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Cragar

climber
MSLA - MT
Oct 25, 2017 - 01:11pm PT
Cognitive Dissonance
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 25, 2017 - 02:22pm PT
And in other news... more folks will lose access to news:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/10/25/the-fcc-plans-to-roll-back-some-of-its-biggest-rules-against-media-consolidation

I'll take bets now on how long before FCC makes it legal for ISP monopolies to alter search results. They can already selectively slow down access to sites that conflict with their financial interest. It's only a matter of time before that financial interest is linked to political outcomes more explicitly in regulating what we can find on the Internet.

Berlusconi, the child-prostitute-bedding bunga-bunga-party tax-evading hooker-to-politician-supporting criminal former Prime Minister of Italy stayed in power for so long because he owned all the news media outlets, enabling him to restrict the release of facts and alter people's perceptions.

At least we have a historical reference to know what lies ahead for us.
dirtbag

climber
Oct 25, 2017 - 05:50pm PT
??????
dirtbag

climber
Oct 25, 2017 - 06:12pm PT
I rarely engage with them much with anymore. Not worth it.
monolith

climber
state of being
Oct 25, 2017 - 07:23pm PT
#alertthedaycarestaff

healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Oct 26, 2017 - 03:16am PT
I've got $50 that says Trump & co sees prison way before the Clintons.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Oct 26, 2017 - 04:25am PT


rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Oct 26, 2017 - 06:40am PT
I hope the Vince foster case is re-opened and Whitewater also.. Maybe the Lewnski case while their at it...?
monolith

climber
state of being
Oct 26, 2017 - 06:58am PT
Trump declares opioid emergency but won't increase the budget to fight it.

Seems pointless, but that's how they roll.
c wilmot

climber
Oct 26, 2017 - 06:58am PT
Ship arriving too late to save a drowning witch...
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Oct 26, 2017 - 07:16am PT
The Clinton's absolutely suck, so did Bush Cheney- ok, there...

Trump and his supporters are in a very special "head completely up your a*#" category. You can't obfuscate or run from this- your head is in your a*# and you're very easy to identify.
Keith Reed

climber
Johnson county TX
Oct 26, 2017 - 07:27am PT
Cosmic ragman copies from 4chan.

That’s some BS there bud. You might as well ask a cracked out homeless bum than go to 4chan for information.


Weak.
Norton

climber
The Wastelands
Oct 26, 2017 - 07:35am PT
Hillary is for open borders

prove it
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 26, 2017 - 07:38am PT
Cosmic, from limited experience I perceived you to be an easy-going and mellow person to interact with in real life, a conscientious climbing partner, and I remember that you read a lot. I'm guessing you have enough free time to consolidate your thoughts on policy issues and articulate what you care about.

What are your national policy interests beyond triggering "liberals"? Do you have unmet expectations of your government that you have given up on voicing? I would very much value seeing this perspective.
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Oct 26, 2017 - 08:29am PT
This Movie explains what happened to cosmic

The Brainwashing of My Dad

By iowagirl

Thursday Oct 26, 2017 · 6:34 AM PDT
Jen Senko Thebrainwashingofmydad.com

This is not only a must-see documentary, it is an engaging, tender personal story, told by a daughter, Jen Senko, who lost her dad to the right-wing media. It is a fascinating yet sad and all too common tale about the observable personality changes that took hold over her father after he accidentally happened upon right-wing radio and became addicted to it. Once a happy, non-judgmental, easy-going guy, he became an angry, embittered person that no one in his family recognized after he started spending more and more time listening to Rush Limbaugh and Fox News.

The movie weaves together the daughter’s personal narrative with the history of the growth of right wing media in the United States. Going back to Nixon and beyond, the film did a thorough job of tracing the forces within the Republican party that used the Supreme Court and political manipulation to establish their own media in order to influence elections in their favor, as a reaction to the liberalism of the 60’s.

The film covers the Powell Memo of 1971, that laid the groundwork for conservatives to undermine institutions they saw as against the “free enterprise” system such as college campuses and the news media. It mentions the demise of The Fairness Doctrine under Reagan that gave rise to right wing radio, The Telecommunications Act of 1996 that was signed into law by President Clinton and resulted in more media monopolization; and the right’s newly acquired ability to use biased language to purposefully keep people in a constant state of fear and anger in order to make them easier to manipulate. Frank Luntz, Roger Ailes, and Lee Atwater all make appearances as they were important figures because they understood how biased and inflammatory language works on the brain.

