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Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Sep 5, 2015 - 08:43am PT
Talk in G.O.P. Turns to a Stop Donald Trump Campaign

By NICHOLAS CONFESSORESEPT. 4, 2015
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/05/us/politics/talk-in-gop-turns-to-a-stop-donald-trump-campaign.html?_r=0

Quiet conversations have begun in recent weeks among some of the Republican Party’s biggest donors and normally competing factions, all aimed at a single question: How can we stop Donald Trump?

Republican strategists and donors have assembled focus groups to test negative messages about Mr. Trump. They have amassed dossiers on his previous support for universal health care and higher taxes. They have even discussed the creation of a “super PAC” to convince conservatives that Mr. Trump is not one of them.

But the mammoth big-money network assembled by Republicans in recent years is torn about how best to defuse the threat Mr. Trump holds for their party, and haunted by the worry that any concerted attack will backfire.


In phone calls, private dinners and occasional consultations among otherwise rivalrous outside groups, many have concluded that Mr. Trump’s harsh manner and continued attacks on immigrants and women were endangering the party’s efforts to compete in the general election. Yet after committing hundreds of millions of dollars to shape the Republican primary contest and groom a candidate who can retake the White House, the conservative donor class is finding that money — even in an era of super PACs and billion-dollar presidential campaigns — is a devalued currency in the blustery, post-policy campaign fashioned by Mr. Trump, driven not by seven-figure advertising campaigns but by Twitter feuds and unending free publicity.

“People are somewhat perplexed by the whole Trump phenomenon,” said Ray Washburne, a Dallas businessman who is Gov. Chris Christie’s finance chairman.

So far, according to the Campaign Media Analysis Group and a Republican media buyer, there has barely been any advertising targeting Mr. Trump. Out of $90 million worth of ads reserved or bought in the Republican primary, just $1,300 has been spent attacking Mr. Trump — an ad in Spanish that ran briefly in California that was sponsored by a Spanish-language television network.

The Club for Growth, which has spent millions of dollars on feisty intraparty campaigns attacking Republican candidates who deviate from conservative economic orthodoxy, appears closest to moving against Mr. Trump, soliciting advice from among its members and researching potential lines of attack.

The group helped torpedo the populist presidential bid of Mike Huckabee, the former Arkansas governor, in 2008, and has long been a thorn in the side of Republican leaders — making it, many Republicans believe, a credible foil to Mr. Trump.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Sep 5, 2015 - 08:56am PT
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/252825-poll-trump-beats-hillary-head-to-head
HermitMaster

Social climber
my abode
Sep 5, 2015 - 10:16am PT
The RealClear Politics Average is just that. An average of many of the polls out there.

It doesn't show the latest trends.
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Sep 5, 2015 - 10:35am PT
so, we're adding jobs at about 200,000 per month, so problem fixed in 4 months.

Jorge Ramos said 30million illegals cross each year.. Ken work on ur math
Norton

Social climber
Sep 5, 2015 - 10:39am PT
Jorge Ramos said 30million illegals cross each year.. Ken work on ur math

got a source you can post showing that Ramos said that?
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Sep 5, 2015 - 10:41am PT
"Jorge Ramos said 30million illegals cross each year.. Ken work on ur math"


Hilarious.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/flow-of-illegal-immigration-slows-as-us-mexico-border-dynamics-evolve/2015/05/27/c5caf02c-006b-11e5-833c-a2de05b6b2a4_story.html


"As the Department of Homeland Security continues to pour money into border security, evidence is emerging that illegal immigration flows have fallen to their lowest level in at least two decades. The nation’s population of illegal immigrants, which more than tripled, to 12.2 million, between 1990 and 2007, has dropped by about 1 million, according to demographers at the Pew Research Center."


Blame Obama.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Sep 5, 2015 - 11:28am PT
Jody wrote: Bob d'idiot Antonio wrote:


Hitting the wrong keys again Jody.


How that socialist retirement fund going for you?


Jody wrote: Did you note my clarification on the drop ion MC income under Obummer?


Yes and like always you are wrong.

""Income progress was broad and robust through the Reagan and Clinton years and stopped abruptly during the Bush and Obama administrations," the report states.

Most households saw their income stay steady or decline from 2002 to 2013. The only exceptions were households headed by college graduates and those headed by people in their 20s.

The average household was hurt by the technology revolution that put a premium on highly educated workers and the economy's globalization, which pushed wages down for less-skilled workers, according to Shapiro."

guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Sep 5, 2015 - 12:12pm PT
""Income progress was broad and robust through the Reagan and Clinton years and stopped abruptly during the Bush and Obama administrations," the report states.


Bob, that seems true for me........ I would like to read that report, got a link????

Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Sep 5, 2015 - 12:14pm PT
Here you go...http://www.newsmax.com/Finance/StreetTalk/Income-Obama-Reagan-Clinton/2015/03/10/id/629286/
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Sep 5, 2015 - 12:18pm PT
Obama is right...http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/income-inequality-taxes-growth-wealth/2014/12/09/id/611912/

Redistribute the wealth.
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Sep 5, 2015 - 12:23pm PT
Jody wrote:"contractor, quit asking stupid questions".

In golf, it's called "handy capping".
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Sep 5, 2015 - 12:39pm PT
Jody wrote: Okay Bob, you win. Obama is the best leader this world has ever seen. Things have never been better.


No, FDR is my choice.
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Sep 5, 2015 - 12:39pm PT
https://youtu.be/0J6bfVnW4fQ

Jody, the multiple personal conflicts you are engaged in and the rapid firing of insults has me worried that this all gets you exited.

Just talk this out in a reasonable manner.
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Sep 5, 2015 - 12:43pm PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]

Just wanted to repost some funny ladies
Norton

Social climber
Sep 5, 2015 - 01:28pm PT
sarcasm may be fun

but prove you above post about Obama wrong, Jody

taxes have never been lower

unemployment is down to 5.1%

the economy has fully recovered from being in RECESSION when he took office

tens of millions of Americans now have healthcare who did not before

no more of our boys are dying in Iraq in a "nation building" failure under Republican Bush

on and on

facts, Jody, not bias

and all done against the most defiant Republican opposition that you continue to vote FOR

really, you ought to ashamed of your critical thinking skills
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Sep 5, 2015 - 01:30pm PT
bob here is ur link on the 30million Jorge posted

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2644858/Ready-For-Bernie


ur source for the news... :)
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Sep 5, 2015 - 01:51pm PT
Home run, Norton. Indisputable facts.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Sep 5, 2015 - 01:51pm PT
Jody wrote: Norton, look past the talking points and rhetoric and actually delve into the facts a little deeper and you will find that all is not what it seems. the "lower" unemployment rate is one example. Look into the factors that enabled the administration to come up with that number.


Norton, you have to understand that Jody was/is completely happy with Bush and his record on employment.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
Sep 5, 2015 - 01:54pm PT
Norton, I think Jody is dyslexia.



HermitMaster

Social climber
my abode
Sep 5, 2015 - 05:33pm PT
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