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StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Aug 8, 2017 - 01:22pm PT
When is congress going to get off their lazy asses and impeach the SOB?

Seriously, we are being led by a 12 yr old school yard bully with no self awareness. Who wants him to have the nuclear codes? Is he dumb enough to think he is somehow intimidating them into submission with his tweets and apocalyptic rhetoric? They don't give a sh*t. Their leader is insane and they have nothing to say about it.

Hmmm...sounds like us.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Aug 8, 2017 - 02:15pm PT
Here's a link to a CNBC article comparing tax rates between Canada & the U.S. & what folks in each country get for their tax bites.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/heres-what-canadians-get-for-all-those-taxes-they-pay/ar-AApCtnZ?li=BBnbfcN

Taxes are similar, but benefits for Canadians are much greater, per the article.

"American marginal tax brackets aren't too different from Canadians', yet [Canadians] get universal health care and [Americans] don't." Currently, Americans pay $3.4 trillion a year for medical care and, unfortunately, don't get impressive results: "The U.S. life expectancy of 78.8 years ranks 27th. It has the fourth highest infant mortality rate in the OECD, the sixth highest maternal mortality rate and the ninth highest likelihood of dying at a younger age from a host of ailments, including cardiovascular disease and cancer," reports Bloomberg.

Per-capita health care spending in the U.S. is over $9,000.

By contrast, per capita health care spending in Canada is half that, or $4,500. Yet life expectancy in Canada is 81.7, and the country ranks 13th, significantly ahead of the U.S.

Critics of Canada's single-payer health care system call it a "cautionary tale," one that's "failing." It's universal and affordable, sure, but the quality isn't high. And the waits for procedures can be unnecessarily long: As Forbes points out, "In 2013, the average wait time for an MRI was over two months, while Canadians needing a CT scan waited for almost a month."

Overall, though, Canadians enjoy the kind of perks Americans only get if they work for the most generous, prestigious corporations. Those include free health care without deductibles as well as up to 18 months of subsidized parental leave when they have children.

They also enjoy access to high-quality education for children across the income spectrum. Even top-notch colleges and universities are cheaper than comparable institutions in the U.S.

But one thing the U.S. gets, is the world's biggest military.

As of April 2017, the U.S. spent $611 billion on defense, which, as the Peterson Foundation points out, is "more than China, Saudi Arabia, Russia, United Kingdom, India, France and Japan combined." Additionally, "the United States has historically devoted a larger share of its economy to defence, than many of its allies."

About one-half of all U.S. discretionary spending goes to the military
monolith

climber
state of being
Aug 8, 2017 - 03:31pm PT
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WBraun

climber
Aug 8, 2017 - 03:49pm PT
It's over We are screwed.

You were already screwed a long time ago by letting yourselves being brainwashed by 911.

You fools believe all that horsesh!t you're constantly fed by your corrupt govt in DC, and media ...
10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Aug 8, 2017 - 05:56pm PT
trump is deranged.

Trump is also a prime reason why I don't think anyone over the age of seventy should be president, and I don't care if they are liberal, conservative, or libertarian. There needs to be an age limit.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Aug 8, 2017 - 06:03pm PT
Some one please take the needle off the broken record that is Werner.
jstan

climber
Aug 8, 2017 - 07:41pm PT
The North's official Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) said its military was "carefully examining the operational plan for making an enveloping fire at the areas around Guam with medium-to-long-range strategic ballistic rocket Hwasong-12".

It said the plan would be reported to the Supreme Command after "full examination and completion" and put into practice at the order of leader Kim Jong-un, South Korea's Yonhap news agency reported.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/08/politics/lawmakers-trump-fire-fury-north-korea-mccain/index.html


When questioned as to what the US would do if someone did something, President Eisenhower responded. "The US government does not respond to hypotheticals."

The NK statement appears to posit a demonstration attack on Guam. They talk about "enveloping fire."

Eisenhower never told Hitler he was pissed. He just assembled all the thousands of ships and men needed to land on France. In line with this we might:

1. Quietly assemble all the radar assets, surface to surface missiles, and intermediate range missiles, to effect radar sensing of NK 24/7 sufficient to determine missile targets early in boost phase. Then tell China what they can expect should the US be attacked by NK.

