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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Nov 15, 2017 - 07:04pm PT
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And Locker is still with us...
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Nov 15, 2017 - 07:10pm PT
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I saw Charles Manson trending & assumed the GOP had picked him to take over for Roy Moore in the race.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Nov 15, 2017 - 07:14pm PT
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In Charlie's memory, I'm enjoying a nice tall glass of ice water (because that's what people in Hell want)
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Nov 15, 2017 - 07:37pm PT
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I'm suprised he wasn't paroled...
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dirtbag
climber
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Nov 15, 2017 - 07:39pm PT
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Sayonara, f*#khead.
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Nov 15, 2017 - 07:43pm PT
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One crazy MOFO
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dirtbag
climber
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Nov 15, 2017 - 07:49pm PT
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I think the real answer is...who knows?
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Nov 15, 2017 - 07:51pm PT
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Did he actually kill someone?
Consensus is no. Just like Calley he ordered it done.
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c wilmot
climber
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Nov 15, 2017 - 07:53pm PT
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Qualis artifex pereo
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Nov 15, 2017 - 07:56pm PT
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My dad ran into the gang just below Barker Ranch a short time before he was caught. My dad was camping in his Jeep with his buddy when a group came down from Barker and said they had been watching my dad and his friend since they set up camp. My dads family knew the Barkers and my dad got a funny feeling something wasn’t quite right. The gang invited my dad and his friend to a party at the ranch that night, they politely accepted and as soon as the gang drove away they loaded up and split. It was a short time later that Barker Ranch was raided. I always think I may not exist if my pops did end up going to that party. Things could have turned out much different or my dad would have one hell of a story to tell.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Nov 15, 2017 - 07:58pm PT
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CHP KILLER PEYER
“The only way of really preventing something like that from really happening again…. from Peyer doing this…. is to keep Peyer locked up. "
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Nov 15, 2017 - 08:05pm PT
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I thought you were confused and talking about your boy Peyer, Jody.
BTW he's not getting out
My bad?
PEYER is worse than Manson, right?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 15, 2017 - 09:06pm PT
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RIH
(Roast In Hell)
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Nov 15, 2017 - 10:19pm PT
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RIH
(Roast In Hell)
Good riddance. One less cost to taxpayers.
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Inner City
Trad climber
Portland, OR
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Nov 15, 2017 - 11:36pm PT
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I guess a deep dive into Charles' brain is in order. With all the nutty stuff going on in the world, we need more information about psychopathic folks.
Evil person...
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LAhiker
Social climber
Los Angeles
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Nov 15, 2017 - 11:50pm PT
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News reports from the past hour says he's in grave condition but not dead yet. Do you have a link?
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Nov 16, 2017 - 05:04am PT
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So dance dance dance
Teach us to be true
Come dance dance dance
'Cause we love you
And the night comes again to the circle studded sky
The stars settle slowly, in loneliness they lie
'Till the universe explodes as a falling star is raised
Planets are paralyzed, mountains are amazed
But they all glow brighter from the brilliance of the blaze
With the speed of insanity, then he died.
--Phil Ochs/Crucifixion
I always thought the surname "Manson" was apt for such a monumentally gifted manipulator/scumbag.
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Alan Rubin
climber
Amherst,MA.
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Nov 16, 2017 - 06:21am PT
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Upthread someone (Walleye?) asked if Manson actually ever killed anyone himself. It has also been a long time since I read Helter-Skelter, and that surely isn't definitive, but my recollection is that he is described at one point of being the actual killer in at least one of the unconfirmed Manson "Family" murders. However legally that is not a significant distinction in his case. Not only did he direct others to do the killings (and provided the weapons)--which in itself is legally sufficient for guilt, but in several of the murders he was even more directly involved. In particular in the LaBianca killings he was the one who first entered the home, assaulted the couple at gunpoint, and tied them up, before letting his 'children' finish the job after he left. My recollection is that he also sliced Gary Hinman's ear off, again immediately prior to the murder.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Nov 16, 2017 - 06:46am PT
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Some time ago one of Charlies roomates tried to beat his azz.. Charlie made it back into his cage avoiding the azz whupping....His guitar got smashed...Roast in Hell bitch..
