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Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Feb 11, 2016 - 04:39am PT
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Welcome to Portland Cliven. Oh, your sons? They're over here. No, they're not going to the refuge in the morning. Yes, you can stay at the same hotel they're in.
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dirtbag
climber
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Feb 11, 2016 - 05:10am PT
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Nice work. It's time to end this nonsense.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Feb 11, 2016 - 05:22am PT
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Crimpie posted Lois was many things, but I don't think she'd throw around the word 'retarded' (or derivatives of it) like this poster has.
Yup. That's part of what convinced me it wasn't her. Also I don't think she'd ever claim to be an economist.
Escopeta posted That appears to describe pretty much our entire legislative and executive branch to a tee...
Get it? Because government!! HA!
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dirtbag
climber
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Feb 11, 2016 - 05:26am PT
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It's not Lois. Esco is close to a flat out government hater; Lois advocated, among other things, for single payer Heath care and a fairly interventionist foreign policy. Also, their writing styles are very different.
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Feb 11, 2016 - 05:51am PT
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Oh, no. It's Lois. This convinced me:'
Threats equal threats. Violence is violence. Threats do not equal violence. I'm not saying they can't both be illegal, but even in the eyes of the law they are not equal. That's why they have two different words to describe them.
Happiegirl, I have no idea what the comment of "Violence is as much the energy as the action." means. But I assure you, there is a vast difference between the threat of a gun shoved in your face and actually getting shot in the face. Nightmares notwithstanding.
If the threat of violence is enough to qualify the oregon idiots as terrorists then fine. But trying to claim that the fact they carried guns makes them terrorists could easily be viewed as a rationalization meant to support your position.
Hey, I like Lois. She got the short end of the stick IMO.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Feb 11, 2016 - 06:08am PT
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They didn't just 'carry' guns. They used them to accomplish illegal activities such as blocking roads on public lands. Does anyone think this guy would be the slightest deterant against the feds if he didn't have his gun?
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Feb 11, 2016 - 06:16am PT
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About as effective as the Occupy WS people were.......which was the genesis behind asking what the difference was.
Nothing more than an adjective apart...
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Feb 11, 2016 - 06:16am PT
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That's none other than Sean Anderson himself, one of the Fab Four who is supposed to be surrendering in a couple hours.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Feb 11, 2016 - 06:19am PT
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No guns, and the takeover would have been over in a few days.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Feb 11, 2016 - 06:59am PT
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Now the feds should go liberate Cliven's cows off the range that
he's not paying for. . .
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Feb 11, 2016 - 07:02am PT
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Haha wow. Just when this thread was about to die it gets new legs!
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Feb 11, 2016 - 07:17am PT
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Blew past 2K posts in the middle of the night. nobody noticed.
3K easy...
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franky
Trad climber
Black Hills, SD
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Feb 11, 2016 - 07:32am PT
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Climber barbeque at red rocks. I know where to get a whole cow for cheap.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Feb 11, 2016 - 07:36am PT
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KGW LIVE FEED!! No paddy wagons in sight yet, but the Fab Four supposed to turn themselves in at 8AM.
The Fab Four is MINE by the way!! I never saw it in reference to these guys before I started using it. Mine mine mine...heh heh heh....
http://interactive.kgw.com/mobile/breaking-video-2.html
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WBraun
climber
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Feb 11, 2016 - 07:45am PT
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The cop car is idling between the white barricades wasting govt. gas.
Every drop is itemized in the USA data base.
They're so stoopid.
All they need is to get MOM to walk in there and slap em on the back of their heads and then drag em out by their ears .....
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Feb 11, 2016 - 07:47am PT
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Clive Bundy had been somewhat sane despite the crazed actions of his sons at Malheur.
I am pleased to see that he finally lost it yesterday, drove to Las Vegas, & jumped on a plane to Portland, just like he wasn't a known & wanted domestic terrorist.
He also posted the following quote on the Bundy Ranch Facebook page:
Bundy Ranch
12 hours ago
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WAKE UP AMERICA!
WAKE UP WE THE PEOPLE!
WAKE UP PATRIOTS!
WAKE UP MILITA!
IT'S TIME!!!!!
CLIVEN BUNDY IS HEADING TO THE HARNEY COUNTY RESOURCE CENTER IN BURNS OREGON.
Dumb, real dumb. He obviously has created his own strange reality. He'll have a lot of time to think about it now.
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dirtbag
climber
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Feb 11, 2016 - 07:52am PT
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Along with Finnicum's suicide by cop, I'm sure bundy's arrest will further rile up the kooks.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Feb 11, 2016 - 07:55am PT
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From the [recording on the previous page]:
"Come out with your hands up!"
"You're going to have to shoot us!"
They should just siege the road, nothing goes in. Get them when then come out.
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dirtbag
climber
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Feb 11, 2016 - 07:59am PT
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Stupid idiots, I hope the governments (fed, state, and especially local) puts liens on whatever hardscrabble plots of land, trucks, etc. that these dunces own to help pay for the messes they've created.
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