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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Nov 16, 2017 - 09:24pm PT
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The Bakersfield Gazzette says Manson needs a heart transplant...
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Avery
climber
New Zealand
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Nov 16, 2017 - 09:25pm PT
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I'm sure Manson and his minions were responsible for the death of acress Sharon Tate.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Nov 16, 2017 - 09:28pm PT
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All I know is, he made some really good music over the last 50 years.
Many people know his songs from the movies Footloose, Caddyshack and Top Gun.
His name is not Charles Manson.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Nov 17, 2017 - 06:49am PT
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Gary
Is the bus in DV?
GUy, I used Death Valley to loosely! It's not far from Barker Ranch, closer to Ballarat.
Last spring we hiked up Pahrump Point. We passed what sure looked like an unmarked grave. My first thought was Manson. Our friend Tina thought it was a bit too far from Goler Wash.
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klaus
Big Wall climber
Florence & Normandy
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Nov 17, 2017 - 07:13am PT
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So if I tell you to kill someone and you go ahead and do it does that make me the murderer?
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TimH
Trad climber
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Nov 17, 2017 - 07:16am PT
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This thread is starting to sound a bit like the old Saturday Night Live routine of "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead". Ironically, Franco died Nov 20 of 1975, so maybe Manson's trying to hold on until Monday.
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Alan Rubin
climber
Amherst,MA.
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Nov 17, 2017 - 08:44am PT
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Klaus, yes. in certain circumstances. However, as I posted earlier Manson did much more then merely tell his "Family" to kill people--a circumstance that saw him convicted of multiple capital murders!!!!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 17, 2017 - 08:49am PT
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Gawd, I sooo love the ST legal experts! Talk about jailhouse lawyers!
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Nov 17, 2017 - 09:55am PT
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So when the US sends troops into another nation for war. Are knot the casualties the response ability of us all?
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hooblie
climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
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Nov 17, 2017 - 10:10am PT
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dead yet?
he'll never be dead enough
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Nov 17, 2017 - 10:20am PT
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Hooble....didn’t your mother tell you that if you can’t say something nice about a person don’t say anything at all?
Charlie had a tough upbringing and his drug use certainly wasn’t helpful.
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hooblie
climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
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Nov 17, 2017 - 11:59am PT
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i think it can be demonstrated that "you WILL get all the bullshit you agree to put up with" and progressively that bull becomes yours to own.
and yup, that's what she said by golly
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Nov 17, 2017 - 03:49pm PT
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So if I tell you to kill someone and you go ahead and do it does that make me the murderer?
Basically yes. So long as the your actions can be construed as a conspiracy. That can be a gray area. Offering money is certainly conspiracy. Wishing out loud that someone was dead, probably not. Running a cult. brainwashing a group of young adults, and telling them to kill someone, slam dunk conspiracy
CA Penal code 182 in part provides:
182.
(a) If two or more persons conspire:
(1) To commit any crime. . . . . .
. . . When they conspire to commit any other felony, they shall be punishable in the same manner and to the same extent as is provided for the punishment of that felony.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=PEN§ionNum=182
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astray
Sport climber
where the heart was
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Nov 19, 2017 - 07:50am PT
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i'm a false blond
and far from a superhero
so i am artificially confused
by the association assigned between
me and Charles Manson.
i have never murdered anyone.
usually when i encounter a fellow warm being
i simply suggest via word and action that
they follow their eclectic quest.
and then i lean back and stare really far away
as the drool issues from each side of my mouth;
usually heavier on the left cause i tilt that way.
..dude's shite was way f*#ked. he brought harm.
and i will not shed a tear upon his demise.
he is kin with Donald Trump.
-yea, i'm weege
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hacky47
Trad climber
goldhill
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Nov 19, 2017 - 09:21am PT
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Harboring someone you know that committed murder, even if you did not witness said crime,
Like driving the " get away car " is enough to get you sent away.
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astray
Sport climber
where the heart was
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Nov 19, 2017 - 09:26am PT
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what?
i have not murdered anybody.
nor have i witnessed a murder.
i don't know anyone who's committed a murder.
i'm not going away.
hell, i'm permanently astray.
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Matt Sarad
climber
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Nov 19, 2017 - 10:12am PT
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It’s always rewarding to call Bakersfield home.
Charlie is resting comfortably about a half mile from where I sit.
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