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Don Paul
Mountain climber
Denver CO
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Nov 16, 2017 - 06:49am PT
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As of 15 minutes ago, Charles Manson was ALIVE but in serious condition in a hospital. Don't forget you read it first on supertopo.com
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Sula
Trad climber
Pennsylvania
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Nov 16, 2017 - 07:18am PT
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The contention that Manson didn't actually kill anyone is kinda like this:
"Yes, I loaded the gun, aimed it, pulled the trigger and launched the bullet. But the bullet did the actual killing, not me."
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Nov 16, 2017 - 07:23am PT
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He's in Bako, may as well be dead. ;^)
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klaus
Big Wall climber
Florence & Normandy
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Nov 16, 2017 - 07:28am PT
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Manson never actually killed anyone
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Nuglet
Trad climber
Orange Murica!
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Nov 16, 2017 - 07:44am PT
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I saw Charles Manson trending & assumed the GOP had picked him to take over for Roy Moore in the race.
coffee, meet keyboard
GOP age of consent: 14
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dirtbag
climber
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Nov 16, 2017 - 07:51am PT
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I don’t see how anyone can say he never murdered anyone himself. Plausible rumors have circulated for years, and the man was certainly capable of it.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Nov 16, 2017 - 08:14am PT
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How long we gunna keep this POS alive?
Pull the life support plug,
adios Crazy Charlie.
Good riddance!
Crazy Charlie was a product - a victim? - of his genetics and his environment. But for the grace of fate go I?
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brotherbbock
climber
Alta Loma, CA
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Nov 16, 2017 - 01:24pm PT
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He was one funny son of a bitch...
Vaya con dios puto!!!!
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Nov 16, 2017 - 02:16pm PT
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. Probably an artifact of 70's drug culture in that regard.
Tut... not to nitpick ... but a product of the 60's drug culture.
One of my friends was in the graduating class of 69 at Chatsworth High...
Just down the road from the Familys ranch.... he said that "squeeky" was always hanging out in the parking lot selling acid.
and I actually lived at "The Ranch".... for a year or so.... after the trial and all of that, my GF trained Jumpers/Hunters and she leased the place in 1977. Everything was bulldozed, flattened.... We set up pipe corrals, a workout ring and moved in some trailers.
If you go down into the creek bed you can find all sorts of evidence... "Charlie is God" was carved into the sandstone....
That is all gone now, some people went in and really erased everything, including that carving.
Good riddance, rot in hell.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Nov 16, 2017 - 02:29pm PT
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The Helter Skelter truck is still out there in Death Valley.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Nov 16, 2017 - 02:39pm PT
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Plausible rumors are interesting, but nobody has reported that a body turned up.
Hinman murder
Charles “Tex” Watson scammed Bernard Crowe to obtain money for Manson. Crowe threatened Manson and the Manson family. Soonafter, Manson shot Crowe under the false pretense that Crowe was part of the Black Panthers, an African-American leftist organization. However, Crowe did not die, and Manson feared retaliation from Crowe. In order to escape and move into a new territory away from the Spahn Ranch (The Manson Family compound), Manson needed money. In the midst of Manson’s escape plan, he was told that his friend Gary Hinman was coming into some money from an inheritance.
In an effort to retrieve money from Hinman, Manson ordered Bobby Beausoleil, along with Mary Brunner and Susan Atkins, to go to Hinman’s residence and persuade him to turn over the money. Hinman was uncooperative. After being held hostage for days, Manson came over with a sword and slashed Hinman’s left ear. Ultimately, Beausoleil murdered Hinman by stabbing him twice in the chest. Hinman’s blood was used to smear “political piggy” on the wall along with the Black Panther’s paw to implicate the Black Panther party.
