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Jim Brennan

Trad climber
Jun 27, 2018 - 06:54pm PT
Ghost, that was funny !

Now about that wall needed on the northern border. Oh yeah, it's already solved by Colonel Winter. Canada and Russia do have some things in common regardless of what our experiment with political dynasty, Justin says.

Maybe some policy global warming or political climate change would alter the facts. Who knows.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 27, 2018 - 07:40pm PT
You folks are really fake news personified,Bernie proposed free college and he was going to pay for it on a single traders tax,taxing each transaction 25 cents.

The Pentagon should still be disemboweled.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Jun 27, 2018 - 07:44pm PT
I did not mean you and I agree.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Jun 27, 2018 - 08:09pm PT
Will Donald and Melania be separated from their children when they are imprisoned for that russian thing....???
JC Marin

Trad climber
CA
Jun 27, 2018 - 08:35pm PT
" I don't really care, do u"?

When Melania mixes a couple of percocets with some champagne...got to get through the day somehow.
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 27, 2018 - 08:51pm PT
Or gut the Pentagon.


Trump has called for the biggest defense budget in U.S. history, and wants to cut food stamps.

Trump is such a simpleton, even after (supposedly) receiving a college degree in economics, his idea of analyzing the national budget is:

It all comes down to either guns or butter. Guns or butter. Look it up. I know what I'm talking about. WHARTON SCHOOL knowing what I'm talking about. Well, I say it's gotta be guns. Trust me. I know what I'm talking about. Besides, the women can make butter at home when they're not getting dinner ready.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Jun 27, 2018 - 08:55pm PT
Which is it ...Genius or simpleton...?
ground chuck

Ice climber
Olympia
Jun 27, 2018 - 08:59pm PT
judge says reunite families, liberal Latino woman elected, Korea rebuilding nuke sites,
another great day for the rumpster.
how do you like me now?
ground chuck

Ice climber
Olympia
Jun 27, 2018 - 09:02pm PT
you mean he gets to pick who puts him in jail?
wonderful!

yeah get some hardliner conservative in there, somebody who would shoot a traitor who sold out to russia to become president.
Lennox

climber
in the land of the blind
Jun 27, 2018 - 09:13pm PT
ATG, whoever you are, your cowardly, anonymously gloating ejaculation is premature.
Norton

climber
The Wastelands
Jun 27, 2018 - 09:19pm PT
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Missing photo ID#532981
Norton

climber
The Wastelands
Jun 27, 2018 - 09:20pm PT
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Missing photo ID#532982



*Is that you in there, honey boo boo?
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Jun 27, 2018 - 09:38pm PT
The supreme court , the newest legislative branch of the republican party and corporate America , has ruled that paying union dues is unconstitutional...thank god the republicans are looking out for middle class america...how bout another tax break for the 1%...?
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 27, 2018 - 09:53pm PT
Article 2, Section 4 of the Constitution states: "The president, vice president and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors."


Supreme Court justices are civil officers, and subject to the same rules. It is entirely possible to remove justices for "high crimes and misdemeanors". Treason and bribery don't really seem to be cards in play, at this point. And, really, neither are high crimes and misdemeanors.

I mean, if anybody knows how to skirt the law, and get away with it, it's a Supreme Court justice.

It would be a fool's errand to investigate any Supreme Court justice, and hope to find an evidence trail. Even if there was such a trail, it would lead off, and away, and into the ether, never to connect to, nor corroborate, an allegation.


Michael Aventatti said that Michael Cohen was an "evidence hoarder" (one of Avenatti's best lines, by the way).

Anybody who makes it onto the Supreme Court would not be an evidence hoarder.


So, impeaching any member of the Supreme Court would not seem to be feasible.



Next idea?

Anyone? Anyone?

Mueller? Mueller? Mueller? Mueller? Has anybody seen Mueller?

Fairest Mueller


rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Jun 27, 2018 - 10:16pm PT
True dat...all that shiz about clarence thomas squeezing a sisters butt was a hoax much the same as Big don shagging a porn star or Arnie's multiple gropings...never happened...Now those kennedy brothers...
ground chuck

Ice climber
Olympia
Jun 28, 2018 - 02:07am PT
for the dwindling minority known as the rump lickers>


"COMMENT: Melania Trump garnered considerable media attention when she visited a detention center for immigrants, including children, wearing a jacket that said “I Really Don’t Care. Do U?”

Tasteless on its surface, the statement assumes added significance when we factor in the fact that “I don’t care” (“Me Ne Frego” in Italian) was an important fascist slogan.

Furthermore, the Zara company that made Melania’s jacket has a history of marketing garments with fascist/racist overtones. It marketed a shirt that mimicked a concentration camp inmate’s garb and a swastika-enlaid handbag. It also marketed a Pepe The Frog skirt.

“A Brief (Fascist) History of ‘I Don’t Care’” by Giovanni Tiso; Overland; 06/22/2018

This article was sparked by the jacket that Melania Trump wore as she travelled to a detention camp for migrant children, but my intent isn’t to argue that she or her staff chose that jacket in order to send a coded message to the president’s far-right followers. It is, rather, to highlight some of the historical echoes of that phrase – ‘I don’t care’.

The echoes of which someone ought to have been aware, especially in an administration that includes – to put it mildly – several far-right sympathizers. And also to show that the attitude, the theatrical ‘not caring’, was an explicit character trait of Fascism.



