Trump has entered the Querencia Phase of his presidency


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Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 14, 2018 - 12:10pm PT
For anyone who still believes the Mueller investigation is a "baseless witch hunt", the New York Attorney General's lawsuit today comes after a 20-month investigation. The investigation into the Trump family's sham charity was conducted quietly, without releasing information to the public. Trump never claimed it was a partisan witch hunt because it was off his radar. Trump will now pound the table, and shriek that it's a witch hunt.

Trump has no legal precedent for claiming immunity from the New York civil lawsuit. In fact, the Supreme Court ruled that Bill Clinton had no such immunity in a civil case arising from his pre-presidential actions. Trump's fraudulent charity operated for about a decade, well before he became president.

How do you like Trump?

Well done.

Trump's lawyers may claim that the lawsuit is so complex and time-consuming, that the President should be excused from it, in the interest of being able to do his job. In effect, that would mean that the bigger your crime, the more relief from prosecution you deserve. Another way to put it is that Trump's lawyers will probably argue that he is too big to fail.

Trumpty-Dumpty called for a wall.
Trumpty-Dumpty had a great fall.
All of his lieyers and all of his lies
Couldn't make Trumpty immunized.

Will the IRS release Trump's tax returns to prosecutors? Will they make them public, as part of their public prosecution for tax fraud? His Three Stooges children have also been named in the complaint. If Ivanka and Jared filed joint returns, his financial details will become public, too.

Very soon, Trump will be on Twitter and TV, writhing and churning like a lunatic in a straitjacket.

He will be bewailing and bemoaning about how unfair it is, for his children to be dragged into the Witch Hunt. The same argument, applied to John Gotti Jr. and Bill Bonnano, would not stand for a second. Why should Trump's criminal children be given a pass, when the sons of mafia mob bosses were not?

And don't forget Trump's famous "Red Line" for Mueller to not cross: investigating his personal finances.

Trump will suffer a synapse collapse on a grand scale. His mind will lock up, and his words and actions will be controlled by low-level neurons in the brain stem.

Synapse Collapse = climbing related
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Jun 14, 2018 - 12:40pm PT
so Jeff "Keebler Elf" Sessions is quoting scriptures to justify breaking families up

Romans 13 New International Version (NIV)
Submission to Governing Authorities
13 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.

Will be interesting to see how Trump and family follow this wisdom

Boulder climber
Jun 14, 2018 - 01:49pm PT
Credit: Contractor
FYI- Cannabis helps with nausea

Ice climber
Jun 14, 2018 - 02:36pm PT
I'm all for supporting one another in a family but are those two men (? aliens - probably illegal) even from Earth

The woman is actually kind of cute. Could she be a transmogrified witch?

Now Mueller will have folks he can have informed conversations with re: The Big D and his tax returns which he has had to keep hush hush about for all this time.

Has the "odd it" just started or is it now all over but the whining?

The Justice Department's internal watchdog found that former FBI Director James Comey's actions in the Hillary Clinton email investigation were "extraordinary and insubordinate" and flouted the department's norms but that Comey was not motivated by political bias.

The symptoms of amphetamine psychosis include auditory and visual hallucinations, grandiosity, delusions of persecution, and delusions of reference concurrent with both clear consciousness and prominent extreme agitation.
Bruce Morris

Trad climber
Soulsbyville, California
Jun 14, 2018 - 03:30pm PT
Dirtbag: Sort of like Franklin Roosevelt shaking hands with one of Francisco Franco's generals during the Spanish Civil War? Rather unlikely during the New Deal, don't you think? Just think how far the present administration has moved away from the Four Freedoms. It's like the Fascists destroyed the Allies, won WWII, and took over the USA.

Social climber
Jun 14, 2018 - 04:02pm PT
not much talk about who financed german stiching itself back together after ww1 and what they got out of it...

You Won't Believe What They Did

The Wastelands
Jun 14, 2018 - 04:44pm PT
our US President salutes a North Korean military guy

can you imagine how F ing enraged the political right would be if Obama had done that?

why that would be "appeasement" or an "apology tour", so "unAmerican"

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Missing photo ID#532020

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Jun 14, 2018 - 05:02pm PT
Norton: Per NBC "fake" news tonight, the North Korean "true" news is really enjoying that Trumpian salute.

