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locker

climber
Sep 30, 2017 - 11:40am PT


All I have left to say on the subject is that personally...

I prefer multigrain bread...



:-)

John M

climber
Sep 30, 2017 - 11:47am PT
I do too.. but not sure we agree on what constitutes "grain".

Hank, Russ, Roger, Crimpergirl are grain to me.

Bear breeder. not so much. And people like bear breeder are part of what drove the others away. Some would argue that I was part of driving them away too because I mostly posted to political threads and its the politics that drove them away. Thats possible too. Thats why I mostly don't post anymore.

I don't know what the answer is.

Cheers Locker. I hope that you are well and find the Taco that you want.

Edit:

What your Taco looks like to me: Extra spicy with a side of diarrhea.

What my Taco looks like to you: Mild with a side of boring...

LOL..
zBrown

Ice climber
Sep 30, 2017 - 11:50am PT
Get your motor runnin, get out on the highway, before it becomes an oil drrick

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/content/dam/travel/photos/000/Migration/78323.ngsversion.1470327730448.adapt.1900.1.jpg

locker

climber
Sep 30, 2017 - 12:01pm PT

John M...

Looks like you got your wish...

Bearbreeder appears to be TOAST...




...




frostback

Social climber
great white north
Oct 1, 2017 - 10:29pm PT
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/10/01/donad-trump-making-canada-great-again-215651
Canada has been a significant beneficiary of the donald. Loads of wealth generating, tax-paying jobs in Vancouver and Toronto are being filled by ambitious internationals that used to be part of American exceptionalism.
These new-Canadians also act as a nice counterpoint to the policy mis-steps of selling citizenships to the idle international rich whose main contribution, apart from keeping the trades busy installing ivory handled back-scratchers in their mcmansions, has been to distort the real-estate markets.
Thanks donald for helping to increase levels of economic activity in canada!

Edit
Those who read the statement from Roger Stone posted last week by Cosmic may find this dissection of interest.
http://www.newsweek.com/how-roger-stone-tried-muddy-waters-russia-investigation-672326
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Oct 2, 2017 - 08:10am PT
Too damn many guns. Period.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Oct 2, 2017 - 08:10am PT
Stone has a rebuttal for every allegation made against him.. Stone should just shut up and quit singing like a little birdy... Seems like every time he opens his mouth he digs a deeper hole for himself...?
monolith

climber
state of being
Oct 2, 2017 - 10:29pm PT
Gunman did use a bump stock device to achieve rapid fire. Will be interesting to see how the NRA defends this.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/Las-Vegas-gunman-used-bump-stock-device-to-12247973.php
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Oct 3, 2017 - 12:03am PT
Guardian: 3% of American adults own half of guns in the US

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/19/us-gun-ownership-survey
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Oct 3, 2017 - 05:44am PT
Gunman did use a bump stock device to achieve rapid fire. Will be interesting to see how the NRA defends this.

The NRA is suing the LVPD for denying the gunman the free exercise of his 2nd Amendment rights.
10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Oct 3, 2017 - 08:22am PT
I watched Kimmel last night.
He hit the nail on the head.

F*#k the NRA.
frostback

Social climber
great white north
Oct 3, 2017 - 10:25am PT
Bush I, who as a former spook was no stranger during Iran contra and the viscous black arts that were, and are, the underbelly of American empire resigned his NRA membership over what he saw was essentially a lobbying group that was dedicated to enabling americans to slaughter each other. While I am no fan of his overseas actions, I salute his principled calling of the NRA to account.
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Oct 3, 2017 - 05:15pm PT
I try and to try, no more political posts.

But just the sight of that orange hypocrite Trump, I try to see past my biases. I try to be objective.

I try.

But then I see Mr Trump and his idiocy. And it makes me wonder about the state of America.

He is a good showman, no doubt, he especially puts on a good show for his base. And the hurricanes and shootings defer from his problems, he must actually welcome such tragedies, as they deflect from his ongoing problems.

The guy is a farce, history will show that. Not me, not you. But time.

And any Trump supporters on the forum, or indeed smoking ducks with conspiracy theories, throw your best at me. I do not care what your feeble minds think. I can take your insults.

EDIT

I told myself when I reactivated my Patrick Sawyer account, refrain, be objective, be smart. Don't be suckered by the wind up merchants and trolls.

But Donald Trump is a different, difficult, kettle of fish. He does not believe in anything he says, Imo. And if so, how can one 'legislate' for that. A POTUS with no morals, no decency (he has shown it), no clue. Certainly no clue on The Constitution, on right and wrong, on governance.

And people blindly support him because he is a) not the establishment, well excuse me but if you are a billionaire, you are in the circle; b) an outsider, see a, billionaires are not outsiders; draining the swamp? With what? Diplomatic or statesman? Are you kidding me?

The guy has no clue how to run a country or be a leader. He has his base, and they l love him. Whoopee. He tweets and behaves like an adolescent. He is vindictive, he is juvenile, at best. This all shows in his behaviour. It is not my subjective view, Trump's behaviour is on show.

Charisma is not the same as showmanship.

A sorry state of affairs.
Yury

Mountain climber
T.O.
Oct 3, 2017 - 06:48pm PT
Patrick Sawyer:
But then I see Mr Trump and his idiocy. And it makes me wonder about the state of America.
I told myself when I reactivated my Patrick Sawyer account, refrain, be objective, be smart.
Patrick, if you want to be smart you need to stop your fixation on Trump.
You need to start thinking about what made possible ascent of Trump to power.

What do you really know about people who voted for Trump and who support him know?
It seems to me that you do not understand them.
Indeed, a sorry state of affairs.

Note: I agree that your posts are good from virtue signaling point of view.
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 3, 2017 - 09:27pm PT
What role does the USA have in making the world a better place? Here is one way in which we fall short, and our domestic divisions have life and death consequences for people around the world:
https://www.salon.com/2017/10/03/u-s-votes-against-u-n-resolution-condemning-death-penalty-for-lgbtq-people-is-this-who-we-are/
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Oct 3, 2017 - 09:31pm PT
If you think the goal of people running the USA since they bathed two civilian Japanese cities in nuclear fire is to "make the world a better place" then you haven't been paying attention.
moosedrool

climber
Andrzej Citkowicz far away from Poland
Oct 3, 2017 - 09:51pm PT
Come on, Fear. Didn't we bring democracy to Iraq?

Moose
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 3, 2017 - 10:57pm PT
Obviously the list of unsavory actions in the world sponsored by our nation is lengthy.

Just shining a light on stuff happening right now that we as citizens can be vocal about, stuff we can make voting decisions based on, to effect change in the world.
lostinshanghai

Social climber
someplace
Oct 5, 2017 - 06:17pm PT
“Patrick, if you want to be smart you need to stop your fixation on Trump.
You need to start thinking about what made possible ascent of Trump to power.

What do you really know about people who voted for Trump and who support him know?

It seems to me that you do not understand them.”

Yury, tell me who you think or where the ascent of Trump’s power came from and tell me some of the names of those people who did?

We are taking about understanding whom and why? Just interested if you know yourself or understand.
frostback

Social climber
great white north
Oct 5, 2017 - 06:40pm PT
Get me roger stone!
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