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zBrown

Ice climber
May 10, 2016 - 06:49pm PT
I told y'all he is a chameleon.

Trump Campaign Picks Nazi as Delegate, Drops Him After Backlash


Johnson, who leads the neo-Nazi American Freedom Party, was selected as a delegate for California on Donald Trump's slate, Mother Jones reported Tuesday, despite openly espousing extremist, white supremacist politics in his application to become a delegate.

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Trump-Campaign-Picks-Nazi-as-Delegate-Drops-Him-After-Backlash-20160510-0049.htmlegate, Drops Him After Backlash**
kattz

climber
May 10, 2016 - 07:07pm PT
Trump is a rapist!!

hide yo kids, hide yo wife!

Huffington post said so!
Larry Nelson

Social climber
May 10, 2016 - 07:10pm PT
JEleazarian posted

It's no accident that we stereotype the post office and the DMV as models of boorish, slothful employees with indifferent customer service (which is wildly unfair to many of those employees, but that's a different subject).

It is unfair to the many great employees, but the perception is still there.
Here is a diagram that sums up how incentives, or lack of incentives, drive spending behavior.

Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
May 10, 2016 - 07:11pm PT
You got that right

His ex-wife claimed that Donald brutally raped her UNDER OATH in a court deposition

Donald Trump's Ex-Wife Accused Him of Brutally Raping Her


gawker.com/the-time-donald-trumps-ex-wife-accused-him-of-brutally-17211...

Jul 30, 2015 - During Donald Trump's 1992 divorce proceedings, his wife provided a ... Donald Trump's Lawyer Is a Marital Rape Truther Donald Trump's ...


But he is above the law, so was acquitted.
There is a story about him raping a 13 year old, but wasn't sure it was legit.

what other of the 100s of crimes that has he committed should we discuss?
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
May 10, 2016 - 07:13pm PT
And hide your husbands too cuz' he's rapin' everybody up in here.
kattz

climber
May 10, 2016 - 07:15pm PT
I bet the crowd who's bothered by his "mocking of disabled guy" are the JE SUIS CHARLIE ...hahaha....where political correctness is a one way street I guess
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
May 10, 2016 - 07:16pm PT
NOOOOOOOOOOOOooooo
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
May 10, 2016 - 07:16pm PT
So you think a POTUS should have a history of such comments and gestures, eh, kattz?
kattz

climber
May 10, 2016 - 07:18pm PT
So many pictures mocking Trump himself are made....by the same ones who pout at him supposedly mocking some guy who crossed the line and is way out there with his lies...so I guess it's a rough world out there and his disability isn't going to be a magic blanket...it works both ways

Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
May 10, 2016 - 07:20pm PT
Should have we just bowed down to Hitler and not challenge him?

Same thing kattz

it works both ways alright, but one way is top down,
the other is bottom up

Bully vs. victims of the bully

The bully needs to be mocked and muzzled
for the good of the many
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
May 10, 2016 - 07:24pm PT
Oh yeah making fun of a guy for a terrible haircut and a spray tan is exactly the same as making fun of someone with a serious disability. SMH.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
May 10, 2016 - 07:48pm PT
what other of the 100s of crimes that has he committed should we discuss?

What? They're all non-crimes, since by your "lights" he's not been convicted of anything.

Can't have it both ways. If ya like smoking guns, both he and Clinton have 'em in spades. If ya don't like smoking guns, then be consistent and quit bagging on Trump for non-crimes.

If we're going with smoking guns, then Clinton's directly affect her in-office credibility and integrity. Trump's don't, as he's never been in office.
lostinshanghai

Social climber
someplace
May 10, 2016 - 07:49pm PT
Jesus too slow started to right this and stopped had a few errands come back and 100 post behind the times.

Anyway

“Clinton destroyed evidence (wiped, by her own assessment, at least half of her emails from her server) in the face of a Congressional subpoena, pending FOIA requests, and a pending FBI investigation (that was public knowledge at the point she did so). Destroying evidence in that context is itself a felony. One does not need to be a "legal scholar" (as if even they agree on interpretation) to know this.”

