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tooth
Trad climber
B.C.
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Jul 24, 2017 - 05:44am PT
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I would like to point out that when I worked as a dentist/contractor for the US military in Guam, I found that so many guys I was working on were not US citizens. I asked them about this and they said that they could volunteer to join the US army, and that they, PLUS their families back home in their own countries would get green cards. Without even setting foot on US soil I asked? Yes they all replied.
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Jul 24, 2017 - 08:00am PT
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Not so much, tooth.
It may come as a surprise to learn that serving in the United States military does not automatically confer citizenship, but it doesn’t. It can smooth the way, provided the aspiring citizen is aware of what they need to do in order to apply for citizenship and gets it done within a certain timeframe. However, it’s not uncommon for enlistees to wrongly assume (having never been told otherwise) they have done all they need to do in order to be awarded citizenship, and thus all they have to do after their honorable discharge is wait.
http://www.snopes.com/united-states-deporting-veterans/
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado & Nepal
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Jul 24, 2017 - 09:13am PT
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Of course there's always paperwork involved. Veterans have an easy time though getting recommendations from their congressmen which helps. At least this was true before Trump was elected and started talking about banning various groups and extreme vetting. Now the situation is more difficult.
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tooth
Trad climber
B.C.
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Aug 12, 2017 - 12:24am PT
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Winemaker, I think there is some confusion between getting a green card and getting citizenship. One confers the ability to live and work and pay taxes in the USA and the other a US passport. Both allow one to legally be in the USA.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Aug 12, 2017 - 03:06am PT
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cosmic: "Illegal Aliens. If you would like to report illegal aliens, please call Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) at 1-866-DHS-2ICE (347-2423). They will need to know names, locations (either work place or residence) and any other specific information you can provide."
Does the DEA have a number for reporting old, senile dopers?
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gruzzy
Social climber
socal
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Aug 14, 2017 - 08:09pm PT
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The anger some people hold on to. let it go.
Buddha. Yoga. Bliss. Doves. Ghandi. Tie dye.Real Swiss Chocolate!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Aug 15, 2017 - 09:18am PT
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According to my calculations there are about (give or take a half billion) 3.5 Billion people who want a US green card. We're just insensitive racists for denying them, right? I know it would be great for realty prices but Yosemite is already maxed out. :-/
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Aug 15, 2017 - 09:22am PT
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They should have arrested you and thrown away the key when you climbed the
Sears Tower.
Well, they did arrest me, but I spent the day in jail tripping while having a great discussion with the Chicago police & fire commissioners, chiefs and their top rescue officers kicking around different skyscraper fire rescue / evacuation schemes and equipment ideas.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Aug 15, 2017 - 11:06am PT
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Tooth, I think you do not know how complex it has gotten in the last couple of decades.
For someone who has no special status, simply applying results in being placed on a waiting list, that is something like 20 years long.
If one has some special status, they then BUMP somebody else down the list, who has been lawfully waiting.
In any case, it is not simple, and it is not just a matter of paperwork.
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tooth
Trad climber
B.C.
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Aug 15, 2017 - 07:49pm PT
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I don't know how complex a couple decades ago Ken. I only know how it was in 2010. Not even a decade ago. If you want complex, try giving a green card back like I did, or giving up US citizenship like my family did this year. Not easy, and super expensive too. Ten times harder leaving than coming.
And a us immigration officer told me that bump thing was baloney. After his mate told me that I shouldn't have a green card while working in Canada since it was preventing someone else from working in the USA because there was only a certain number of green cards available and I should return mine so someone else could use it. I think they were both a little confused.
I would consider your post to be spreading false disinformation.
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