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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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May 12, 2016 - 09:27pm PT
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Geeze Roy.. I was in on that filter dig to China...how come i don't remember you...? I had just come back from Royal Gorge after doing a 50K race...I was pretty spent from the race and ended up shoveling into the wee hours of the morning as i recall...I was sitting in the lodge hallucinating from exhaustion...Great dittli photo...donner shoveling party...that was a huge winter lots of snow and lots of snow in Don's nose...I think i remember Randy...? Reddish hair...?
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Tarbuster
climber
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May 12, 2016 - 09:29pm PT
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That's right. Red hair. He was a big Peter Gabriel fan.
I had forgotten you were on that dig. You and I really didn't know each other, until we went down to Joshua Tree (?) together. Probably not long after the dig out in fact. When we got back to the lodge after the dig, we were all heroes!
The 50 K Royal Gorge race rings a bell. I think I remember just how blasted you were after that epic. And yes, reporting hallucinations!
IIRC, you were a conscript for that detail.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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May 12, 2016 - 09:43pm PT
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Finding that filter box was like finding a needle in the haystack...Amazing...I wonder if that car you were digging out was Rick Thomases girlfriend Perry...? I think that's her subaru...? God i suddenly feel old...Do you remember the cabins that were converted into Eagle and hawk cages...? Millis and Ball were the elder statesman...what a pair...Ball died in a ultralite crash....Wish i had known you better....
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Tarbuster
climber
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May 12, 2016 - 09:53pm PT
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Yes, John ball and Debbie Jo had a big ass hawk enclosure right inside their cabin!
I knew about John balls death. Death by flying! How apropos for him. But way too young. He told me I would become an interesting old man. Working on it!
Rick's girlfriend, maybe from the following year, I don't recall her name, but she was a real looker and a good person.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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May 12, 2016 - 10:10pm PT
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Perry was Rick's GF....They got married moved back east i believe...Bumped into Debby Jo on the green church road last summer...she was with a bird watching group by the ponds and i was pedaling the bike and had stopped to see if the group had seen any rare birds...Debby Jo ID'd me immeadiately and we conversed...Cool lady..
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 12, 2016 - 10:13pm PT
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Debby Jo ID'd me immeadiately
That is so tempting!
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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May 12, 2016 - 10:17pm PT
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Don't hold back Reilly...!
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Russ Walling
Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
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May 12, 2016 - 10:23pm PT
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Hey! Get a room snow bunnies.... this is a buggery channel!!
Break with some buggery or bugger off.
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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May 12, 2016 - 10:40pm PT
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This baby's gonna' break 1000 easy.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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May 12, 2016 - 11:04pm PT
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Damn Roy, I love threads like this because they fill in all sorts of blanks for me. I'm not even sure where the f*#k Tamarack Flats is. In the late 70's and all through the 80's I was dipping in and out of so many scenes at so fast a pace it was impossible to keep track of what was happening where. The fact that even when I was around I stayed on the margins didn't help much, either. What really strikes me is how The Evergreen State College crowd spread out into every nick and cranny of the climbing world. By the time I took that photo of Jane I'd already known her for seven or eight years.
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L.A. Woman
Social climber
Pasadena, CA
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May 13, 2016 - 12:20am PT
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Roy,
I'm lagging...10 more school days. Totally agree with the 8 TLC's...not into traditional education.
Can adversely effect health and creativity. There are plenty of awesome kids out there with the same philosophy.
Most of them have great parents ; )
Craig,
Read the question wrong...I'm not much of a climber, but my twin sons, like most of us, went through a major partying phase in high school and early college. At almost 23 yo, they are completely drug free/sober and I had nothing to do with it. They're like "been there, done that". They both have a zeal and curiosity for life. Both are surfers living in HI. One is doing the firefighter, EMT, paramedic thing on Kauai, the other is an environmentalist currently being hired by DLNR on the Big Island. I'm a proud momma : )
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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May 13, 2016 - 01:14am PT
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This baby's gonna' break 1000 easy.
And I still don't quite know anything about the Sheep Buggerers! wtf. And am I the only living SoCal climber who never spent a single night at Todd's house? In fact I only remember going there once for a couple of hours, in 1985 I think. You guys need to dumb this thread down for me. If that's possible.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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May 13, 2016 - 06:31am PT
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Ha ha. Good one Russ. Take a seat! … (classic Russ-ism)
I know you were kidding.
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Good call though, now that we can sight the crest of 1000 posts, a SYNOPSIS is in order!
This thread is about a lot more than just the Sheep Buggerers, who are: Russ Walling a.k.a. The Fish, Doug Munoz a.k.a. Mooney, Greg Byrne a.k.a. The Driver, Kent Sparks a.k.a. the Manx.
It's about their influences, which is why I've written about the Stonemasters here. It's also about the prevailing culture and everyone else who was around Josh in the mid-to-late 70s and throughout the 80s, which is why BVB is here.
I've written about my pilgrimage to Mammoth Lakes in spring of 1980 (in order to position myself close to Yosemite), Walter Rosenthal, and the Drywall Dogs, which is (tangentially) why there is a picture of Mammoth Jane, and is partly why RJ is here.
Rosenthal was in a slideshow given by Clevenger, which Munoz and I attended, which heavily influenced us at the time, 1976 or 77, and I've told that story here.
