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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Got the full story. Original owner was sponsored and got upgrades for free. $13,000 new, with $23,000 of aftermarket parts. It's essentially made of aftermarket parts except the frame and top end.
Good Lord man! Have fun but don't die...
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2018 - 01:20pm PT
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Limiting lead emissions with-in the state is hardly dumb. Particularly in light of the fact that we are talking about a toy. i suppose it will cut into the 'fun' for those whos kicks depend on knowing their poisoning other people
lead is one serious toxin
I'm with you both there, the quote about it being dumb was the seller's. It was funny that he got mad that CA was trying to take away his ability to burn lead. I'll be changing out the necessary parts to make it run on pump gas ASAP. In the meantime, there is a gas station no too far away that sells 100 octane, but it's $9 per gallon :/
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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$9/gal? Pfffft! That’s the price of regular in Norway! My 3000 mile drive there this summer
is gonna hurt me at the pump! Luckily I won’t be in the Raptor. 🤡
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Does it require actual leaded gasoline (i.e. to prevent shredding non-hardened exhaust valve seats of 30 years ago) or is it just the octane it requires for the insane boost?
You can certainly buy/blend high octane unleaded racing fuel in sealed 5-gallon (or larger) barrels. It's dreadfully expensive but much more stable than regular gasoline and lead-free. I've had open containers for a year or more with no noticeable degradation. Perhaps they were just recommending avgas because it was cheaper...
Tetra-ethyl is dreadful stuff. My grandfather was one of the marketing guys for the chemical companies trying to put a positive spin on it. They knew it was terrible poison then too.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2018 - 04:43pm PT
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I think it's just the octane and doesn't actually need the lead in the modern 2-stroke engine. I'm no expert, but I know that a lot of people with similar setups use high octane lead-free gas. Also, all you have to do is change a pressure releasing valve to run it on pump gas like it did when it was new which indicates that the lead isn't necessary.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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pingcrab.. .All you have to do is change the pressure relief valve to run it on pump gas...? 60 posts later we find this out...LMAO...Have fun and don't get jacked up on that thing...
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2018 - 10:53am PT
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Wait a second, I thought you guys said a modified sled with a turbo and a bunch of aftermarket parts was going to be simple and reliable!? Why did the clutch break off in the middle of nowhere when the boost kicked in!?
All of you owe me some money
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2018 - 12:03pm PT
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Thankfully I wasn't solo for once and my friends' big four stroke towed me out just fine so the only cost was a few hours.
The timing was good too as we were on the road heading out. If it had happened in a few of the places we went yesterday it'd still be sitting there.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Mar 20, 2018 - 09:14am PT
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You said that rig has a bunch of aftermarket stuff. How much was in the drivetrain? I ask because it is fairly common that people put extra power in the engine and leave the rest of the drivetrain stock and then stuff breaks.
Looks like a fun ride. Happy trails.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 20, 2018 - 04:50pm PT
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I was told that the top end of the engine and the frame are the only original parts of the sled. The clutch and the secondary were aftermarket.
Don't worry xCon, the part to transition it to pump gas is on the way. In the meantime I live in the central valley so my lungs are super tough :)
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Mar 20, 2018 - 04:53pm PT
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I live in the central valley so my lungs are super tough :)
hahahaha
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Mar 20, 2018 - 08:25pm PT
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Some years back folks used to soak they weed in it as a sort of poor man's Paraquat
It didn't matter much.
They all mostly fe dead now.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Mar 20, 2018 - 09:03pm PT
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Zbrown has caught the virus...
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Mar 21, 2018 - 10:54am PT
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You got off easy... at full boost that thing will shred much more than a clutch!
The weakest link saved you.
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