I like that one. Tell who has not: Nixon except for a few tapes, His fixation on the left especially anyone against the Viet Nam war were targets; all police, special operation groups spying and the like shredded tons. Reagan and his buddy Meese [Meese had his own lists of people spied on] Ronny famous “Iran/Contra” about 7 others with Latin Countries and CIA documents. Carter the one I know of is at the embassy when it was being overrun and those were not shredded very good since the new youth guards pieced back together. * note now everything the government shreds is then fired to ashes and placed in cement. * lessons learned.

Bush one and two, Haliburton Oil disaster as well in in Iran/Iraq and Libya during and current wars.

Corruption that is why elected people get in office, the higher you go, the higher the rewards. Stealing, killing, blowing up places so we can get what resources not you or me but people like Meese in Reagan’s term. He asked Israel in returns for favors of course not to blow up a pipe line that he had interests in the area we are now fighting in. President Cheney?
Need I go on…………… oil in the Black Sea.

Happens with every election: Promises, dreams, everything going to get better, better health…..

As for Benghazi it happens? Ambassador Stevens was told not to go and knew about the warnings on his life, Red Cross and USAID left well before since they knew something was about to happen. rocket-propelled grenade and heavier weapons were used to breach the wall mostly likely the ones we were trying to buy back/smuggle from Libya to anti-Assad rebels in Syria that was the reason plus a few other for the CIA being there and a few merc contractors. The rocket that used could have used to breach the wall might have been ours? Was evidence shredded?

I remember well during the Tet Offense we were told to stand down and not fire. If we needed to fire we were told to first ask for the order to our Captain first, he then radios it back to his next commander, then that commander passes info to his next superior and then all of it gets sent to the US. There they discuss it and if it sounds like a yes they would tele back saying Ok! That order goes to #4, #4 says to #3, #3 says to #2 and then we finally can fire. Real smart right. Well, we said screw that since a unit from another company was being overrun and needed help then not waiting 3 hours later for some shithead politician back in the states. We intentionally played with our radio by hitting the button on the mike as if it was cutting off and half to three quarters of the conversation was not heard or partly heard. like We saved some but not all of them. The next day we had some really nice guys that were screaming at us wanted to look at the radio since we said must have had a bad connection or you guys had problems. I can’t recall what happened but they did not get the chance to see it. They went back still screaming and yelling, guess we were put on a sh#t list. We were.

Happens all the time, raid or the killing of Osama bin Laden guys had the same issues, politicians. I can recall when a marine fired on a building when he was firing at someone running with a weapon of course and a few rounds went through the door and killed a woman and a couple kids or?. It was all over the news, radio commentators right and left saying how could this of happened and the shame this marine was put under. Sacramento had a radio talk show you could call in; they were more to the right but a hair close to the middle but sometimes good to listen to once in a while just so happened they were talking about it and I called in with a similar experience when I was in Nam. Before they put it on or would broadcast it on the air you told the story first, they get a lot of crank calls and the such. Sure enough they broadcasted my story, asked questions, how I felt then and about the marine. Pretty much what I said came to the real point, they sent me a nice letter saying that it changed both of their views on the subject. it wasn’t like the rightwing radio shows today that blast sh#t now 24 hours 7 days a week.

Just under an hour goes by the time Defense Secretary Leon Panetta gets the information so same no help. Except for the CIA guys that were told not to go.

Like this is something new to Americans who are 90% clueless about foreign policy. They know more about Dancing with the Stars, game shows and programmed shows when to laugh the ones when a word or two and the canned laugh is added in every 3 secs another three words and added laughter.

Some Canadians get it. This one is from an editorial cartoonist that lived in Victoria B.C at that time. We would have lunch together a few times. Times Colonist I believe 1979 “Adrian Raeside” I need to find it again seems the small print on the far right bottom is unreadable.











Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
May 10, 2016 - 07:58pm PT
agree
apologize
deny
forget all negative information

He does have compassion.

go back to worship


what about the lying 91% of the time
more denial?
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
May 10, 2016 - 08:05pm PT

madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
May 10, 2016 - 08:34pm PT
Tell who has not

Ah, the old stand-by: Everybody does it.

The difference is that we found out about "the others" after the fact.

In Clinton's case, we have a candidate, one we're not yet committed to, and this time we know in advance what she truly is.

Another difference is that she believes that there is no such thing as accountability for her, so she can be as flagrant as she pleases and then joke about it.

Sadly, about half the people in this nation agree with her.

Sadly, this entire election comes down to voting "against somebody" rather than voting for somebody. Worst choices in my lifetime.

Sadly, given the prisoner's dilemma game of elections, I can't count on the majority to repudiate both major parties and vote third-party. If I could believe that others were as prepared as I am to repudiate both parties, I would vote third-party. But I can't believe that.

So, like everybody else, I see that the only rational thing to do is vote against what I take to be the greater evil. Of course, as just stated, you are all going to do the same thing. May the lessor of the evils win.
Norton

Social climber
May 10, 2016 - 08:40pm PT
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crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
May 10, 2016 - 08:42pm PT
Hyperbole.

If people payed attention to the issues, tuned in to listen instead of parroting oddball conspiracy theories, the choice would be clear.

Hillary talks specifics on the issues. Trump makes it up as he goes.

The debates will be telling. He's going to get murdered.
lostinshanghai

Social climber
someplace
May 10, 2016 - 08:46pm PT
Ok! Klimmer guess as always can’t figure out anything, gave you info on the strange missile or the island that US lets companies play with their toys for defending as in maybe using laser testing to see if will work on an incoming missile not to blow it up but to redirect so as to fall in the water then it again it could be just contrails excuse me chemtrails you say.

The lady in question is Mary Kay Letourneau sister to Joseph Schmitz. Who? is Joseph Schmitz he is Trumps foreign advisor. What has it do with this? Corruption. Look what he does or did or could still do.

Just google his name.

As for the Panama Papers 38 Americans, there is one that has to do with Iraq just have to wait to see if these guys included with the same grouping, remember the millions or was it billions in US cash disappear.

Where did it go.

Funny no news, no big noise about it wonder why? I can speculate but will wait for a couple of months for more info to see. Trump still has not said anything as on foreign policy sure he gave a speech about it but was a joke and said nothing except will get every ISIL/ISIS. He thinks they are holding up and hiding in one area. Problem they will be and are all over the place waiting till the right time.

Erik Prince Under Investigation Again March 28, 2016 by Ed Brayton

Erik Prince, founder of the infamous mercenary company Blackwater and heir from a prominent right-wing Michigan family, is once again under investigation for a number of serious crimes, including money laundering and offering mercenary services to countries under sanction by the United States.

What began as an investigation into Prince’s attempts to sell defense services in Libya and other countries in Africa has widened to a probe of allegations that Prince received assistance from Chinese intelligence to set up an account for his Libya operations through the Bank of China. The Justice Department, which declined to comment for this article, is also seeking to uncover the precise nature of Prince’s relationship with Chinese intelligence…

The Intercept interviewed more than a half dozen of Prince’s associates, including current and former business partners; four former U.S. intelligence officers; and other sources familiar with the Justice Department investigation. All of them requested anonymity to discuss these matters because there is an ongoing investigation. The Intercept also reviewed several secret proposals drafted by Prince and his closest advisers and partners offering paramilitary services to foreign entities.
For more than a year, U.S. intelligence has been monitoring Prince’s communications and movements, according to a former senior U.S. intelligence officer and a second former intelligence official briefed on the investigation. Multiple sources, including two people with business ties to Prince, told The Intercept that current government and intelligence personnel informed them of this surveillance. Those with business ties were cautioned to sever their dealings with Prince.
Despite the provenance of FSG’s funding and Prince’s history of bad publicity, Prince was able to recruit an impressive line-up of former U.S. military and intelligence officers to run the company. Key to Prince’s ability to retain such personnel, given FSG’s ties to China, has been the firm’s strictly circumscribed mission, which does not include military-related services. FSG is a publicly traded aviation and logistics firm specializing in shipping in Africa and elsewhere. The company also conducts high-risk evacuations from conflict zones. Prince has described his work with FSG as being “on the side of peace and economic development” and helping Chinese businesses to work safely in Africa.

