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SusanA
Sport climber
Bay Area
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 4, 2016 - 06:26pm PT
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Ok maybe I should not be starting a thread about politics but I want to try something and this place seems like it might work....
It's a survey and a game too. Here are the rules:
1) The first word of your first response must be yes or no. Nothing else. After that you can say what you want EXCEPT
2) You can't mention any candidates or anything about the election. I know the question came from one of the candidates but I think it is an interesting question to ask without getting personal.
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SusanA
Sport climber
Bay Area
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 4, 2016 - 06:28pm PT
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Yes
That's my answer, following the rules. I think America is not perfect but it is great. It's a beautiful country even though I have not seen as much as I would like to see. And it has beautiful people. I could go on but that should give everyone an example.
EDIT: Thanks for voting cragman!
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Climberdude
Trad climber
Clovis, CA
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Yes and No. The people of US are great and the politicians are pieces of sh!t.
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SusanA
Sport climber
Bay Area
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 4, 2016 - 06:32pm PT
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I think you bent the rules there, I didn't plan on anyone being clever ....but thanks for participating!
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Yes. This is the greatest in the world (which I've actually seen much of). Slipped from what exactly I'm not sure. The world and its economy have changed. Some fail to recognize that and think time can be reversed.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Yes!
We hope to see you at COR this summer to celebrate!
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skitch
Gym climber
Bend Or
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Yes! Let's keep the progress of the last 240 years moving forward!
Real national healthcare, more money into education and get the f*#k out of other countries wars!!!
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c wilmot
climber
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No. I have never seen so many homeless people as I do now. And in places Where there previously was no visible homeless population
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nah000
climber
no/w/here
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yes. [absolutely].
has America's greatness been predicated on and driven by foundational fundamentals that have necessitated expansion and therefore [economic] empire?
has said expansion reached its effective limits?
does this new reality mean that America therefore requires significant reformation to some of its foundational fundamentals if it is to retain its greatness?
yes.
yes.
and yes.
[absolutely].
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Yes
But can remain so only if we and future generations adhere to and continue to value the founding principles that made it so. The contemporary scene is full of very powerful forces that are dedicated to transforming the country away from those founding principles into a radically revamped version of the nation that most people would not recognize if it were ever to come to pass -- which it will not.
These powerful forces are growing increasingly desperate because growing numbers of Americans are waking up to their modus operandi -- lies, distortions, exploitation, arrogance, self-aggrandizement, and world class narcissism.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Yes. Both hemispheres.
Is China great?
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Ward, I hope you're voting for Hillary.
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Hillary Clinton!
Last but not least: Trump Blocker.
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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No! Aspiring to greatness is a huge waste of resources and time...
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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It is very good. It would take some effort to be great.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Yes. Of course it is. That hasn't changed one iota.
What blows my mind is that there is a slimeball sociopathic narcissist that has made the central meme of his campaign 'Make America Great Again', as though it's no longer great.
Hell, look at this thread- even the most ardent conservatives say 'Yes', America is great...yet they stand behind a candidate that has ZERO political leadership experience, is rife with business failures, and has used misogyny, xenophobia, and racism as central divisive elements in his campaign.
WHAT KIND OF DELUDED IDIOT COULD THINK THAT KIND OF SH#T MAKES AMERICA GREAT?
And how in the world can anyone be so hypocritical in their human and religious ideals as to support a person like Trump as their Country's leader?
Want to make the US Not Great? Vote for Trump.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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America is AWESOME!!
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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^^^
Deluded. (Didn't mention a candidate).
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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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Yes!
It's the self-congratulatory way that we define great. Like me, and my extraordinary insane strength of mind! God loves me and has chosen me for salvation! Suck it Obama, you little girl who soiled his panties.
What are we gonna do - say that we suck, say that we're the ones who are pathetic? Unlikely, even for the best of us.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Yes
Greatness is not defined through material wealth or power. Greatness ultimately comes from how we treat the less fortunate of both this country and the rest of the world. Most of the worlds problems are a direct result of people treating other people badly in the quest for material wealth and power.
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