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Todd Townsend
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Bishop, CA
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It serves the purpose to help me understand the Reality behind all the media spin about Unarmed Blacks being killed by Police, and the risk to each Black individual in the general population. The deaths are rare and over-sensationalized in our Media driven lives.
I think we might disagree on the definition of "rarity" and "risk." While it's true that being killed by police is still a relatively uncommon way of dying, our cops kill far more people each year compared to other developed countries when adjusted for population. I'd argue that that makes it still a too common occurrence.
As far as risk goes, black people are more than twice as likely to be killed by police than white people are, when adjusted for population. It is this disparity (in addition to trying to reduce the total number of police killings) that the Black Lives Matter movement is trying to address. Whether or not you think this is over-sensationalized in the media is likely a matter of perspective. I'd suspect that most BLM activists don't feel that the issue gets nearly enough media attention.
For anyone seriously interested in this subject, I'd highly recommend checking out the Guardian's interactive database on police killings: The Counted.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/jun/01/the-counted-police-killings-us-database
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jody wrote: @ Bob d'idiot Antonio, cop killings are down due to better training and overall competence. To say the job is less dangerous because fewer cops are killed is like saying there are fewer accidents because people are wearing their seatbelts and not dying.
Who said it was less dangerous chubby?
But you do know crime is down, especially violent crimes.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Cops killing innocent people has dropped in jurisdictions that have adopted body cameras. Obama's fault, again
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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Define "innocent".
Well, let's see. Dude gets roughed up and cuffed for selling cigarettes. He dies from it.
Pretty much every breathing person who ends up dead from being roughed up and cuffed, and yes, I mean roughed up for no reason.
When you guys cuff people these days, you are trained in all sorts of ways to inflict pain and overcome the individual. That dude who was selling smokes died from it, despite saying that he couldn't breathe a dozen times.
The DA would call that manslaughter at the least, if one person had done that to another person. Cops get much more latitude.
Where I live, our cops are great. The don't beat mentally ill people to death. Remember that guy in Orange County? Kelly something?
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The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
Sep 5, 2015 - 11:39am PT
Yes we are happy Jody that cop killings are down under Obama.
Jody is the idiot for posting this crap...cop killings are down...period.
And supposedly "Black Killings by Cops" are up under Obama?
Gee, shows where your POTUS's priorities are at. Cares more about Cops than his own Brothers and their neighborhoods.
Thanks BOBDA for reminding us all of that.. FACT!
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Even if you have done nothing wrong otherwise yet fail to comply with a cop's orders and do something suspicious and stupid and get yourself shot you aren't exactly innocent.
you are EXACTLY innocent. The opposite of innocent is guilty.
The police are in charge of enforcing laws. What law is someone guilty of that requires their execution? So all people who are mentally challenged (remember that half the population has an IQ of less than 100), who probably consistantly do stupid things, particularly when under great stress, have committed an offense punishable by immediate execution?
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The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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Rather Interesting video just released....
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Here's the "Training" the Black Lives Matter Activist supporter Reverend speaks of that he went through. Eye Opening to say the least.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfi3Ndh3n-g&feature=share
The training that all you wanna-be nobody live out in the desert or no where near the combat zone hood shetwhinners should ask to go through to see how you all would react in the same every day scenario's that all cops go through daily. Day in and day out.
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patrick compton
Trad climber
van
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I, Patrick Compton would comply.
But...
I am white, not mentally ill, not on drugs. Ive had a good life without having to live in constant fear of police, gangs, etc that is daily life for low socioeconomic people not as lucky as me.
Cops that kill often escalate the fear response of an already stressed out suspect. Why?
Its called perspective taking. Try it sometime.
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10b4me
Social climber
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Even if you have done nothing wrong otherwise yet fail to comply with a cop's orders and do something suspicious and stupid and get yourself shot you aren't exactly innocent.
Wow!
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The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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Its called perspective taking. Try it sometime.
Since you appear to be far more versed at these type situ's than I ever could be, please do share one of your experiences where your ass was on the line in a split seconds notice in a situ of this type.
Cops that kill often escalate the fear response of an already stressed out suspect.
Have you ever been in any situ where you had to terminate another human being there Compton?