But behind the back of corporate leadership at FSG, Prince was living a double life.

Working with a small cadre of loyalists — including a former South African commando, a former Australian air force pilot, and a lawyer with dual citizenship in the U.S. and Israel — Prince sought to secretly rebuild his private CIA and special operations enterprise by setting up foreign shell companies and offering paramilitary services, according to documents reviewed by The Intercept and interviews with several people familiar with Prince’s business proposals.

Several of the proposals for private security services in African nations examined by The Intercept contained metadata in the digital files showing Prince and his inner circle editing and revising various drafts.
Since 2014, Prince has traveled to at least half a dozen countries to offer various versions of a private military force, secretly meeting with a string of African officials. Among the countries where Prince pitched a plan to deploy paramilitary assets is Libya, which is currently subject to an array of U.S. and United Nations financial and defense restrictions.

Check out www.cfnp.org should be up your ally a lot of religious nuts on it check names. Funny Wiki took rewrote and left some things out but he has or persons that can do that. Can’t trust wiki.

*note:

St post: “Time to fire some Generals”

Oct 24, 2013 - 04:57pm PT

Next wars or current are run by the CIA and will in the Future.
Two teams of 6 Americans X 2 with special skills and will be using $2.00 a day Africans: Chad, Senegal, Swaziland.

CIA will subcontract Erik Price baby [Blackwater fame] R2 Reflex Responses for the dirty work.

*note funny that charges against Blackwater have been dropped or less charges with no jail terms, a hundred fine.

Drones manufactured and armed from same area: Africa.

When on a journey in that area or Asia as for climbing carry a bible. That way Price might not shoot you.

CJTF-HOA, ACOTA, AMISOM

This way VA will have less work on no returning troops plus savings on giving candy out to win the hearts and minds.

*Ok! he changed R2 Reflex, became XE, academi others after selling Blackwater and created new ones FSG often for a good reason. As for being a subcontractor I miss calculated since he is now a rouge CIA creating his own merc army. But hey! I was close.

This will create more problems since anything that looks like an American with guns, helicopters, drones the people will always think it as US intervention making it worse.

Pat Robertson will endorse Trump for sure. “Blood Diamonds” again coming to a town or city, country near you, not giving out candy on this one. Pat has a business there as well, used the money he scammed about god from old and naïve people that believe anything he says. He predicts a lot of things but not one of them came about or true when he talked to god and god tells or talks to him every day. $$$$$$$
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
May 10, 2016 - 08:48pm PT
The scale of the email malfeasance by W's administration and the gop at the time was orders of magnitude more egregious in scope, scale and behavior once called on it. Clinton's email escapades utterly pale in comparison. Yet not a single madbolter1 email post in 2008-10 - where was all the hyperbole and outrage then?

The administration officials had been using a private Internet domain, called gwb43.com, owned by and hosted on an email server run by the Republican National Committee, for various communications of unknown content or purpose.

During the investigation into the firing of eight U.S. attorneys, it became known White House staff was using Republican National Committee (RNC) email accounts. The White House stated it might have lost five million emails.

In 2009, it was announced that as many as 22 million emails may have been lost.

Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson alleged that his wife's identity was covert and that members of the George W. Bush administration knowingly revealed that information as retribution for his New York Times op-ed entitled "What I Didn't Find in Africa," of July 6, 2003, regarding the claim that Saddam Hussein was seeking uranium. However, as Plame had been serving in a desk job at Langley for more than five years, she was not considered “covert” under the meaning of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act.[24] Patrick J. Fitzgerald, while investigating the leak, found that emails were missing from the White House server.
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