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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jun 14, 2017 - 09:51am PT
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Gun violence is gun violence - a pity these very same congressmen aren't vaguely interested in reining in guns in America.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Jun 14, 2017 - 09:51am PT
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Why do some have to instantly make this a left vs. right thing?
It seems this cowardly attack may show an area where we could have bipartisan support to pass better laws that try to keep guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jun 14, 2017 - 10:02am PT
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Possibly because these very same congressman have made it endlessly clear they aren't vaguely interested - bipartisan or otherwise - in doing anything about gun violence.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jun 14, 2017 - 10:17am PT
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Steve Scalise: Anybody that thinks this is where the President wants to end, this is just the beginning. He has a history of wanting to take away the gun rights of law-abiding citizens, and we're not going to stand for it.”
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Norton
Social climber
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Jun 14, 2017 - 10:21am PT
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after every shooting the political right says if only more people had guns if would have helped
and the left says why don't we try to limit the easy availability of guns by tougher background checks
and so nothing is done, even after 25 eight year olds were slaughtered at Sandy Hook
everyone says they will pray regardless
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jun 14, 2017 - 10:22am PT
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^^^
this is what makes it right and left issue
The right will only do what the NRA tells them, and they control congress, and it comes down to money in their pockets and keeping a rabid base of gun nuts happy
Hence, the only thing that happens is there are more guns being sold because of the hysteria the right creates by lying about guns being taken away
so the problem gets worse because of Republican policy and propaganda
The blood is on their hands, they allowed these people to buy guns, there are more guns being sold than ever before...because of this climate of fear
Will they do anything? No, this will ramp up gun sales.
What about next week's shooting, will we ask the same questions, and whine about people making it a right and left issue?
The left wanted to restrict guns to people that shouldn't have them.
The right said F*#k off!
You can ask madbolter, that's his answer to restricting guns.
Should this person have a gun?
Yes or no?
Multiple people shot in San Francisco at UPS facility
SAN FRANCISCO (KGO) --
Multiple people have been injured after a shooting at a UPS facility in the area of 17th Street and San Bruno Avenue in San Francisco, police say.
WATCH LIVE: ABC7 News coverage of multiple shooting at UPS facility in SF
Sources tell ABC7 News at least three people were shot at the facility and multiple victims have been transported to SF General. The source says the shooter then turned the gun on himself and that currently police are going through the building making sure there aren't any other accomplices.
A source says this was a single shooter who went into the building during a morning meeting and the suspect may be a disgruntled employee. The source says that one of the people who was shot is the suspected shooter.
A witness who was inside the building says she believes it was one driver shooting toward other drivers while a morning meeting was happening.
UPS says police now have the building under their control.
The conditions of the victims are unknown at this time.
http://abc7news.com/news/multiple-people-shot-in-san-francisco-at-ups-facility/2098106/
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jun 14, 2017 - 10:38am PT
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What I find troubling about the Washington assassination attempt, this guy apparently fell into the category of person, who under the Obama law, would not have been able to own guns (domestic violence conviction). He also had a history of firing a shotgun in a neighborhood (who wouldn't want him as a neighbor?).
The Repubs want people like him to have guns. They got their wish.
Bernie Sanders made a statement identifying the shooter as a volunteer on his campaign, and repudiating this action.
Best wishes to the wounded.
Apparently, the practice was in preparation for a dem vs. repug baseball game held yearly to raise money for charity.
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Jun 14, 2017 - 12:09pm PT
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What the F is the matter with people? Our society is falling to pieces right in front of our eyes :(
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Jun 14, 2017 - 12:18pm PT
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The political threads here on ST are nurseries for whipping up leftist hysteria to "Hodgkinson" levels.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jun 14, 2017 - 12:23pm PT
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I think better gun laws would transfer to less death by guns
Don't be dense and get all wrapped up with distractions.
Root-cause analysis.
"Laws" don't change people's root motivations for violence or anything else. If someone wants to kill someone or groups of people, they will.
Look to Europe or anywhere else with the recent "terrorist" attacks where "gun laws" basically strip the peasants of firearms. Machine-guns and bombs were still used... Imagine that.
This guy decided to open fire on people he hated. He's not nuts, he simply decided he had enough and left the farm.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jun 14, 2017 - 12:24pm PT
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These two make the tally 153 mass shootings in the first 165 days of 2017.
If you don't think we have a serious gun problem you are delusional.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jun 14, 2017 - 12:33pm PT
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Perhaps we have a serious "violence" problem. You'd have to look at each instance and determine the perpetrators motivations.
I'd wager over 75% of that violence stems from the absolute waste of resources spent on the "War on Drugs" and the organized crime that it creates.
There's something a "law", or better yet, removal of laws, could help.
Although this latest murderer will of course get all of the MSM focus to drive the narrative of "Guns bad", it's a singular event that killed one person in a country of several hundred million.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Jun 14, 2017 - 01:32pm PT
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Yeah, easy access to semi-automatic, military-style rifles just can't have anything to do with it.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Jun 14, 2017 - 02:41pm PT
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The political threads here on ST are nurseries for whipping up leftist hysteria to "Hodgkinson" levels.
what an ignorant statement. typical of the uneducated.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jun 14, 2017 - 02:43pm PT
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This is not rocket science. Unfortunately the US has a lot of very disturbed people. We either make it harder for these people to get guns, especially assault weapons, or we accept the consequences in the name of convient access to guns for everyone else.
It is interesting. American "patriots" value rugged individualism and self sufficiency, but we live in a society that depends on cooperation and compromise to flourish. Where is the balance?
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Jun 14, 2017 - 02:57pm PT
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And another shooter kills 3 in Cali--UPS pissed off.
Yup, we need more guns out there.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jun 14, 2017 - 03:10pm PT
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yay guns
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jun 14, 2017 - 03:17pm PT
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I just don't know whether to defecate or go blind.
What if the guy had flown a drone, packin' an agent orange laced grenade into the the game and by some weird quirk of fate it exploded.
Did ya get any on ya?
-Jes Sprayin
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