Fascism lay its roots in the campaign for Italy’s late entry in the First World War, of which Mussolini was one of the leaders. It was at this time that the phrase ‘me ne frego’ – which at the time was still considered quite vulgar, along the lines of the English ‘I don’t give a fu ck’ – was sung by members of the special force known as arditi (literally: ‘the daring ones’) who volunteered for the front, to signify that they didn’t care if they should lose their lives.

The arditi were disbanded after the war, but many of them volunteered in 1919 for an expedition led by the poet Gabriele D’Annunzio to capture the city of Fiume (Rijeka, in present-day Croatia) and claim it for Italy during the vacuum created by the dissolution of the Austro-Hungarian empire. At the time of this occupation, former arditi also formed the backbone of the original Black Squads during the terror campaigns that began in 1919 and culminated with the ‘March on Rome’ of 1922, which completed Fascism’s swift rise to power.

This lapel pin worn by an original member of the Black Shirts was recently sold on a website devoted to military memorabilia. It is emblazoned with the words ‘Me ne frego’ underneath the original symbol of the arditi and the acronym FERT (which stands for the motto of the Royal Family). The seller calls it ‘bellissimo’.
[see image of “me ne frego” pin worn by the Black Shirts]

‘Me ne frego’ was the title of one of the most famous songs of the Fascist era.Its original version, dating around 1920, hails D’Annunzio and Mussolini as the fathers of the fascist movement, recycling the old war song of the arditi as the third stanza.

Me ne frego I don’t care

me ne frego I don’t care

me ne frego è il nostro motto, I don’t care is our motto

me ne frego di morire I don’t care if I should die

per la santa libertà! … For our sacred freedom! …

Later versions removed mentions of D’Annunzio, who faded fairly quickly into the background. In the meantime, Mussolini made the slogan his own, and explicitly elevated it to the philosophy of the regime.
[See image of Benito Mussolini “me ne frego” quote]

The meaning of ‘Me ne frego’

The proud Black-Shirt motto ‘I don’t care’ written on the bandages that cover a wound isn’t just an act of stoic philosophy or the summary of a political doctrine. It’s an education to fighting, and the acceptance of the risks it implies. It’s a new Italian lifestyle. This is how the Fascist welcomes and loves life, while rejecting and regarding suicide as an act of cowardice; this is how the Fascist understands life as duty, exaltation, conquest. A life that must be lived highly and fully, both for oneself but especially for others, near and far, present and future.

The connotations of altruism at the end of the quote are in direct contrast with the meaning taken on by the word menefreghismo(literally, ‘Idontcareism’), which ever since the regime has meant in common parlance a kind of detached self-reliance, or moral autocracy. Just as Italy broke with its former allies and charted a stubborn path towards the ruin and devastation of the Second World War, so too the Fascist citizen was encouraged to reject the judgement of others and look straight ahead. It should be remembered in this regard that the regime treated ignorance and proclivity to violence as desirable qualities to be rewarded with positions of influence and power. This required a swift redrawing of the old social norms, and of the language used to signify the moral worth of individuals. ‘Me ne frego’ was the perfect slogan for the people in charge of overseeing such a program.

Four years ago, speaking at a First World War commemoration in the small town of Redipuglia, Pope Francis linked ‘me ne frego’ not only with the carnage of that conflict, but also with the horrors of Fascism, recognising its ideological and propaganda value for Mussolini’s project. This is the form in which the slogan has survived until the present day, as a linguistic signifier not of generic indifference, but of ideological nostalgia. And because the attempts in Italy and beyond to stem the spread of such signifiers have been comprehensively abandoned, we readily find those words appearing not just on seemingly ubiquitous Fascist-era memorabilia but also on posters, or this line of stickers that can be purchased for $.193 from Redbubble (motto ‘awesome products designed by independent artists’), where it was uploaded by user ‘fashdivision’.

The international neofascist movement is of course well aware of this lineage. By way of example, if you search for it online you’ll find a long-running English-language podcast called Me ne frego which recycles this imagery in support of arguments against immigration and multiculturalism, or to opine on the subject of ‘the Jewish question’. I don’t doubt that people close both to the Trump administration and this world are similarly cognisant of the uses to which those three words have been put. But even for those who aren’t, claims to indifference have a history which we mustn’t allow ourselves to forget.

Credit: ground chuck



Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 28, 2018 - 03:16am PT
Il Duce, esimo.

Y arita?

El puto de chupa de verga de Putin est el pinchoto y grossero malo del todo mundo.

rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Jun 28, 2018 - 06:28am PT
Wpuld Michael Cohen be a good supreme court justice...?
Norton

climber
The Wastelands
Jun 28, 2018 - 09:29am PT

Steve Schmidt, Another Republican joins the Democratic Party


*This Independent voter will be aligned with the only party left in America that stands for what is right and decent and remains fidelitous to our Republic, objective truth, the rule of law and our Allies. That party is the Democratic Party.

12:41 AM - Jun 20, 2018

 Steve Schmidt ran John McCain's Presidential campaign
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Jun 28, 2018 - 09:50am PT
The supreme court , the newest legislative branch of the republican party and corporate America , has ruled that paying union dues is unconstitutional...thank god the republicans are looking out for middle class america...how bout another tax break for the 1%...?

Yes, forcing public employees to subsidize union speech is unconstitutional, and the recent decision will stop that abusive practice.
And yes, unless you don't think that middle class people pay taxes, this will also have the benefit of slowing down the fleecing of middle class taxpayers by public workers' unions.

The unions basically ruined US manufacturing and are well on their way to bankrupting many states and municipalities.
It's about time we got a Supreme Court that can rein in some of the most egregious abuses.
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