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Fritz
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Choss Creek, ID
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Dec 12, 2015 - 02:53pm PT
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Jim: Neil Young's Cortez The Killer. Nice melody, but hard to dance to. It has some lies too.
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jstan
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Dec 12, 2015 - 02:54pm PT
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zB:
Thanks for that text. In the sixteenth century et subs the religion followed by the Spaniards worked hard to destroy records possessed by the original peoples. We have discovered those peoples possessed extensive interest and knowledge of astronomical events. European diseases caused huge changes in their population but there was little effort to document these changes. Similar intertribal conflicts existed among north America's original peoples but I have not seen whether that culture antedated the time of the Trail of Tears. We pretty much destroyed their original living conditions and we may have caused what later transpired on the plains.
As to effects long presumed to have been due to overpopulation only a little can be said. A more recent population crash in the Sandwich Islands left archeological traces some of which even I have seen. Large areas of the Napali coast have had every available foot terraced for agriculture and records have been left by seafarers who made landfall in the 18th century. Overpopulation seems to have been endemic in polynesia. Extensive systems of canals for agricultural purposes are seen on the coast of northern Chile but I don't know when and why they fell into disuse.
Really important questions have been asked on this thread. I am sure at least some answers can be found given enough real interest.
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C4/1971
Trad climber
Depends on the day...
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Dec 15, 2015 - 06:06pm PT
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Took a brand new Airstream down to Aticama (Nayarit) last winter for three months, and then an additional month in Todos Santos (Baja Sur). No problems despite traveling in a Faberge Egg of aluminum.
There are bad decisions to make anywhere.
That said, this winter is in southern Arizona.....no transito here.
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bbbeans
Trad climber
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Dec 16, 2015 - 01:41pm PT
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Super sad. :( Sounds like resisting a robbery cost these two their lives?
Hopefully there is surfing in the Great Beyond.
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