I think there are two good chances that Trump will get North Korea to hand over their Nuclear program.

Slim & None.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Jun 14, 2018 - 05:04pm PT
Obama got crucified if he wore his lapel pin flag crooked.

Grey Matter
Jun 14, 2018 - 05:13pm PT
madhatter wrote: ..."
that BOTH parties (including the one that corporate shill, Hillary represented) are in bed with mega-corps and wealthy donors."

Sorry mr mad,
but one party is MANY times as crooked.
One party has done tax cuts for the rich numerous times. ( bush jr + trumpkins)
One party is cutting the CFPB.
One party is eliminating net neutrality.
One party supports citizens united (legal bribing of politicians).
One party confessed that it "owed its donors a tax cut" 2017 quote.
One party loves monopolistic corporate mergers.
One party does not believe in representative democracy.
One party has a leader who is a lifelong shyster con man mafia crook.

The other party: In 2013, Obama allowed previous tax cuts for the wealthy to expire. In doing so, he allowed the top income tax rate to rise from 35 percent to 39.6 percent. Taxes on dividends and capital gains also rose from 15% to 20% on the rich. And a tax on investment income, included in the Affordable Care Act, took effect that year. Americans earning less than $250,000 were unaffected.

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Jun 14, 2018 - 05:41pm PT
Waiting for the wall of text to defend his selfishness,seeing how greed is now a perjorative.

Boulder climber
Jun 14, 2018 - 06:37pm PT
Splatter, I agree with your post 99% except the part about the Bush tax cuts.
Good post!

I believe Obama actually extended them for two reasons. One was that the economy was on life support and Obama was worried about negating the stimulus with new taxes.

Second- I'm convinced he horse traded extension of the Bush tax cuts for the Republicans letting Obamacare out of committee to a full vote.

Susan Collins shifted her vote.

Ice climber
great white north
Jun 14, 2018 - 06:57pm PT

Look at Kim's expression.

Even he knows trump is an idiot.

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Jun 14, 2018 - 09:03pm PT
I perhaps offended MB1, by asserting that the Republican Tax Cut was done for the benefit of their rich & corporate donors, & for the benefit of the greedy.

I’ve always thought of MB1 as an Ayn Rand character similar to Howard Roark, although quite a bit longer on prose, & shorter on integrity.

Here’s a bit of a longish Atlantic Magazine article, that traces the popularization of greed to the 1700’s, but gives credit to author Ayn Rand for the current popularity of greed among conservatives.

Accordingly, in recent decades, a new line of argument has opened in the moral defense of greed, a change that was augured and embodied above all others by Ayn Rand. Rand understood that, when someone defended greed by an appeal to the common good, he was also conceding that greed could be checked by it. As the moral foundation for free markets, such an argument was entirely unacceptable to Rand, who took aim at it in her 1965 essay What is Capitalism?

“Implicitly, uncritically, and by default, political economy accepted as its axioms the fundamental tenets of collectivism,” she declared in a sweeping indictment of the Invisible Hand tradition. “The moral justification of capitalism does not lie in the altruist claim that it represents the best way to achieve ‘the common good.’” That may be so, but it is “merely a secondary consequence.” Instead, capitalism is the only economic system in which “the exceptional men” are not “held down by the majority” and in which (as she said elsewhere) the “only good” that humans can do to one another and “the only statement of their proper relationship” are both acknowledged: “Hands off!”

A woman who titled a collection of essays The Virtue of Selfishness, Rand was given to brackish candor. Yet at a time when many people think that the common good is more often imperiled than empowered by unbridled greed, she provides an alternative defense of the acquisitive instinct by appealing to an ethics of gross achievement and a formulation of personal liberty that looks with suspicion and disdain on any talk of civic duty, moral obligation, or even prudential restraint. Her aim was simple: To relieve greed, once and for all, of any moral taint.