Although there is much speculation regarding the circumstances surrounding Hinman’s murder, Beausoleil was arrested when he was found sleeping in Hinman’s vehicle, wearing the bloody clothes worn during the stabbing, and with the murder weapon concealed in the trunk tire.
Who knows?
Manson supposedly boasted to having personally committed over 30 murders.
Did Calley actually murder civilians? Why yes he did. Did Raygun pardon him? Why no, he just commuted the sentence.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Nov 16, 2017 - 02:46pm PT
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Weege is good people.
Roger that.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Nov 16, 2017 - 04:34pm PT
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he was originally sentenced to death, but the LIBERAL California Supreme Court invalidated the death sentence a year later saying it was unconstitutional.
I'm glad they did. Enough innocent people have been murdered by the state.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Nov 16, 2017 - 05:10pm PT
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Gary
Is the bus in DV?
I was under the impression that it was on the west side of the Inyo Mts.... its a way point if you climb that pk.
I recall a photo in a hikers GB.
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c wilmot
climber
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Nov 16, 2017 - 05:12pm PT
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It's honestly pretty amazing what he accomplished in such a short time. Not saying he deserves praise or anything but it is impressive that he built such a loyal cult so quickly
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Nov 16, 2017 - 06:38pm PT
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he was originally sentenced to death
Just like Calley, oops!
Pardon me, but let me just commute that for ya William Laws Calley
-conronRayGun
BTW, why doesn't Peyer deeserve the eChair?
On duty, mfker
On December 27th. 1986 20 year old, SDSU college student Cara Knott was travelling southbound on Interstate 15. Cara was on her way home from an evening at her boyfriends home in Escondido to her parents home in El Cajon. Craig Peyer, on duty CHP patrol officer, flashed lights at Knott to pull off the freeway to an isolated off ramp. It is thought the situation with Knott became physical when, she threatened to report Peyers behavior. Peyer beat her with his flash-light, and strangled her with rope from his patrol car. He then disposed of her body by throwing her off an abandoned bridge into the brush below.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Nov 16, 2017 - 07:09pm PT
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^Obviously you've studied the case, eh?
Craig Peyer, the only California Highway Patrol officer ever convicted of committing murder while on duty, was sentenced to state prison Wednesday by a judge who said Cara Knott's death could have been prevented if CHP officials had acted on an earlier citizen's complaint about Peyer.
Peyer, a 13-year CHP veteran before his firing in May, 1987, was sentenced to the maximum term of 25 years to life. He was convicted of strangling Knott, a 20-year-old San Diego State University student, on the night of Dec. 27, 1986, near an isolated off-ramp along Interstate 15 and throwing her body off a bridge 65 feet into a dry creek bed. He will be eligible for consideration for parole after serving 17 years, 8 months.
Superior Court Judge Richard Huffman, who presided over two emotional trials for Peyer, struggled to maintain his composure before imposing the sentence. After praising CHP officials for working hard to restore the agency's reputation after Peyer's arrest, Huffman said they had to share some blame for Knott's death.
The judge was particularly angered by a CHP sergeant's failure to take decisive action when a mother called to complain that Peyer had forced her daughter to stop on the darkened Mercy Road off-ramp one month before Knott was murdered in the area. The sergeant was "following the bureaucratic pattern of dismissing complaints," Huffman said.
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drF
Trad climber
usa
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Nov 16, 2017 - 08:08pm PT
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Is zBrown....errr aka Manson dead yet.
Uninformed TacoTards want to know
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drF
Trad climber
usa
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Nov 16, 2017 - 08:26pm PT
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Ha! Projecting again.
Washed up old man. You should set-up another gofu*k me site.
You burned thru the last bit on record pace. Lipo, tucks, and rehab takes it's toll no?
