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Mark Force

Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
Dec 6, 2016 - 08:42am PT
M Obama vs I Trump? A boxing match!

I'd watch.

The one I would have loved to see was Biden vs Trump. When Trump blustered about how he was ready to take Biden on.....

...yeah, I've seen that one before. Talks tough, but...
Mark Force

Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
Dec 6, 2016 - 08:47am PT
Why I Will Not Cast My Electoral Vote For Donald Trump

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/05/opinion/why-i-will-not-cast-my-electoral-vote-for-donald-trump.html
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Dec 6, 2016 - 08:49am PT
Biden is noted as relating well to the blue collar worker, and comes from a tough background.

If you consider Joe Biden as having come from a "tough background" then that would explain a lot.


When Trump blustered about how he was ready to take Biden on.....

Don't you mean when ole Double Barrel Joe said he would take Donald behind the wood shed or some such nonsense? Some of you are needed on the "fake news" thread.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Dec 6, 2016 - 08:53am PT
"If you consider Joe Biden as having come from a "tough background" then that would explain a lot."


You really are a waste of air, he is from Scranton/Wilkes-Barre area, coal mining country and very blue collared. For someone who spew so much you know so little.


Just someone for you to rag on for the next four years. Go wee man.
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Dec 6, 2016 - 09:07am PT
You really are a waste of air, he is from Scranton/Wilkes-Barre area, coal mining country and very blue collared. For someone who spew so much you know so little.

So, are we considering middle class as from a "tough background". With mommy and daddy to put him through law school, I bet the was tough indeed. I mean, to think he might have had to sell his corvette wedding present to get through school? The horror the horror.

What a bunch of retards.
dirtbag

climber
Dec 6, 2016 - 09:09am PT
Just ignore esco. He's not worth responding to.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Dec 6, 2016 - 09:09am PT
philo

Trad climber
boulder, co

Dec 6, 2016 - 07:58am PT
It happened because people are stupid.

Welcome back, dude..... We have missed your voice in this choir.

Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Dec 6, 2016 - 09:11am PT
"So, are we considering middle class as from a "tough background". With mommy and daddy to put him through law school, I bet the was tough indeed. I mean, to think he might have had to sell his corvette wedding present to get through school? The horror the horror.
"

I have no doubt he could kick your little ass into next week.


"Biden's father had been very well-off earlier in his life, but suffered several business reversals by the time Biden was born. For several years, the family had to live with Biden's maternal grandparents, the Finnegans.[13] When the Scranton area went into economic decline during the 1950s, Biden's father could not find enough work.[14] In 1953, the Biden family moved to an apartment in Claymont, Delaware, where they lived for a few years before moving to a house in Wilmington, Delaware.[13] Joe Biden Sr. then did better as a used car salesman, and the family's circumstances were middle class"

c wilmot

climber
Dec 6, 2016 - 09:23am PT
Interesting how the far left demonizes white males of privladge... unless it's one of their own. Much like how slick Willy's track record of being accoused of rape and flying on the "Lolita express" are ignored. Carry on- hypocrisy as usual
dirtbag

climber
Dec 6, 2016 - 09:28am PT
Strawman much wilmot?
patrick compton

Trad climber
van
Dec 6, 2016 - 09:42am PT
This guy is largely responsible for the Trump win

well worth a 5 minute listen

http://www.npr.org/2016/12/06/504520364/how-trump-waged-an-under-the-radar-ground-game
dirtbag

climber
Dec 6, 2016 - 09:55am PT
It is so surprising (ya) how conservatives here who beat their chests about Hillary's crookedness are silent with respect to the massive and obvious personal financial conflicts confronting the incoming trump administration.
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Dec 6, 2016 - 10:07am PT
I have no doubt he could kick your little ass into next week.

What, you are a surrogate internet tough guy now? So typical to see the liberal tards talking like they know the plight of the downtrodden and the minorities only to reveal their true reference points around what constitutes a "tough childhood".

fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Dec 6, 2016 - 10:25am PT
Uncle "Shotgun" Biden might have had a normal childhood but he has had some bad sh~t kick him in the gut as an adult... Couple of dead kids and a wife I believe...

Not that any of that should speak, at all, to his qualifications. It does mean at least we know he's probably a human being compared to some of these other Sith..... For instance, he's not surrounded by scores of murdered and suicided ex-friends and business associates.


Mark Force

Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
Dec 6, 2016 - 10:26am PT
Escopeta, I think you watch too many cartoons. People come in more than 2 dimensions.

Interesting how the far left demonizes white males of privladge...

There's absolutely nothing wrong with privilege, but then I'm an old privileged white guy and not a lefty. My observation is that is a gross generalization made from cherry picking your sampling.

The problem that I have is that a good percentage of white males of privilege think their privilege gives them a free pass on being an as#@&%e.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Dec 6, 2016 - 10:28am PT
Welcome back, dude..... We have missed your voice in this choir.


It's definitely not Philo. The Colorado W.O.T. never wrote sentences that short in his life.
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Dec 6, 2016 - 10:35am PT
Allusions to movies or books of fables still make the point.

Cheney, Kissinger, Rumsfeld, etc... seems apt...

Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Dec 6, 2016 - 10:38am PT
Dude you are clueless...Where I lived and when to high school. Of course not as tough as white bread Idaho.


"For Darby,PA, we found that the violent crime rate is one of the highest in the nation, across communities of all sizes (both large and small). Violent offenses tracked included rape, murder and non-negligent manslaughter, armed robbery, and aggravated assault, including assault with a deadly weapon.'



fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Dec 6, 2016 - 10:42am PT
Darby was a nice place 25-30 years ago. I had relatives who lived there who owned homes. It's since be gobbled up by the sprawling not-so-brotherly-love metroplex and currently in shambles...

A lot of places in PA were like that a few decades ago, just working-class lower-middle-class neighborhoods. Well kept up back then.

Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Dec 6, 2016 - 10:47am PT
I have no doubt Esco is a little wanker who never did anything in climbing but mouth off and somehow managed to find this site to try to be a internet tough guy, takes a lot of balls to shoot your mouth off on the internet under a anonymous title.


Fear, what were there names? It was lower middle class, total blue collared fill with a lot of tough African-Americans, Italians, Irish and other immigrants. It was always considered the other side of tracks. Glad I lived there, taught me a lot on how to live with others.
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