“I think greed is healthy,” an apparent acolyte told the graduating class at Berkeley’s business school in 1986. “You can be greedy and still feel good about yourself.” The speaker was Ivan Boesky, who shortly thereafter would be fined $100 million, and later go to prison, for insider trading. His address was adapted by Oliver Stone as the basis for Gordon Gekko’s “greed is good” speech in Wall Street. An exhortation to shareholders of a sagging company, it reads like a corporate raider’s war cry, with Gekko the grinning avatar of Agency Theory.
Dingus Milktoast

Trad climber
Minister of Moderation, Fatcrackistan
Jun 14, 2018 - 10:25pm PT
Tying up a loose I told you so end, the Inspector General agrees with my assessment of Comey - incompetent bumbler. He drug the FBI (not that I feel sorry for them) into the political fray and sullied the their reputation.

To his credit he was not playing political favorites, according to the report.

But the report confirms his incompetence.

Good evening.


Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 14, 2018 - 10:29pm PT
Chairman Kim Jong-Un, in the photo above, looks like he's suddenly thinking that Trump will take command of his army, and depose him with wild dogs and an anti-aircraft gun.

Trump is a buffoon, and probably got nothing from his meeting with Kim Jong-Un, but at least he went there, shook hands, talked to him, and showed him his iPad and his favorite MTV video.

It was a start.

Grey Matter
Jun 14, 2018 - 11:29pm PT
these links say that
1) In Dec 2010 Obama temporarily extended the Bush tax cuts for 2 more years - 2011 and 2012.

2) Jan 2013 Obama mostly ends the Bush tax cuts for the rich, keeping some for the less wealthy.

For individuals with taxable income of $400,000 per year or less ($450,000 for a married couple on a joint tax return, both thresholds to be indexed for inflation after 2013), the tax rates for income, capital gains, and dividends remained at their 2012 levels, instead of reverting to the higher rates from the expiration of the Bush tax cuts.

For individuals with taxable income over the $400,000/$450,000 thresholds:
The top marginal tax rate on income of 39.6%, provided for under the expiration of the 2001 portion of the Bush tax cuts, was retained. This was an increase from the 2003–2012 rate of 35%.
The top marginal tax rate on long-term capital gains of 20%, provided for under the expiration of the 2003 portion of the Bush tax cuts, was retained. This was an increase from the 2003–2012 rate of 15%.

The top marginal tax rate on dividends, which would have increased to the ordinary income rate of 39.6% due to the expiration of the 2003 portion of the Bush tax cuts, was set to the capital-gains rate of 20%. This was an increase from the 2003–2012 rate of 15%.

A phase-out of tax deductions and credits for incomes over $250,000 for individuals and $300,000 for couples was reinstated. These limits on deductions had existed before the Bush tax cuts, and had disappeared in 2010.
Estate taxes were set at 40% of the value above $5,000,000, indexed for inflation, an increase from the 2012 rate of 35% of the value over $5,120,000.

3) Also effective starting Jan 2103 were 2 new taxes on the wealthy to support the ACA:
--- An incremental 0.9% Medicare tax on wages above $250,000 (married filing joint) and $200,000 (single).
--- "unearned income" tax. Married couples filing jointly with modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) above $250,000 are subject to this new tax. For single individuals this tax kicks in for MAGI above $200,000. A married couple will pay the lower of 3.8% of:
a) excess MAGI above $250k or b) unearned income.

 splater means "splat later" which is nearly the opposite of splatter

Trad climber
Jun 14, 2018 - 11:42pm PT
Power Bottom and Wade Icey are the new hawt couple.

The stench is palpable.

Power on!
ground chuck

Ice climber
Jun 15, 2018 - 02:03am PT
and i thought rump was weird>

"North Korean leader Kim Jong Un reportedly brought his own toilet to Singapore for his summit with President Trump.

The portable toilet was among a number of items that Kim packed for the historic meeting as part of a tightly planned visit, according to The Chosunilbo, one of South Korea's largest circulated newspapers.

The newspaper noted that North Korea dispatched an IL-76 transport plane that carried things such as food and a bullet-proof limousine, as well as a "portable toilet that will deny determined sewer divers insights into to the supreme leader's stools."

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 15, 2018 - 02:25am PT
Kim and Trump appear to share an interest in excretory fetishism.

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