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survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jan 29, 2016 - 08:05am PT
This is the best footage I've seen. It shows the initial stop on the white pickup, 7 minutes or so of no one getting out of the rig before Finicum speeds off. Lots of close-ups.

9:20 is about where he hits the roadblock. You clearly see him reach for his pockets more than once. 9:30 he's down. Then you see the flash bangs going off. It does appear that you can see rounds hitting the truck after that. In the 10 minutes following, you finally see the other occupants get out 1 at a time and go into custody.

http://katu.com/news/local/fbi-finic#m-nearly-struck-agent-reached-for-loaded-weapon-before-he-was-shot-and-killed

Amazing drone footage. Gotta be a drone, a chopper can hover and would have no reason to continue to obscure its own vision with trees. This thing continues to circle slowly no matter what is happening on the ground.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 29, 2016 - 08:18am PT
given the rate of pursuit, air time, and quality of video, I don't see any way that's a sUA. Not to mention that if it turned into a long distance chase a manned vehicle would be required. There's also not a single person on the ground that appears to be an operator.
10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Jan 29, 2016 - 08:21am PT

given the rate of pursuit, air time, and quality of video, I don't see any way that's a sUA. Not to mention that if it turned into a long distance chase a manned vehicle would be required. There's also not a single person on the ground that appears to be an operator.

It was a plane.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jan 29, 2016 - 08:22am PT
Hmm, wonder what it is then? There's no hovering apparent, only a constant slow counterclockwise circle, with plenty of adjustments to zoom and focus.

A plane makes sense. Looka me, jumping to conclusions. My mistake.
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Jan 29, 2016 - 08:23am PT
Sponge bullets hit the trucks after flashbangs. Less than lethal but persuasive.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jan 29, 2016 - 08:40am PT
edit: 10b4me looks to be correct:
http://cincinnatibell.net/news/read/category/US%20News/article/afp-armored_vehicles_roll_into_oregon_refuge-afp
WBraun

climber
Jan 29, 2016 - 08:44am PT
The FBI clearly said "Plane"

"The FBI did have a plane in the air, and what I am about to show you is a video from that plane."

Maybe it wasn't?
Chewybacca

Trad climber
Kelly Morgan, Whitefish MT
Jan 29, 2016 - 08:45am PT
I wonder if the FBI will release any more footage. At least one of those vehicles must have had a camera running.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jan 29, 2016 - 08:55am PT
Maybe it wasn't?


SO MANY FALSE FLAGS
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Jan 29, 2016 - 09:00am PT
Unless a plane can stop and hover it must have been a helicopter.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Jan 29, 2016 - 09:12am PT
PLANE DOES NOT TAKE OFF
HermitMaster

Social climber
my abode
Jan 29, 2016 - 09:43am PT
"Hands' up. Don't shoot."

[Click to View YouTube Video]
dirtbag

climber
Jan 29, 2016 - 09:48am PT
Actually, stay in the f*#king truck. Then keep your hands out of your pocket.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Jan 29, 2016 - 10:02am PT
Here's how it's done...

Subject in vehicle attempts to circumvent road block.

FBI agent on foot sees attempt, then traverses into oncoming path of vehicle.

Story reads: (Subject) "nearly hits an FBI agent."

...

Story does Not Read: Subject in vehicle, in attempting to avoid hitting FBI agent who places himself in front of moving vehicle, incapacitates vehicle in deep snow.
Gary

Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
Jan 29, 2016 - 10:19am PT
He was heading into the roadblock. The officer saw him, and tried to jump out of the path. The driver then drives into the snow trying to get around the roadblock.

You really think the officer was deliberately jumping into the path of that truck?
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Jan 29, 2016 - 10:25am PT
There was an old man
Named LaVoy Finicum
He had a loaded gun
Reaching for it was dumb
The Feds blew them off
And blew them on again
Poor old LaVoy Finicum

Too early?
Flip Flop

climber
Earth Planet, Universe
Jan 29, 2016 - 10:34am PT
I don't see him trying to stop at all. I see him trying to get around at speed.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Jan 29, 2016 - 10:38am PT
I swear this thread's proof human IQ is indeed 100, ST forum's IQ probably 10-15 points lower.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jan 29, 2016 - 10:40am PT
Luckily we have brain surgeons like you to guide us.
Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber
Jan 29, 2016 - 10:42am PT
To give the guy the benefit of the doubt, although I really find it hard to believe he wouldn't have anticipated a road block up the road, he came around the curve and had only an instant to react.

Instinct would tell a person to avoid smashing into hard, heavy, metal objects and go for the softer impact. Bicyclists on the road well know that a damned car driver will often run THEM off the road instead of risking hitting an oncoming vehicle, even though they could kill the cyclist. Instinct is self-preservation.

I don't know if the guy was trying to evade the block; maybe someone in the vehicle would be able to say. But without that sort of first-hand information, one can only guess.
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