An expert explains that brainwashing does not have to involve force, that you can sort of slide into it. There are 5 factors that are involved – isolation, control, uncertainty, repetition, strong emotions. Right wing media creates uncertainty, fear and anger. And most people listen to right wing radio when they are alone – in their car, their garage, their house.

The film outlines recognizable tactics: 1 – lie and skew; 2 – create confusion and doubt; 3 – blame and divide; 4 – brand and label; 5 – language and framing; 6 – fear mongering and use of emotion; 7 – bullying and shaming; 8 – in your face! (it’s everywhere); 9 – non-verbal manipulation. It is very interesting to hear how how Frank Luntz coached Hannity to point and gesture for strongest effect and how O’Reilly feigns anger and rage.

And yet the movie leaves you feeling strangely hopeful about the unasked question: Is it possible for someone to be de-programmed? Happily, the answer is yes.

One thing we have all experienced and as George Lakoff has written about, arguing with someone who is addicted to right wing media just creates fights and makes them dig in even deeper. But if you too have a loved one or loved ones who have fallen victim to it, there is something you can do and this is it: Interrupt their exposure to it in whatever creative ways you can, as much as you can, and find ways to expose the person to other kinds of input and activities.


Many Christian Churches have become right wing brainwashing sources, because we all know Jesus was big on lying, dividing, fear mongering, shaming and bullying.
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Oct 26, 2017 - 08:41am PT
jgill
Boulder climber

The high prairie of southern Colorado

Oct 12, 2017 - 04:11pm PT
HRC on May 16, 2013, to the Brazilian bank Banco Itau:

"My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders, some time in the future with energy that is as green and sustainable as we can get it, powering growth and opportunity for every person in the hemisphere."

It's debatable what she really means.

Yes, it is debatable.
She was at a Green Energy Forum talking about having Green Energy crossing borders.
Nothing was uttered about having open borders for humans.

Yet! The right wingers took this out of context, weaponized it as a talking point LIE, and now we have what were once reputable people (not reputable anymore, unfortunately) parroting the weaponized form as fact to use against Hillary.

There is billion dollar industry of fabricating right wing lies to feed the right wing public with misinformation, people that listen to it are the most Misinformed people in America, but they don't care one bit, as long as they can shift the blame and hate the other side because of the lies they heard, they have no need to learn the truth.

The divide has deepened to near civil war proportions because of one thing, right wing media lying about liberals and Dems.

Do these people apologize for the lie that they repeated after finding out that is was a LIE?
Let's find out!
jogill

climber
Colorado
Oct 26, 2017 - 10:45am PT
It's easy to be diverted away from sinister developments affecting one personally to national scandalous behavior. My wife played cards with a group of several women at one of their homes yesterday. They were sitting around a table with their cards in hand chatting about spas and discussed briefly one in northern New Mexico. Then one of the women received a call on her smartphone and it was an advertisement for that spa.

True story.


Edit: yep
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 26, 2017 - 11:09am PT
John Gill - mitigation strategies:
1. Smartphones: disable microphone access for every app you can. Tough ones might be google hangouts and facebook messenger if you use those for audio/video calls

2. Don't buy a smartTV with a microphone and camera, or set what you can to disable it:
http://www.zdnet.com/article/how-to-keep-your-smart-tv-from-spying-on-you/
(and tape over the camera and mic if you can)

3. Don't buy voice-activated products like Amazon Alexa or Echo, or Google Assistant or Home



There is quickly coming a time where eavesdropping technology is omnipresent. The only way to avoid it will be to surrender connection to the modern world.


My laptop:
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Oct 26, 2017 - 12:24pm PT
It's easy to be diverted away from sinister developments affecting one personally to national scandalous behavior.

My wife played cards with a group of several women at one of their homes yesterday. They were sitting around a table with their cards in hand chatting about spas and discussed briefly one in northern New Mexico. Then one of the women received a call on her smartphone and it was an advertisement for that spa.

True story.


It's sad to see the ravages of age on the brain. IN THE SAME PARAGRAPH, a bold statement is made, then supported with a story that has NOTHING to do with the statement!

Is it inattention? Is it dementia? Is it the beginnings of "concrete thinking?"
zBrown

Ice climber
Oct 26, 2017 - 12:30pm PT
^Opere citato ?
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