switched to Republican. WTF was THAT about, and how many others didn't even notice, perhaps because they weren't actively voting in recent elections?
Also, inside scoop does say there was also some amount of actual vote tally hacking; expect to learn about it on MSM in the upcoming months.
The site is hitting the fan, and I don't know, honestly, what it would take for those still thinking this is just Send trying to stall progress for the GOP, to believe it's as bad as we've been saying. But look on the bright side... The guys I've been getting my information from insist that there will be plenty of Democracy pols netted in this catch, too.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 14, 2018 - 09:26am PT
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tRump is a con man and a pathological liar. Uncle Puti saw this and decided to help out, knowing it would help destroy Americas credibility.
It had to be subtle. Anything major and overt would have been too easily detected.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jul 14, 2018 - 09:53am PT
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Is it a surprise to anyone with a triple digit iq that one nation would want to affect the outcome of another's elections?
We, after all, have a proud history of flat out destroying other nations(by murdering them with bombs and stuff) if we can't control a puppet regime.
To think our elections are somehow sacred to every other nation is a special kind of 'tarded.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Jul 14, 2018 - 09:58am PT
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Therefore we should just let anyone control our elections.
Right.
This is what I mentioned earlier,defense of treason,really.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jul 14, 2018 - 09:59am PT
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But seriously, does anybody think any of this stuff, be it Comey's last minute statements or Trump's "Grab her by the pussy," or Russian hacking or social media activities made any difference?
Trump won by 80,000 votes in a few states
80,000.
1/10 of 1% of the electorate.
It’s ludicrous to think it didn’t make a difference.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Jul 14, 2018 - 10:30am PT
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The Bernie Bomb WAS part of the Russian campaign, and it was effective.
Seriously? Citation?
The Bernie Bomb, as you call it, was engineered inside the Democrat Party. Behind closed doors. Obama left the party $24M in debt. It was broke. To finance her primary campaign Clinton entered into an agreement with the DNC that if she funneled some of her campaign contributions through the committee she would get control of the parties budget. She pulled large amounts of money away from state party coffers to keep her campaign afloat. Money that should have been reserved for the general election, after the primaries. Not illegal, but highly unethical. Having the party by the short hairs, they cleared the deck for her as the presumed nominee, and Bernie was left financing his own campaign. These shenanigans are outlined in a book by interim chair of the Democrat Party at the time, Donna Brazile. It doesn't sound like Russian meddling to me.
My niece went to vote and found her affiliation had been switched to Republican.
In some states this would have restricted her to voting for a Republican candidate in the primary. In the general she can vote for anyone she chooses.
Also, inside scoop does say there was also some amount of actual vote tally hacking; expect to learn about it on MSM in the upcoming months.
That is in the "wait and see" category for me. If it happened at all it's a serious problem, but I'd be surprised if it could have been done on a scale which would have changed Trump's significant Electoral College win.
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Jul 14, 2018 - 10:47am PT
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Yes and therefore we need to change the voting system so my side can win every time. Because those other people are evil.
DMT
Well it would be nice if the side that, you know, actually had the most votes, won.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Jul 14, 2018 - 11:10am PT
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What Xcon said...So if i rob a bank , gun in hand , but don't make off with the money , does this mean it wasn't a crime...?
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dirtbag
climber
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Jul 14, 2018 - 11:52am PT
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It doesn’t matter if it changed 1 vote or 50,000,000.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Jul 14, 2018 - 01:40pm PT
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Seriously? Citation?
With a quick search, here's just one, from Politico, and dated well before it was learned the bots on FB were a LOT more active than FB had originally acknowledge.
It happened, Kris, unfortunately. It was the same with Jill Stein, and is an old standard way from the Checkist playbook. "Managed opposition," an active measure; just one avenue designed to weaken HRC's campaign.
Just like the amplification of "Hillary was a hated candidate." Wile it is TRUE that there were people who "hate" her, that number is actually much smaller than the amplification campaign would have us think. Just as is going on now with the "The DNC has no message" campaign. Say it enough times and it becomes true.....
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dirtbag
climber
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Jul 14, 2018 - 02:36pm PT
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At this point, Trump’s indifference to the Russian threat has lost its capacity to shock. His instinct in the aftermath of the indictment was, as always, to lash out at a perceived threat to his validity rather than to acknowledge the gravity of the situation, looking back at 2016 or ahead to November and beyond.
But we — we in the media, and we as a country — fail in our responsibilities if we simply accept this response with a resigned shrug, Trump being Trump. It is folly to expect that to change. But it is self-defeating weakness, a corroding of baseline expectations of minimal presidential responsibility, not to call it out.
It is even worse, as too many Republicans — nearly all elected Republicans — are doing, to enable it. How sickening to read in Politico that, even as Rosenstein announced the indictment, House conservatives are “putting the finishing touches on an impeachment filing” to oust the meddlesome deputy. How laughable to claim, as did Trump’s private lawyer Rudy Giuliani, that the indictment shows it is “time for [special counsel Robert S. Mueller III] to end this pursuit of the President and say President Trump is completely innocent.”
It is time — past time — to do as Rosenstein suggested: think patriotically as Americans. That this even needed to be said tells you everything about where we are.
I never thought I’d have to question whether our president and members of congress are loyal Americans, but I have strong doubts about Trump and many of the congressional Republicans.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2018/07/14/rod-rosenstein-for-president/?utm_term=.d0c4e4d67bc8
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Jul 14, 2018 - 02:57pm PT
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You are catching on. Cheers.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 14, 2018 - 03:05pm PT
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tRump = Russian Stooge
tRump is going to "firmly" ask Uncle Puti about the proven election interference that made him president. Right......
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Jul 14, 2018 - 05:10pm PT
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A fun Trump protest sign in London.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Jul 14, 2018 - 05:20pm PT
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god forbid the democrats adopt jill and bernies language and policies and start winning?
bad enough we got to listen to that sh#t from Norton and craig…
oh my !
another powerful intellect raises its head!
ok X con, get specific, show my quotes where I laid out a "winning" strategy for the Dems
you got a typical "conservative" brain - make sh!t up in your head and keep repeating your own lies
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 14, 2018 - 05:39pm PT
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RICO
read up on it
Building a stupid fing wall has nothing to do with border security
Just ask what's his name
Everything & everybody comes in via tunnel, drone, the sea, Canada, vehicles not searched due to bribery
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