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Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Jun 14, 2018 - 05:04pm PT
Obama got crucified if he wore his lapel pin flag crooked.
Splater

climber
Grey Matter
Jun 14, 2018 - 05:13pm PT
madhatter wrote: ..."
that BOTH parties (including the one that corporate shill, Hillary represented) are in bed with mega-corps and wealthy donors."

Sorry mr mad,
but one party is MANY times as crooked.
One party has done tax cuts for the rich numerous times. ( bush jr + trumpkins)
One party is cutting the CFPB.
One party is eliminating net neutrality.
One party supports citizens united (legal bribing of politicians).
One party confessed that it "owed its donors a tax cut" 2017 quote.
One party loves monopolistic corporate mergers.
One party does not believe in representative democracy.
One party has a leader who is a lifelong shyster con man mafia crook.

The other party: In 2013, Obama allowed previous tax cuts for the wealthy to expire. In doing so, he allowed the top income tax rate to rise from 35 percent to 39.6 percent. Taxes on dividends and capital gains also rose from 15% to 20% on the rich. And a tax on investment income, included in the Affordable Care Act, took effect that year. Americans earning less than $250,000 were unaffected.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Jun 14, 2018 - 05:41pm PT
Waiting for the wall of text to defend his selfishness,seeing how greed is now a perjorative.
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Jun 14, 2018 - 06:37pm PT
Splatter, I agree with your post 99% except the part about the Bush tax cuts.
Good post!

I believe Obama actually extended them for two reasons. One was that the economy was on life support and Obama was worried about negating the stimulus with new taxes.

Second- I'm convinced he horse traded extension of the Bush tax cuts for the Republicans letting Obamacare out of committee to a full vote.

Susan Collins shifted her vote.
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Jun 14, 2018 - 06:57pm PT


Look at Kim's expression.

Even he knows trump is an idiot.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Jun 14, 2018 - 09:03pm PT
I perhaps offended MB1, by asserting that the Republican Tax Cut was done for the benefit of their rich & corporate donors, & for the benefit of the greedy.

I’ve always thought of MB1 as an Ayn Rand character similar to Howard Roark, although quite a bit longer on prose, & shorter on integrity.

Here’s a bit of a longish Atlantic Magazine article, that traces the popularization of greed to the 1700’s, but gives credit to author Ayn Rand for the current popularity of greed among conservatives.

Accordingly, in recent decades, a new line of argument has opened in the moral defense of greed, a change that was augured and embodied above all others by Ayn Rand. Rand understood that, when someone defended greed by an appeal to the common good, he was also conceding that greed could be checked by it. As the moral foundation for free markets, such an argument was entirely unacceptable to Rand, who took aim at it in her 1965 essay What is Capitalism?

“Implicitly, uncritically, and by default, political economy accepted as its axioms the fundamental tenets of collectivism,” she declared in a sweeping indictment of the Invisible Hand tradition. “The moral justification of capitalism does not lie in the altruist claim that it represents the best way to achieve ‘the common good.’” That may be so, but it is “merely a secondary consequence.” Instead, capitalism is the only economic system in which “the exceptional men” are not “held down by the majority” and in which (as she said elsewhere) the “only good” that humans can do to one another and “the only statement of their proper relationship” are both acknowledged: “Hands off!”

A woman who titled a collection of essays The Virtue of Selfishness, Rand was given to brackish candor. Yet at a time when many people think that the common good is more often imperiled than empowered by unbridled greed, she provides an alternative defense of the acquisitive instinct by appealing to an ethics of gross achievement and a formulation of personal liberty that looks with suspicion and disdain on any talk of civic duty, moral obligation, or even prudential restraint. Her aim was simple: To relieve greed, once and for all, of any moral taint.

“I think greed is healthy,” an apparent acolyte told the graduating class at Berkeley’s business school in 1986. “You can be greedy and still feel good about yourself.” The speaker was Ivan Boesky, who shortly thereafter would be fined $100 million, and later go to prison, for insider trading. His address was adapted by Oliver Stone as the basis for Gordon Gekko’s “greed is good” speech in Wall Street. An exhortation to shareholders of a sagging company, it reads like a corporate raider’s war cry, with Gekko the grinning avatar of Agency Theory.


https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/04/greed-is-good-a-300-year-history-of-a-dangerous-idea/360265/
Dingus Milktoast

Trad climber
Minister of Moderation, Fatcrackistan
Jun 14, 2018 - 10:25pm PT
Tying up a loose I told you so end, the Inspector General agrees with my assessment of Comey - incompetent bumbler. He drug the FBI (not that I feel sorry for them) into the political fray and sullied the their reputation.