Hell, I'm not a Buggerer and I'm here! But I grew up with the Moon Fuzz, a prime Buggerer, and we started climbing together in 1974, so I've written some about our adventures together as kids. There is a story here about my father, who influenced a bunch of us with his hilarity!
It's also about the Joe Boys, analogs to the Buggerers, who predated the Buggs by a couple of years. The Joe Boys are: Jeff Sewell, Larry Stone, John Freriks, Dave Bruckman, Tony Montiel, and me, initially ... then, Tom Smith.
It's about Erik Eriksson, who was a mentor to just about everybody in both groups! And his girlfriend of the time, Vikki Vernola!
There has been mention of Keith Cunning and the Uplanders, contemporaries of the Joe Boys.
We've covered, in brief, the San Fernando Valley crew: Bullwinkle, Jessica Perrin, Guy Keesee, Nick Badyrka, Shawn Curtis, Mike Waugh, Jan McCollum, Dan Hershman, Mike Pope, Scott Loomis a.k.a. The Old Man, Bob Kamps ...
We didn't forget the BRB a.k.a. the Big Rock Boys: Kevin Powell and brother, Tim(?) Powell, Darrell Hensel, Dan Ahlborn.
Also, those swank dudes who routinely splintered off from the San Diego based Scumbags: Bob Van Belle, Mike Paul. And Epperson and Alan Nelson, because they were there.
Plus, Alan Roberts a.k.a. The Voice of the Crags, Maria Cranor, and Lynn Hill, kingdoms unto themselves!
We have input here from Team B, who are Craig Fry, Dave Evans, Randy Vogel, and Spencer Lennard … (Spencer, who we have yet to hear from).
Last but not least, there is the dynamic duo of Mike Lechlinski & Mari Gingery, immediate disciples of the Stonemasters (we were ALL disciples of the Stonemasters), who are featured here because Mike a.k.a. Mo, NAMED the Buggerers!
[Edit: whoops, apparently, as the reader will note in subsequent posts, Largo named them. Mea culpa. But Mo sure helped to popularize the term, as that's who I first heard it from. And Mo did once refer to Russ as "The Caustic Fish" and on several occasions, "The Butthead"...]
Tamarack Flats is in Yosemite Valley. Tamarack Lodge and Resort is adjacent to Mammoth Mountain, comprising a lodge, a bunch of dilapidated summer cabins pressed into winter service, and a Nordic skiing center. I spent the winters of 1983 and 1984 working there, saving money to go climbing.
And besides, we all loved the Eastern Sierra a.k.a. the Eastside, and couldn't get enough!
http://eastsidesports.com/eastside/
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There are your cliff notes to the Sheep Buggerers of Josh, BVB.
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 Tarbuster and the Moon Fuzz, racked and ready for their first Grade VI, 1969:
(1969, this is the same year of the story which I told way up-thread, FOUR ON THE MOUNTAIN, about our hike up Mount Wilson at nine years old)
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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May 13, 2016 - 09:36am PT
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ekat...i did numerous trips to the filter when Norm owned the place...I wonder if the gallon of Tamalax forced him into diaper mode...?
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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May 13, 2016 - 09:57am PT
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And then there was Connie Tobia, Jane Sievert's partner in crime.
photo, Doug White
Connie was from New Jersey and became a contingent of the Olympia crew. Connie and I dated and climbed for a period in 1982. She was a natural climber and could hang with the culture. Sometimes Russ and I would bug Shawn Curtis and Connie would join in, calling him The Weenis.
Shawn hated that! "I'm not the Weenis! I'm not the Weenis!"
photo, Doug White
Connie, Tarbuster, The Fish, Mike Paul, Dimitri Barton, Glacier Point, 1982:
Photo, Shawn Curtis
Sadly, both Shawn and Connie are now gone.
RIP Connie Tobia
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1454593/RIP-Connie-Tobia
RIP Shawn Curtis
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/75081/RIP-Shawn-Curtis
Images of Shawn Curtis
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=1376031&msg=1377128#msg1377128
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Tarbuster
climber
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May 13, 2016 - 10:16am PT
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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May 13, 2016 - 10:33am PT
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I tried to entice Spencer to post up
But the hook wasn't baited properly
I will try again
I sure wish DE would tell us the "Walk on the Wild Side" story
If I told it, I would definitely get some more shit
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L.A. Woman
Social climber
Pasadena, CA
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May 13, 2016 - 11:17am PT
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Roy,
Thanks for the buggerers synopsis. I've got to dig out that old
Climbing magazine with the SD Bouldering article in it...love the pics
of E : ) I think he came in 2nd place that day. I have photos somewhere.
I'm going to put a statement out there...I believe that JL named the buggerers,
not Mo (Lechlinski) BITD. The Fish gave me the name The Creature,
Creeeeech, (Ho Man! Who are those guys, it sounds like they're
buggering a bunch of sheep!) Fish called E Springs...most likely because
of the hair. Anyone?
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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May 13, 2016 - 11:20am PT
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Russ
I checked your choice of a reunion site
looks good
I'll see you there
I might have back up plan in case of rain
My Largo nickname was the "tall sleek Newfie"
Ho man!
I never had a fish nickname
none of us Team B got fish nicknames
They just used our last names
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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May 13, 2016 - 11:38am PT
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