California without undocumented

I've worked in the fields it's not that hard..

We don't need a de facto slave workforce to exploit

They put their own family at risk. And they reduce wages and increase job competition for legal workers. Those construction jobs you speak of? The industry has been decimated and good paying jobs lost because of illegal competition. Under the current left wing idea of "family values" we should not punish any criminal- for putting them in prison breaks up their families....

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Feb 28, 2017 - 01:36pm PT
They put their own family at risk. And they reduce wages and increase job competition for legal workers. Those construction jobs you speak of? The industry has been decimated and good paying jobs lost because of illegal competition. Under the current left wing idea of "family values" we should not punish any criminal- for putting them in prison breaks up their families....

At what point does it stop? The excuse of "breaking up families" will be used until our laws are enforced. And yes those laws need to be enforced among the employers hiring them.

I already explained employers should be held accountable.

RIBUNE’S VOICE Wednesday, September 8. 1965 MADERA DAILY TRIBUNE Page 4 ‘A-Team Program Botch-Up’
A good many people won’t quarrel with the aid government lias given the farmer, but a California Farm Bureau writer feels that the !'• S. Department of Labor should of stayed home this year when it “helped out” in the A-Team farm labor program. At least this is the general feeling §he found among growers participating in the A-Team (Athletes in Temporary Employment as Agricultural Manpower) program. The California Farm Bureau Monthly this month presents a factual account of the program’s operation in this state in the Stockton. Salinas and Blythe areas where the majority of the teams were employed. As the story tells, the Labor Department not only jumped on the bandwagon of California’s two-year-old program of employing youths in agriculture. “but also took over the driver’s seat without knowing the first thing about handling the vehicle. The result was a bungle which has left some growers as well as some A-Team members very bitter.” Complaints against the program listed in the article include: • The Labor Department did not take advantage of the experience the state has had in operating such a program. • Recruiters oversold the program to the young people. And growers were forced to take the A-Teams in order to meet criteria for the foreign supplemental labor they might need at a later date. • The A-Team program became one vehicle to be used by the Department of Labor in a “crash” program to prove that there are ample domestic people available to do farm labor. • A-Team members interviewed said they had been led to believe that this was a recreational as well as a work program that recreational facilities would be provided and that participants would be coached in sports. • Students were led to believe they would be guaranteed $1.40 per hour* regardless of their production. (In Salinas. after a training and trial period during which they received $l-40 per liour. A-Team members were placed on tpe going piece rate of $1 per flat of Worries. This the students didn’t like.) • Although they understood their food would cost $2.2.") per day. some
said they didn’t realize this was to be deducted from their wages. All interviewed said they hadn’t been told that insurance costs (social security, state disability and off-the-job medical insurance) would be deducted from their pay. • The youngsters said they didn’t feel that living conditions and food measured up to what they had been led to believe they would receive. • The growers were told they would receive junior and senior high school athletes accompanied by their coaches. They say they were also led to believed by the Labor Department personnel that if they cooperated in the A-Team program, they would also receive braceros this season. “Growers will tell you now that they were double-crossed on both counts.” • Growers had to foot the entire bill on the A-Team program, and it has been an extremely costly venture. • The productivity of the A-Teams w r as not on a par with the average qualified farm worker. Nat Scatena. president of the Stockton Growers’ Group, Inc., which managed the teams for growers in the Stockton area, ranked their productivity at 5b per cent of-that, of a qualified farm worker- • Salinas Strawberries will have lost about $75,000 out-of-pocket costs on this program by the end of the season. • Blythe Growers, Inc., estimates growers’ costs will run between $35,000 and $40,000 exclusive of wages and supervisory, state compensation and social security costs. • Dan Riggi, supervisor for the J & A Farms in Blythe, said his firm lost 40 per cent of its cantaloupes in the field. This year’s workers, including A-Teams, left that many melons behind in the fields, • The attrition rate among A-Team members was extremely high, one team quitting after three days and another after five. In summarizing her findings, writer Betty Yater wrote; “All-in-all. the A-Team program in California can only be described as a botch. California agriculture and the Farm Labor Division have a real job on their hands if they are to salvage their youth farm worker program for future years after the setback the nrocram received this year at the hands of the 11. S. Department of Labor.”

brave cowboy- your assuming they file tax returns. That's a big assumption

Illegals pay payroll taxes

The problem with that is that the documentation has changed so many times over the years that an employer cannot have a ghost of a chance of knowing whether they are authentic or not.

And it would be a "civil rights" violation and a guaranteed lawsuit to ask about citizenship.


Mandatory E Verify is the way to go.

Mandatory E Verify is the way to go.

BwaHaHa! I guess you don't know how the construction industry rolls.