To his credit he was not playing political favorites, according to the report.

But the report confirms his incompetence.

Good evening.

DMT
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 14, 2018 - 10:29pm PT
Chairman Kim Jong-Un, in the photo above, looks like he's suddenly thinking that Trump will take command of his army, and depose him with wild dogs and an anti-aircraft gun.


Trump is a buffoon, and probably got nothing from his meeting with Kim Jong-Un, but at least he went there, shook hands, talked to him, and showed him his iPad and his favorite MTV video.

It was a start.
Splater

climber
Grey Matter
Jun 14, 2018 - 11:29pm PT
these links say that
1) In Dec 2010 Obama temporarily extended the Bush tax cuts for 2 more years - 2011 and 2012.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-signs-bill-to-extend-bush-tax-cuts/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_tax_cuts

2) Jan 2013 Obama mostly ends the Bush tax cuts for the rich, keeping some for the less wealthy.

For individuals with taxable income of $400,000 per year or less ($450,000 for a married couple on a joint tax return, both thresholds to be indexed for inflation after 2013), the tax rates for income, capital gains, and dividends remained at their 2012 levels, instead of reverting to the higher rates from the expiration of the Bush tax cuts.

For individuals with taxable income over the $400,000/$450,000 thresholds:
The top marginal tax rate on income of 39.6%, provided for under the expiration of the 2001 portion of the Bush tax cuts, was retained. This was an increase from the 2003–2012 rate of 35%.
The top marginal tax rate on long-term capital gains of 20%, provided for under the expiration of the 2003 portion of the Bush tax cuts, was retained. This was an increase from the 2003–2012 rate of 15%.

The top marginal tax rate on dividends, which would have increased to the ordinary income rate of 39.6% due to the expiration of the 2003 portion of the Bush tax cuts, was set to the capital-gains rate of 20%. This was an increase from the 2003–2012 rate of 15%.

A phase-out of tax deductions and credits for incomes over $250,000 for individuals and $300,000 for couples was reinstated. These limits on deductions had existed before the Bush tax cuts, and had disappeared in 2010.
Estate taxes were set at 40% of the value above $5,000,000, indexed for inflation, an increase from the 2012 rate of 35% of the value over $5,120,000.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Taxpayer_Relief_Act_of_2012

3) Also effective starting Jan 2103 were 2 new taxes on the wealthy to support the ACA:
--- An incremental 0.9% Medicare tax on wages above $250,000 (married filing joint) and $200,000 (single).
--- "unearned income" tax. Married couples filing jointly with modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) above $250,000 are subject to this new tax. For single individuals this tax kicks in for MAGI above $200,000. A married couple will pay the lower of 3.8% of:
a) excess MAGI above $250k or b) unearned income.

https://www.thestreet.com/story/11709964/1/2-obamacare-taxes-hitting-high-income-earners.html

 splater means "splat later" which is nearly the opposite of splatter
HoMan

Trad climber
Wasteville,CA
Jun 14, 2018 - 11:42pm PT
Power Bottom and Wade Icey are the new hawt couple.

The stench is palpable.

Power on!
ground chuck

Ice climber
Olympia
Jun 15, 2018 - 02:03am PT
and i thought rump was weird>


"North Korean leader Kim Jong Un reportedly brought his own toilet to Singapore for his summit with President Trump.

The portable toilet was among a number of items that Kim packed for the historic meeting as part of a tightly planned visit, according to The Chosunilbo, one of South Korea's largest circulated newspapers.


The newspaper noted that North Korea dispatched an IL-76 transport plane that carried things such as food and a bullet-proof limousine, as well as a "portable toilet that will deny determined sewer divers insights into to the supreme leader's stools."
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 15, 2018 - 02:25am PT
Kim and Trump appear to share an interest in excretory fetishism.

tooth

Trad climber
B.C.
Jun 15, 2018 - 05:41am PT
“So the big fat dummy insults Canada’s Prime Minister and Canadians, and says it’s an “honour” to meet the murderous dictator?”
Power Crux

Social climber
Pulled over on Park Blvd, dumping the black water
Jun 15, 2018 - 05:58am PT
Tying up a loose I told you so end, the Inspector General agrees with my assessment of Comey - incompetent bumbler. He drug the FBI (not that I feel sorry for them) into the political fray and sullied the their reputation.