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Nov 16, 2017 - 09:13pm PT
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derf - even Manson didn't think he was worth pissing on
go find some homeless dudes to give you a murky golden shower - give them a good tip from the other kids lunch money you stole
Two Mansonfamily wannabes, but too stupid to be able to find the ranch. Hoping to score some young hippie babes who would admire their guns
You ran out of drugs? See if you can get 'em on your disability pension or ask your buddy Peyer's buddies to score you some from the evidence locker. Try Xanax it may calm you down
Edit
Never happened
Winer. .. Er ... Winner
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Nov 16, 2017 - 09:24pm PT
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The Bakersfield Gazzette says Manson needs a heart transplant...
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Avery
climber
New Zealand
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Nov 16, 2017 - 09:25pm PT
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I'm sure Manson and his minions were responsible for the death of acress Sharon Tate.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Nov 16, 2017 - 09:28pm PT
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All I know is, he made some really good music over the last 50 years.
Many people know his songs from the movies Footloose, Caddyshack and Top Gun.
His name is not Charles Manson.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Nov 17, 2017 - 06:49am PT
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Gary
Is the bus in DV?
GUy, I used Death Valley to loosely! It's not far from Barker Ranch, closer to Ballarat.
Last spring we hiked up Pahrump Point. We passed what sure looked like an unmarked grave. My first thought was Manson. Our friend Tina thought it was a bit too far from Goler Wash.
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klaus
Big Wall climber
Florence & Normandy
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Nov 17, 2017 - 07:13am PT
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So if I tell you to kill someone and you go ahead and do it does that make me the murderer?
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TimH
Trad climber
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Nov 17, 2017 - 07:16am PT
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This thread is starting to sound a bit like the old Saturday Night Live routine of "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead". Ironically, Franco died Nov 20 of 1975, so maybe Manson's trying to hold on until Monday.
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Alan Rubin
climber
Amherst,MA.
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Nov 17, 2017 - 08:44am PT
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Klaus, yes. in certain circumstances. However, as I posted earlier Manson did much more then merely tell his "Family" to kill people--a circumstance that saw him convicted of multiple capital murders!!!!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 17, 2017 - 08:49am PT
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Gawd, I sooo love the ST legal experts! Talk about jailhouse lawyers!
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Nov 17, 2017 - 09:55am PT
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So when the US sends troops into another nation for war. Are knot the casualties the response ability of us all?
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hooblie
climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
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Nov 17, 2017 - 10:10am PT
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dead yet?
he'll never be dead enough
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Nov 17, 2017 - 10:20am PT
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Hooble....didn’t your mother tell you that if you can’t say something nice about a person don’t say anything at all?
Charlie had a tough upbringing and his drug use certainly wasn’t helpful.
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hooblie
climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
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Nov 17, 2017 - 11:59am PT
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i think it can be demonstrated that "you WILL get all the bullshit you agree to put up with" and progressively that bull becomes yours to own.
and yup, that's what she said by golly
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Nov 17, 2017 - 03:49pm PT
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So if I tell you to kill someone and you go ahead and do it does that make me the murderer?
Basically yes. So long as the your actions can be construed as a conspiracy. That can be a gray area. Offering money is certainly conspiracy. Wishing out loud that someone was dead, probably not. Running a cult. brainwashing a group of young adults, and telling them to kill someone, slam dunk conspiracy
CA Penal code 182 in part provides:
182.
(a) If two or more persons conspire:
(1) To commit any crime. . . . . .
. . . When they conspire to commit any other felony, they shall be punishable in the same manner and to the same extent as is provided for the punishment of that felony.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=PEN§ionNum=182
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astray
Sport climber
where the heart was
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Nov 19, 2017 - 07:50am PT
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i'm a false blond
and far from a superhero
so i am artificially confused
by the association assigned between
me and Charles Manson.
i have never murdered anyone.
usually when i encounter a fellow warm being
i simply suggest via word and action that
they follow their eclectic quest.
and then i lean back and stare really far away
as the drool issues from each side of my mouth;
usually heavier on the left cause i tilt that way.
..dude's shite was way f*#ked. he brought harm.
and i will not shed a tear upon his demise.
he is kin with Donald Trump.
