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Reilly

Mountain climber

The Other Monrovia- CA

Mar 31, 2016 - 10:48am PT

Since 1979 I have only had SIX computers

That's probably the same for me and I'll bet you a large sum that mine in
total didn't cost what two of yours did and they did the same damn thing-
waste lots of time. Oh, wait, I almost forgot, mine also made me money
and the software I needed wouldn't run on an Apple. Now, of course, it
would but, again, I would have to spend 3x what a good Intel costs.

I'm glad you enjoy yer Koolaid.

Jaybro

Social climber

Wolf City, Wyoming

Mar 31, 2016 - 10:51am PT

Um, It's been some years since I've been unemployed Dingus... Maybe you're thinking confusing me with someone else....

It seems you just described your own retirement job.

And I'm sure Reilly, that you enjoy taking six times as long to do anything with your computers.its your past time, after all.

Dingus McGee

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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2016 - 10:54am PT

Rilley,

Apple is for people that cannot figure out anything except how to lay down the credit card.

Reilly

Mountain climber

The Other Monrovia- CA

Mar 31, 2016 - 10:57am PT

Jaybro, you've seen me work? Really? I actually type pretty fast!
This post only took me four or five minutes!

Dingus McGee

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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2016 - 10:59am PT

Jaybro,

maybe I did get you confused with Goat Boy Smells, Wes Fox or possibly Jay Jerkowitz?

Curt

climber

Gold Canyon, AZ

Mar 31, 2016 - 11:15am PT

What anti-virus software do you like these days? What does that cost--besides being a pain in the ass? Apple costs more for the same reason a Porsche costs more than a Yugo.

Curt

Curt

climber

Gold Canyon, AZ

Mar 31, 2016 - 11:16am PT

Apple is for people that cannot figure out anything except how to lay down the credit card.

And for people who actually like having things that work.

Curt

Dingus McGee

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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2016 - 11:53am PT

Apple costs more for the same reason a Porsche costs more than a Yugo.

That crap, big crap. Why are they sitting on $200 billion? They have tailored a group of bend over receivers that can rationalize anything [expense] from the sales pitch and made them dedicated believers.

Do some rational economic analysis: you are paying to much for the product.

DMT:

I have an ipad6. Great for getting on the internet. Photo Skins tones -- unreal-- pure flattery. Not very good at complicated cut & paste of text. Even expert Jaybro could not figure out how to do the
transfer. But then another Apple expert said you cannot do that with apple.

No better than my Dell Windows 8 compact laptop. With the Dell I can access all my Rs232 connected gadgets without have to put a router on them. Both computers do a good job emulating my HP48GX.

Why am I do down on Apple--they sold by lying a security system they never had. Evidence: that phone could not have been hacked if security was soo good. It is as old trick IBM did with Control Data.

zBrown

Ice climber

Mar 31, 2016 - 12:22pm PT

As Bo Diddley said "you can't judge a book by it's cover".

Curt

climber

Gold Canyon, AZ

Mar 31, 2016 - 12:23pm PT

They are sitting on $200 billion (or whatever their current cash level is) precisely because many people agree with me. Here is some rational economic analysis for you:

"Fair market value is the price at which a product or service would change hands between a willing buyer and a willing seller, neither being under any compulsion to buy or to sell and both having reasonable knowledge of relevant facts."

Economics 101

Curt

healyje

Trad climber

Portland, Oregon

Mar 31, 2016 - 12:26pm PT

How much will they charge Apple for the secret to how they did it?

There's no 'secret' of any kind around how Cellebrite cracked the phone - apple knows exactly how they did it, so does most of the tech community involved with this aspect of physical device security at the chip level, i.e. it's a well-known technique, it just requires precision.

apogee

climber

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy

Mar 31, 2016 - 01:00pm PT

The sh#t just works better than PC's. Or Droids.

I've used them both, and Apple is waaaay better.

YMMV, obviously.

Dingus McGee

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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2016 - 01:29pm PT

Curt,

forget: Economics 101? I see your learning ended here?

The law of supply is a fundamental principle of economic theory which states that, all else equal, an increase in price results in an increase in quantity supplied.[1] In other words, there is a direct relationship between price and quantity: quantities respond in the same direction as price changes. This means that producers are willing to offer more products for sale on the market at higher prices by increasing production as a way of increasing profits.[2]

Note this law says nothing about quality [except maybe

all else equal

]. Reliable quality of information on the quality of a product is as hard as ever to obtain in this web page culture of self proclaimed authorities. Such info is useful in making rational microeconomic decisions.

Dingus McGee

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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2016 - 01:48pm PT

DMT,

yes, the ipad works fine taking it over the same routine daily. But When I do some thing wrong[program drivers and all together] and get error code 32 on the Pc I can google it, find fixes and be back on track. With Apple it just hangs up and Apply people just say, oh apple can't do that.
The Apple computer offers No lead as to the problem encountered. Yes, there may be apple people out there like you say [that know it all] but most of the time asking apple people advice is like someone trying to get direction in Mexico from a local.

As werner has said; YMMV So if you get the service level you seek at a rational cost. Great.

My complaint is falsifying phone security. Apple is well known for sending fixes later on a not-yet-fully-developed operating system... whose properties they are already selling.

Don't be bashing HP handheld calculators. They were the best ever... you know RPN, Forth etc. They are worth emulating. As for HP laptops -- thumbs down. As for Dell -- My brother outfitted his EE lab with some 25 --a lont time ago. Dell has gotten a better position in the herd since then.

Dingus McGee

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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2016 - 02:04pm PT

fivethirty,

yes googling is really fun with no lead.

Dingus McGee

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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2016 - 02:22pm PT

fivethirty,

if I was a contractor I'd get a sweet Makita, not a Ryobi

.

You are so fukkking clueless -- I suppose you seen the pic of me holding the ryobi and generalized that that is what I use.

see: A Drill-Off Challenge: 18v Makita vs. 36v Bosch on this site by Dingus McGee. I was first on the block to have the 18v Makita -- excuse me you probably had shitty diapers on then.

Do your research dude!

Dingus McGee

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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2016 - 02:38pm PT

fivethirty,

for me Ryobi opened the door for dilling enough holes in the back country per day so show some route production. I starting getting asthma from motor smoke and Ryobi parts were no longer available for those drill models.

The Chinese made a 6Ah 18v Makita fitting battery will drill an abundance of holes and no smoke. I have a fleet of 30 Makita batteries and even used them in series to power an ebike.

The Makita 18v beat the Bosch 36v drilling holes vertically in quartzite on three test.

Curt

climber

Gold Canyon, AZ

Mar 31, 2016 - 03:37pm PT

Dingus, my point is that if Apple products were "overpriced"--as you claim, people would not buy them. Citing the relationship between price and quantity is quite pointless without also including demand.

The most basic laws in economics are the law of supply and the law of demand. Indeed, almost every economic event or phenomenon is the product of the interaction of these two laws. The law of supply states that the quantity of a good supplied (i.e., the amount owners or producers offer for sale) rises as the market price rises, and falls as the price falls. Conversely, the law of demand (see demand) says that the quantity of a good demanded falls as the price rises, and vice versa. (Economists do not really have a “law” of supply, though they talk and write as though they do.)

http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Supply.html

Curt