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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Oct 27, 2017 - 10:02pm PT
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Paid patriotism seems like a marketing/recruitment strategy designed to increase voluntary enlistments. What could be a better place to target those funds than arenas full of people who get excited by opposing team sports engaged in a war metaphor?
It's cheaper and better PR than running an national involuntary draft.
And climbers should totally carry flags for summit pics.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Oct 27, 2017 - 10:12pm PT
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Nosh man...!
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Oct 27, 2017 - 10:17pm PT
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some pussies need to watch Red Dawn and get with the MF program
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Oct 27, 2017 - 10:20pm PT
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I stand in respect for those who have served.
Other than that, I'm a agnostic, socialist, dissident.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Oct 27, 2017 - 10:32pm PT
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I mean, would somebody please think of the volk?
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Oct 27, 2017 - 10:33pm PT
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Harness on or harness off?
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Oct 27, 2017 - 10:34pm PT
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Hi Jim
Well maybe in Canada, but I was at the Anaheim stadium once and saw one happy camper celebrate by breaking a quart beer bottle over another guy's head. Sporting events not been berry berry good to a lot of folks in the USA
REMEMBER when The Boss used to sing Born in the USA and listeners didn't get it?
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Oct 27, 2017 - 10:41pm PT
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Why do we sing the national anthem before so many sporting events?
Because you were brainwashed from the day you were born to believe that your...
...your anything...
...your school, your town, your region, your state, your country, your religion, your political party...
...that your whatever was better than the other guy's whatever. It's not just an American thing, but it certainly is embraced in the US. And it leads us, wherever we were born, and wherever we live, to divide the world into Us and Them. Singing the national anthem is just one more illustration of it.
Most people can't live their own lives without something to live those lives in opposition to. Our religion vs their religion. Our school vs their school. Our town vs their town. Our party vs their party. Our country vs their country.
You can sum it up in one sentence. One idiotic sentence: "The sports team from my area is more worthy of mindless adulation than the sports team from your area."
You and the guy next door probably want almost all the same things. Family, job, decent neighborhood, a park to walk in, decent school for your kids... the list goes on and on and on. But somehow, you live in one camp and he lives in another, and so the 99% of things you want in common become irrelevant, and your lives are consumed with fighting over the other 1%.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Oct 27, 2017 - 11:13pm PT
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This brings up a point I've always been curious about: Why do we sing the national anthem before so many sporting events?
I mean, seriously...think about it. What's the motivation for that display? Sporting event. Patriotism. Am I missing a correlation there?
If anyone has a rational answer, please let me know. Thanks.
it isn't necessarily obvious, but sports are one of the opiates of the people, to paraphrase Marx. I think it is not so much as the sports wrapping themselves in a flag, as much as the country wrapping itself in the uniform of sports. We generally have not been able to watch actual combat as a sport for ages. (I don't count MMA, which tries). This is a surrogate, for when the gentry went out of Washington DC in their carriages, with basket lunches, to watch the civil war.
BTW, John Gill, I totally agree with you. (mark the date)
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Oct 28, 2017 - 01:41am PT
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hooblie
climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
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Oct 28, 2017 - 02:38am PT
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take a knee leave a knee. cognitive function, that's hit and miss
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Don Paul
Mountain climber
Denver CO
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Oct 28, 2017 - 06:35am PT
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The population has been increasing here for some time, with people coming from both coasts. People are alarmed by the crowds. Bumper stickers that say "native" and look like the Colorado license plate are quite popular. Go home, foreigners. You're not from here and don't belong. You are not one of us. That's what nativism means. It's a primitive/tribal concept not much different from racism. That's how I see it anyway, as a transplant from NYC.
* on second thought, sporting events are primitive/tribal events anyway, so why not? Bring a giant flag to the burning man, that's tribal too.
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hooblie
climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
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Oct 28, 2017 - 06:54am PT
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more pertinent is the music that arises when body, soul and cosmic circumstance come into resonance. songs born of crowds assembled in conflict are a different matter
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Oct 28, 2017 - 07:54am PT
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^^^^
The Fanfare For the Common Man by Aaron Copland.
This fanfare was written on request from Eugene Goossens,
conductor of the Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra,
in response to the US entry into the Second World War.
Do you realize that most Native Americans played shinny or some form of it?
Do you know that most Native Americans in the past didn't wear headbands?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Oct 28, 2017 - 08:08am PT
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And Chuck Connors couldn't hit left-handed pitching...
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Oct 28, 2017 - 08:11am PT
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It's not the anthem I don't respect.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Oct 28, 2017 - 08:15am PT
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I stand. Maybe after the song everyone go pick up some trash. That's more patriotic, imo.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Oct 28, 2017 - 08:22am PT
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+1 hooblie and totally feeling norm's take too.
and yeah, spot on NWO2, what other country grants one the liberty to immolate the national flag?
hooray for the great American freedom of expression.
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