To his credit he was not playing political favorites, according to the report.

But the report confirms his incompetence.

Through the eyes of a partisan.
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Jun 15, 2018 - 05:59am PT
Trump sickens me so much, I'm tempted to launch hyperbolic falsehoods about about him. I mean the kind of falsehoods that are so vile no one could support him. Maybe you could help me with some ideas. I'm thinking I will start with "he has sex with pornstars" and "has babies ripped from the arms of their mothers".
xCon

Social climber
909
Jun 15, 2018 - 06:44am PT
of course they can still support him!

hows my uncle put it...

"were back to keeping the niqqer down!"


back to letting companies do what they want cuz of freedom!

f*#k you workers and your rights
f*#k you neighbors and downstream and your whines about air and water
f*#k you customers and your want of getting what you paid for

and f*#k you women!
lets not forget that!!!

the way I got it figured is
they know it takes a real son of a bitch to do what they want done so when its happening their willing to give a lot of allowance...





Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Jun 15, 2018 - 08:38am PT
Say what you want about The Donald, he's a very smart and stable guy.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/the-disastrous-legal-implications-of-the-trump-foundations-activities/562895/
There was nothing subtle about any of this. The campaign took full credit for the veterans fundraising program even after the Iowa caucuses. The candidate understood, as did the press, that this entire Iowa fundraising enterprise, which Trump launched in place of his participation at a campaign debate, was a campaign project. And Trump accounted for it in just those terms. The campaign at one point posted on its website a chart identifying the recipient of the charitable grants and “uploaded a news report under the headline, Lewandowski: Trump Campaign Gave between $5.5–$6 Million to Veterans Groups.”

Campaign-finance laws prohibit corporate contributions and expenditures, other than truly independent expenditures made without candidate involvement, to influence a federal election. The facts of the Iowa veterans fundraising program leave no doubt about this purpose. It's hard to imagine more of a slam-dunk violation.

Most ominous for Trump is the attorney general’s conclusion that "Mr. Trump’s wrongful use of the Foundation to benefit his Campaign was willful and knowing.” It is ironic, and highly damaging to Trump, that he made an issue in his campaign about the federal prohibition on tax-exempt involvement in campaigns. He committed that he would act, if elected, to repeal it. It appears that he and his campaign neglected to await repeal and simply declined to comply with it. In any event, his stated awareness of the law, together with his repeated execution of tax forms for the Foundation “in which he attested that the Foundation … did not carry out political activity,” puts him at severe risk of “willful and knowing” liability. As “foundation managers” under the law, Trump and his children are exposed to personal liability if they gave knowing and willful consent to the charity’s illegal expenditures. They could face similar consequences—that is, personal liability—in the event, however unlikely, that the FEC takes meaningful enforcement action.

There is no mention in the complaint about the involvement of any lawyer in any phase of this venture. It's not surprising: No counsel would have advised the Trump campaign and the charity that these Iowa fundraising events and the rallies were lawful. What emerges from the New York complaint’s account is something that has become increasingly familiar. Trump does what he wishes, acting all too often on impulse and without regard to rules or norms, and those around him are expected to do as he says. The result in this instance was, from a legal perspective, disastrous. And that is putting the matter charitably.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/14/nyregion/trump-foundation-lawsuit-attorney-general.html

The New York State attorney general’s office filed a scathingly worded lawsuit on Thursday taking aim at the Donald J. Trump Foundation, accusing the charity and the Trump family of sweeping violations of campaign finance laws, self-dealing and illegal coordination with the presidential campaign.

The lawsuit, which seeks to dissolve the foundation and bar President Trump and three of his children from serving on nonprofit organizations, was an extraordinary rebuke of a sitting president. The attorney general also sent referral letters to the Internal Revenue Service and the Federal Election Commission for possible further action, adding to Mr. Trump’s extensive legal challenges.

The lawsuit, filed in State Supreme Court in Manhattan, culminated a nearly two-year investigation of Mr. Trump’s charity, which became a subject of scrutiny during and after the 2016 presidential campaign. While such foundations are supposed to be devoted to charitable activities, the petition asserts that Mr. Trump’s was often improperly used to settle legal claims against his various businesses, even spending $10,000 on a portrait of Mr. Trump that was hung at one of his golf clubs...