2. If such an attack is detected intercepts in boost phase over NK territory might be made. At a ten to one ratio if that is what is required for high reliability.

3. Begin a Manhattan Project level effort to develop higher reliability exoatmospheric ICBM intercept capability. Including the ability to distinguish which warheads have the mass of true warheads.

4. Maintain 24/7 talks with China and Russia to find a way to deal with NK that is clearly not intended to affect the security of those two states.

5. Begin thinking more deeply about how the US can adapt to future Russian and Chinese policies. The thinking of those two states has changed radically as the US has begun its post WWII withdrawal from the international stage..

We need to recognize that things are changing. We need an endpoint strategy. Long term, will China disagree even with out presence in Guam? We have much thinking to do.

And finally long term, the US needs to put Bell Labs or its equivalent back together again.

rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Aug 8, 2017 - 08:03pm PT
Trumps fire and fury remarks aren't appreciated...Egging on North Korea's psychotic dictator is a piss poor strategy considering how low Trump's reputation with the rest of the world is.. Atta boy jack-ass...
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Aug 8, 2017 - 11:22pm PT
The whole star wars thing is as ridiculous today as it was in the 80's - it's not an answer or a solution.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Aug 9, 2017 - 07:17am PT
Can you run for president after being impeached and thrown out of office?
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Aug 9, 2017 - 07:17am PT
Our failed experiment of a nation needs a war, a huge one. It matters not who wears the presidential puppet skin. With the orange one there at least was a delay before he was ahem... reminded.... of who runs the show.
Bushman

climber
The state of quantum flux
Aug 9, 2017 - 07:28am PT
Being reckless with other people's lives is nothing to boast about or even consider. Many of us have family in the military and and we all live in the hot zone if nuclear war starts. Even with a conventional war tens of thousand of our South Korean allies and American service people over there would likely die. Keep your 1950's John Wayne Hollywood mentality to yourselves and do not play fast and loose with other people's lives. If you don't have a solution to avoid war, then zip It.
monolith

climber
state of being
Aug 9, 2017 - 07:31am PT
Gary, the senate can decide, as part of the impeachment trial conviction, to allow or not another presidential bid.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Aug 9, 2017 - 09:06am PT
So you Guys really think your going to impeach President Trump???

freaking laughable...


Props to Jstan for a well thought out post....

I offer another strategy. If China will not go in and liquidate fat boy....

then we should make sure that Taiwan has atomic weapons and missiles also.

I wonder how they would like that??????




Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Aug 9, 2017 - 10:30am PT
So you Guys really think your going to impeach President Trump???

No, Guy, we are not. The Republicans are going to get rid of him. He's totally derailed their agenda and is screwing them for 2018.

Do you honestly think there is a single Republican in congress who wouldn't prefer Pence in charge?

If they don't before 2020 I have $100 for the charity of your choice.

Gary, the senate can decide, as part of the impeachment trial conviction, to allow or not another presidential bid.

Thanks, monolith, I didn't know that.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Aug 9, 2017 - 12:36pm PT
If they don't before 2020 I have $100 for the charity of your choice.


I think you welched on other offers.... so I no take offer. I don't have time to go back over the taco and find in one if the deleted threads of a political nature.

If I am incorrect i apologize in advance.


you democrats are just grasping at straws- chasing smoke- as you have been ever scene that extremely flawed Clinton candidate was defeated at the polls... fare and square. If you all can not accept that fact you are un-american.

So keep on hurting our Nation it will survive despite you traitors.

and what comes around goes around.

end of story.
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Aug 9, 2017 - 12:43pm PT
TRUMP for President in,2020!

I know it's a little hard to tell, but I think Trump is our president now.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Aug 9, 2017 - 12:49pm PT
Come on guyman...


I know a bit over the top....

but nevertheless.... what the Democrats are doing... making up stories, inventing mud... is unprecedented in our history.

meth
10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Aug 9, 2017 - 01:00pm PT
Well, I guess there won't be a need for that wall anymore.
dirtbag

climber
Aug 9, 2017 - 02:08pm PT
I offer another strategy. If China will not go in and liquidate fat boy..

Which fat boy: ours or theirs?
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