-yea, i'm weege
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hacky47
Trad climber
goldhill
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Nov 19, 2017 - 09:21am PT
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Harboring someone you know that committed murder, even if you did not witness said crime,
Like driving the " get away car " is enough to get you sent away.
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astray
Sport climber
where the heart was
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Nov 19, 2017 - 09:26am PT
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what?
i have not murdered anybody.
nor have i witnessed a murder.
i don't know anyone who's committed a murder.
i'm not going away.
hell, i'm permanently astray.
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Matt Sarad
climber
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Nov 19, 2017 - 10:12am PT
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It’s always rewarding to call Bakersfield home.
Charlie is resting comfortably about a half mile from where I sit.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Nov 19, 2017 - 11:25am PT
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Hey Matt! Maybe time to grab some SuperTacos and head up the canyon eh!? You ever boulder up in and around Mill Ck?
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Matt Sarad
climber
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Nov 19, 2017 - 12:24pm PT
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Nope.
Shoulder says watch boulderers suffer while drinking beer.
Happy to accompany you with beverages.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Nov 19, 2017 - 12:29pm PT
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Ha! Your present location and style of bouldering have me thinking Guthrie's!
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Matt Sarad
climber
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Nov 19, 2017 - 12:40pm PT
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Logan Ladd is the guy to boulder with. He is a few blocks closer to Charley.
Look for the Blue Tacoma across from Franklin School north side.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Nov 19, 2017 - 08:13pm PT
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Astray sighting!
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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Nov 19, 2017 - 09:29pm PT
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hey weegetray!
welcome back...if it's really you:)
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Nov 19, 2017 - 09:57pm PT
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Charlie don't breathe.
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Bushman
climber
The state of quantum flux
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Nov 20, 2017 - 05:43am PT
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I hate to waste words
but good riddance to that psycho
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 21, 2017 - 11:43am PT
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The guy was delusional as hell, he actually believed his own horsesh!t coming out of his mind ......
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Nov 21, 2017 - 12:09pm PT
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Charles Manson Was Not a Product of the Counterculture
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/20/opinion/charles-manson-counterculture.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fopinion&action=click&contentCollection=opinion®ion=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=5&pgtype=sectionfront
But with some historical distance, and after Mr. Manson’s death on Sunday at age 83, we can see that the simplistic counterculture dichotomy of “freaks” versus “squares” caused people to lump Mr. Manson in with the freaks (for he certainly wasn’t a square). Apart from the long hair and the casual sex, however, Mr. Manson, who spent much of his life in prison with a swastika carved into his head, had more in common ideologically with far-right groups like the John Birch Society than he did with the anarchic leftism of, say, the Yippies.
Mr. Manson was not the end point of the counterculture. If anything, he was a backlash against the civil rights movement and a harbinger of white supremacist race warriors like Dylann Roof, the lunatic fringe of the alt-right.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Nov 21, 2017 - 12:19pm PT
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Chuck was a paranoid schizophrenic, the product of a clearly diagnosed mental disorder.
He would have had the same condition regardless of his upbringing or political affiliations.
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Sula
Trad climber
Pennsylvania
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Nov 22, 2017 - 06:31am PT
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Craig Fry posted:
Manson ... had more in common ideologically with far-right groups like the John Birch Society Interesting - what specific similarities do you see between these two viewpoints?
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tom woods
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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Nov 22, 2017 - 07:13am PT
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Lovesasoline- that is an interesting study you posted. I used know a bit about these guys from my reporting days.
The idea that there were additional murders in Inyo County has never really panned out, but two additional deaths do make you wonder.
Look up Karl Stubbs in Olancha, and phillipo tennerelli.
The CHP (If I remember right) put the Tennerelli case into their follow up Manson report. His VW bug was found wrecked off of Father Crowley point in Death Valley, while his body was found in a hotel in Bishop. He death was ruled a suicide by shotgun I believe.