In 2012, a man named Martin B. Greenberg sued the Trump National Golf Club after he made a hole in one at a fund-raising golf tournament that had promised to pay $1 million to golfers who aced the 13th hole, as he did. As part of a settlement, the charitable foundation paid $158,000 to a foundation run by Mr. Greenberg.

Trump is a class act all the way through.
http://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/donald-trump-stiffed-winner-1m-hole-one-contest-report-says


A hole-in-one from 2010 could turn into a headache for Donald Trump in 2016.

According to The Washington Post’s David Fahrenthold, the Republican presidential nominee refused to pay the winner of a hole-in-one contest at a charity golf tournament held at one of his courses and later used money from his charitable foundation to settle the resulting lawsuit, actions that might have violated laws against "self-dealing."

In August of 2010, Martin Greenberg, CEO of Sterling Commodities Corp., hit a hole-in-one on the 13th hole at Trump National Golf Club in Westchester County, N.Y., winning a $1 million prize. Or so he thought.

The contest's rules stipulated that the shot had to travel at least 150 yards, and according to The Post, tournament organizers had set up the tee short of the mark.

Greenberg sued, and when the parties settled, the Trump Foundation donated $158,000 to the Martin Greenberg Foundation, which Rosemary Fei, an expert in nonprofit law, says is illegal.

"Yes, Trump pledged as part of the settlement to make a payment to a charity, and yes, the foundation is writing a check to a charity," Fei told The Post. "But the obligation was Trump's. And you can't have a charitable foundation paying off Trump's personal obligations. That would be classic self-dealing."

When reached for comment, Jason Miller, a senior spokesperson for the Trump campaign, issued a statement to GOLF.com denying The Post's allegations and attacking the paper, its reporter and Hillary Clinton.

"In typical Washington Post fashion, they’ve gotten their facts wrong," Miller said. "There was not, and could not be, any intent or motive for the Trump Foundation to make improper payments. All contributions are reported to the IRS, and all Foundation donations are publicly disclosed … The Post's reporting is peppered with inaccuracies and omissions from a biased reporter who is clearly intent on distracting attention away from the corrupt Clinton Foundation, a vehicle for the Clintons to peddle influence at the expense of the American people."
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 15, 2018 - 10:47am PT
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Even Trump's "charitable" work comprises grift, chicanery, theft and fraud.

Trump is such a reprehensible sociopath, he mixes a gentleman's game of honor with a charitable fund-raising event to set the stage for a carnival conman's game that is unwinnable.


Notice that the Trump spokesman "Jason Miller" is a new incarnation of "John Miller" and "John Baron". Even Trump's defenders are embarrassed to be associated with him.
Norton

climber
The Wastelands
Jun 15, 2018 - 11:03am PT

pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia

Everyday norton??

Don't you have a better way to start your day?

Ha ha, oh now buttercup, I am just getting warmed up!

the 4th grader you put in the WH has 2 1/2 more years to go, deal with it
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 15, 2018 - 11:59am PT
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Trump's fictitious press agent character is now being performed by one of his flunkies.

Andy Kaufman's "Tony Clifton" character was often performed by his friend Bob Zmuda, including when Kaufman was in the audience.



We should watch very closely for a non-speaking, slightly different-looking Trump. It will be an impersonator that Trump has hired. Dictators often use body-doubles in public.



Trump will probably try to use a body-double to serve his prison time. Trump doesn't know the IRS, but he will go down fast and hard, crying all the way

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/14/business/trump-foundation-irs-attorney-general.html



In 2007, Vincent Fumo, then a powerful Democratic state senator in Pennsylvania, was indicted by the Justice Department for misusing a charity run by a former member of his government staff. A federal jury convicted him. Mr. Fumo’s punishment: four years in prison.


Ms. Underwood’s petition noted that Mr. Trump signed the foundation’s tax returns, in which he stated, under penalties of perjury, “that the foundation did not engage in transactions with interested parties, and that the foundation did not carry out political activity.”


Marcus Owens, who ran the I.R.S. division that oversees nonprofits during the administrations of Presidents George Bush and Bill Clinton, said there have been several cases where people were criminally prosecuted for filing false tax returns of charities they controlled. The difference in Mr. Trump’s case, he said, is that those cases were “less egregious."



Indifference to the law is no excuse.
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