I am white, not mentally ill, not on drugs. Ive had a good life without having to live in constant fear of police, gangs, etc that is daily life for low socioeconomic people not as lucky as me.
Apparently not. Thank you for letting us know that your opinion is therefore a completely moot one regarding this issue. As you have absolutely ZERO experience in ever being is such a situ.
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Just need to add the the "white" point adds to your completely moot opinion. Twice as many "whites" are killed annually by the police than are blacks.
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The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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Because LOcker, I have clipped into your shitty ass placed anchor bolts that in fact pulled right out with a single tap of a hammer.
Next typical glue motivated post, LOcker..
Edit: No drums, no anything heard anywhere. Wait. I hear something that perfectly fits your posts just to the tee LOcker....
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The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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Why are you posting a UK's puppet paper BABda?
Why not post Obama's DOJ and FBI stats.
Here's 2015 alone...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States,_2015
OH.... I know why.
Peter Moskos, an assistant professor at New York City University’s John Jay College of Criminal Justice, has concluded that during the period ranging from May 2013 to April of 2015 roughly 49% of those killed by LEOs were white, while only 30% were black.
Investigators from ProPublica came about with similar findings using FBI data from 1980-2012. Even the fact-checking PolitiFact concluded that more whites than blacks had been killed by police from 1999-2011.
But there are many incidents where whites are killed by police which go unreported. Gilbert Collar, for example, a white 18-year-old University of South Alabama student, who was naked, unarmed, and high on drugs when he was shot and killed by a black officer.
Why, if black Americans commit more violent crimes, are more whites killed by police?
Moskos suggests two reasons. First, police assigned to largely black communities face “more political fallout when they shoot, and thus receive better training and are less inclined to shoot.” Secondly, officers assigned to black neighborhoods are more accustomed to dangerous situation and thus more likely to attempt to find a non-lethal solution.
While statistics may help us to learn the truth about things we believe we perceive, the media is only interested in fanning flames. Stories that don’t play the race card just don’t get the same ratings.
The last sentence pretty much sums up most of the BOBda's here.
You too LOcker.
Are there more white or black people in America and could that have ANY thing to do with it???...
"Yer GONNA die!!!"... IF.... you clip a LOcker placed bolt!!!!!!!!
Fixed it for ya, LOcker.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Someone seems to have an issue with reading.
"About half the victims were white, half minority. But the demographics shifted sharply among the unarmed victims, two-thirds of whom were black or Hispanic. Overall, blacks were killed at three times the rate of whites or other minorities when adjusting by the population of the census tracts where the shootings occurred.
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The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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NO BOOOBDA...
Where did I ever mention anything of the sorts.
Talk about total FAIL reading comprehension..
Here is my original post BOOBda,
The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
Sep 5, 2015 - 02:24pm PT
Its called perspective taking. Try it sometime.
Since you appear to be far more versed at these type situ's than I ever could be, please do share one of your experiences where your ass was on the line in a split seconds notice in a situ of this type.
Cops that kill often escalate the fear response of an already stressed out suspect.
Have you ever been in any situ where you had to terminate another human being there Compton?
I am white, not mentally ill, not on drugs. Ive had a good life without having to live in constant fear of police, gangs, etc that is daily life for low socioeconomic people not as lucky as me.
Apparently not. Thank you for letting us know that your opinion is therefore a completely moot one regarding this issue. As you have absolutely ZERO experience in ever being is such a situ.
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Just need to add the the "white" point adds to your completely moot opinion. Twice as many "whites" are killed annually by the police than are blacks.
Again BOOBda, thank you for verifying the opinion I posted by an individual that does this for a living and NOT someone that lives in the north NM desert, drills holes in rocks, places bolts in em, sprays about all them bolts he's drilled/placed and photographs birds all day. ie, you, BOOBda.
Peter Moskos, an assistant professor at New York City University’s John Jay College of Criminal Justice, has concluded that during the period ranging from May 2013 to April of 2015 roughly 49% of those killed by LEOs were white, while only 30% were black.
While statistics may help us to learn the truth about things we believe we perceive, the media is only interested in fanning flames. Stories that don’t play the race card just don’t get the same ratings.
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The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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Gotta blame someone for the completely asinine totally bias distorted political bullshet BOOBda and Craig Fry post on here.
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