Stubbs was beaten to death in Olancha in 1968, he decribed young drifter perpetrators before he died.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Nov 22, 2017 - 07:48am PT
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Manson was a Neo-Nazi, that is obvious.
The apatite to start a race war is a far-right ambition, the opposite of a free loving liberal hippy.
His cult was based him being the Authoritarian leader controlling his minions, just like many other religions.
The comparison to the Birchers was from the article I cut and pasted.
I don't know much about them except they are also far-right loons that hate all other races.
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c wilmot
climber
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Nov 22, 2017 - 07:51am PT
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Craig- you realize Manson wanted to start a race war in which whites would lose - right?
Trying to claim his actions were that of a far right ideologue is WAY off the mark
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Nov 22, 2017 - 07:56am PT
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^^^^
WRONG
as usual
he sure wasn't a liberal
He wanted a race war to start a revolution
He carved a F-ing Swastika on his forehead, you can't get any more Neo-Nazi than that
Which proves you tripily WRONG
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tom woods
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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Nov 22, 2017 - 07:56am PT
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He may have been a neo-nazi back in the 60's, but I think of him more as using prison rules for race relations.
He was also a pimp and used the techniques of running prostitutes to get what he wanted whether it's a place to stay or a record contract.
Hippie? Only in the sales pitch to get the young women into the cult.
He convinced Diane Lake's parents to give her to Mason at age 14. He probably used the hippie free love sales pitch on her. It also puts him into the realm of rapist, in addition to murderer.
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c wilmot
climber
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Nov 22, 2017 - 08:02am PT
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You are right Craig- what right wingers truly want is for all whites to be eliminated in a race war save for a handfull of drug addled freaks who will rule over the surviving black population
Makes perfect sense
Just like thinking that an anti communist organization is similar to the goals of outlaw freaks living a transient communal life
You have it all figured out
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dirtbag
climber
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Nov 22, 2017 - 08:11am PT
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It’s pontless attributing any ideology to a psychopath.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 22, 2017 - 08:14am PT
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Yeah, it’s like psycho-analyzing a cockroach.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Nov 22, 2017 - 08:22am PT
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Craig- you realize Manson wanted to start a race war in which whites would lose - right?
Wrong again, wilmot. Read up on the death of Shorty Shay. One of the reasons Manson wanted Shay killed is because He was married to a black woman. Manson did not like blacks.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Nov 22, 2017 - 08:23am PT
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Take a look at Timothy McVeigh and the Turner Diaries
Start a revolution that brings out the Right Wingers to fight the gun grabbers, blacks, liberals, freedom restrictions, etc.
It's a far-right wet dream...
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Russ Walling
Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 22, 2017 - 08:29am PT
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Manson was a true Liberal... albeit not as far left as say Craig, but a liberal none the less.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Nov 22, 2017 - 08:31am PT
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Liberals are pacifists, so you guys don't know what the hell you taking about.
But if you want to believe lies, you are in good company, the whole right-wing population can only accept lies to keep them from hating themselves
Everything the right wingers claim is a lie, misinformation, BS, out of context, falsehood, wrong, unproven, anti-scientific....
that's all you got
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 22, 2017 - 08:37am PT
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Liberals are pacifists
Hmmm, ever check the voting breakdown of our military? My bro-in-law is an ex-nuclear bomber pilot, and a Democrat. Don’t go pissing him off!
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Nov 22, 2017 - 08:38am PT
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Does he want to start a war???
Please ask him and get back to us.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 22, 2017 - 08:42am PT
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Stoopid question, or weak troll.
Or do you have yer own definition of ‘pacifist’?
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c wilmot
climber
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Nov 22, 2017 - 08:54am PT
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10b- where did I say Manson liked black people?
What point is there in making up accusations for the purpose of claiming others are "wrong" ?
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GuapoVino
climber
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Nov 23, 2017 - 09:41am PT
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Manson was a pretty good musician and actually recorded a demo of several songs with the help of Dennis Wilson of the Beach Boys, and he lived with him for a very short time until he asked him to leave because he was too weird. He was hoping to get a record deal and had met with record producer Terry Melcher (son of Doris Day). He felt that Melcher snubbed him so he decided to kill him. He sent his followers to Melcher's home at 10050 Cielo Drive, except Melcher had moved from that address and it was the current home of Sharon Tate so she got killed instead.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 25, 2017 - 10:33am PT
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Good article in today’s LA Times about the pain suffered by the families. It’s not up on their website yet as far as I can see.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Nov 25, 2017 - 01:32pm PT
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The man who could have been a beacon of freedom in thought and action ended up imprisoned for life because of meeting the wrong people at the wrong time.
That quote of Schrecks, alone, clearly paints him as a supporter and apologist of Manson.
his writing is junk, this sums it up:
and especially updates the tenuous links between Hollywood, the Mafia, the American prison system, the Pentagon, the CIA, and U.S. Secret Service.
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drF
Trad climber
usa
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Nov 25, 2017 - 02:21pm PT
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Liberals are pacifists, so you guys don't know what the hell you taking about.
But if you want to believe lies, you are in good company, the whole right-wing population can only accept lies to keep them from hating themselves
Everything the right wingers claim is a lie, misinformation, BS, out of context, falsehood, wrong, unproven, anti-scientific....
that's all you got
Lies...all lies. Only Craig is right....the rest of ya'll live for lies. Liberals never hurt anyone....hence their pacifistic nature. When they do commit acts of violence they must be right-wingers deep down inside b/c ONLY right-wingers are evil. Just like Charlie carving a swastika in his forehead means he's a right-wing neo-nazi?
In Craig's world, that must mean the people using that symbol over the last 12,000 years were neo-nazi white supremacists too? Where do you come up with this garbage man? Craig is much more aligned with Charlie than a sane 'liberal'. Ooozing with delusional paranoia
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Nov 25, 2017 - 02:48pm PT
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I thought he was great in Journey to the Center of the Earth not to mention 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea.
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L
climber
It's a Bear Affair
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Nov 25, 2017 - 08:09pm PT
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How about his role as Mr. Jordan in Heaven Can Wait, Locker?
He really nailed that one.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Nov 25, 2017 - 09:13pm PT
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Charles Manson's family is asking the public to respect their privacy in this time of grief, and to keep Charlie's dream alive by rampaging through the streets, shrieking and tearing each other limb from limb.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Nov 25, 2017 - 11:53pm PT
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Apparently, Manson took out a marriage license, so that he could wed some woman who had been visiting him for a number of years. Manson got cold feet, apparently because he learned that all the woman wanted was his cold, dead corpse, so that she and her husband could exhibit it for a fee.
Apparently, the woman and her husband had read a fictional book, Another Roadside Attraction, and thought bringing it to real life, with Manson on display, was their ticket to the big time.
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nah000
climber
now/here
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Nov 26, 2017 - 12:25am PT
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JB: poignant lines. thanks.
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Nov 26, 2017 - 08:57am PT
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(Manson) had more in common ideologically with far-right groups like the John Birch Society than he did with the anarchic leftism of, say, the Yippies.
Manson must have messed up his "message".
"Dig it! First they killed those pigs. Then they ate dinner in the same room with them. Then they even shoved a fork into the victim’s stomach! Wild!"
Bernadine Dohrn, (with Bill Ayers' approval).
https://spectator.org/charles-manson-and-the-weather-underground/
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Nov 27, 2017 - 11:36pm PT
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Nice research, Neal.
I saw a guy in a black North Face puffy this fall, and thought at first it was you. Haven't seen you round in ages.
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dirtbag
climber
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He’s stilll dead, right?!?!
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rmuir
Social climber
From the Time Before the Rocks Cooled.
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According to Klimmer 2.0, Ol' Charlie ain't gone. He's still alive and kicking…and taking names on social media.
He's on Twitter as @Charles_Mannnsonnn. (With three 'n's. 3Ns.) Check it out!
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