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Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
May 10, 2016 - 02:58pm PT
The problem IS THAT the CIA TOLD her what to say
They told everyone to tell their official story, that's how National security works
that's the plausible reason, don't like it, too bad

was she supposed to disobey orders??

such a pathetic line of reasoning you're running with

which was the truth and which one was the lie John?
I think you still got it backwards

are you blaming the deaths of those there on HER????
why not blame the terrorists, like a normal person.
dirtbag

climber
May 10, 2016 - 02:59pm PT
Back to trump bashing.

Apparently, one of his California delegates has openly advocated deporting anyone with "negro blood."

http://www.vox.com/2016/5/10/11652822/donald-trump-delegate-white-nationalist

Don't they know how to google these idiots? Or are the Trump people trying to gently embrace them?
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
May 10, 2016 - 03:26pm PT

High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
May 10, 2016 - 03:28pm PT
lol!
zBrown

Ice climber
May 10, 2016 - 03:42pm PT
Lest you all forget.

Heidi told the campaign’s “National Prayer Team” during a conference call, “God does not work in four-year segments.”
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
May 10, 2016 - 03:50pm PT
However, as pointed out above she is not the first Secretary of State to use one, yet she is the only one receiving criticism.

Please name others.

Oh, if you're thinking Powell, he had a private account but not server. I'd have to look it up, but it was on one of the big providers, Yahoo, Gmail, or something like that.

There is a huge, huge difference! For one thing, Powell could not in principle wipe his past emails. As we all know, the providers are themselves subject to subpoena, so the FBI could have in principle gotten ALL of the emails, including the deleted ones.

No, Clinton knew this, and she was determined to not only delete but wipe, and you need your own server to have that level of control.

This is beyond "looks bad," and it's why this thing is not going away.

This is her very, very clearly assuming absolute control over the information-flow, which is the very thing the law disallows. No other Sec-State did what she's done. It's not a "quantitative" difference; it's a qualitative difference. That's the answer to your question of why it's being investigated and viewed by tens of millions (including me) as substantively different from what the likes of Powell did.

Oh, and BTW, Powell did catch a lot of flak for what he did, which makes it all the more intentional (and amazing) that Clinton far-and-away upped the ante with her behavior.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
May 10, 2016 - 03:57pm PT
Religion continues to be a barrier...

Locker, welcome to the side of reason.
Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM
May 10, 2016 - 03:59pm PT
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/05/donald-trump-white-nationalist-afp-delegate-california
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
May 10, 2016 - 04:02pm PT
Religion; used and abused. A comment on Jeremiah Johnson's Trump Prophesy from https://avemariaradio.net/prophecy-donald-trump-shall-become-the-trumpet/

A Note from Al:

I remember a major Pentecostal prophet in 1992 delivering a prophecy rebuking Christians who were opposing Bill Clinton. This prophecy caused a rift among Christians. He claimed that Clinton was God’s man for major change in this country including abolishing abortion. Again, this 1992 prophet was highly respected. He wasn’t some local aspirant who might get a word from God that sounded like this: “Thus says the Lord, I am the Alfalfa and the Omega.” This Jeremiah Johnson is also respected. But who will hold him responsible for invoking God falsely to justify his political miscalculations?

Catholics may not exercise the principle of church discipline or excommunication as often as they should. But at least, in principle, it could be done. In this case, the prophet would simply go off and start another ministry.

Read this prophecy and thank God for apostolic authority in the Catholic Church that can, in principle, say Nay to this “prophet.”

-Al Kresta
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
May 10, 2016 - 05:05pm PT
Tell your prophet that if Trump gets elected, he'll only serve 1260 days of his term. So apparently the antichrist works in 3.5 year segments.

the great tribulation begins 3.5 years after the Antichrist "makes a covenant with the many" (Daniel 9:27), in the middle of "Daniel's 70th week." The 70th week is a reference to Daniel 9:24, where each day of the week corresponds to a year (for a total of seven years). After the first 3.5 years, the Antichrist will make himself known with the abomination that causes desolation, and he will reign for 3.5 years (42 months or 1260 days). The latter half of the 3.5 years is characterized by the Antichrist deceiving the world and persecuting the church.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prewrath
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
May 10, 2016 - 05:13pm PT
Now that Trump won the primary, he has to pay back the loans he took from himself to fund his race.

So he's looking for corruption/bribe money from big money donors to help him WIN!!

Donald Trump is now accepting the kind of big-money donations he thinks corrupts politicians

by Jeff Stein on May 9, 2016,

Donald Trump, who has spent months decrying politicians who take big money for their campaigns, now says he will accept money from big-dollar donors for the general election.

Trump's team announced last week that he will create a fundraising apparatus that will take big checks from the wealthiest donors to fund a campaign that could cost upward of $1 billion, according to Bloomberg.

"He's done a complete 180," says Josh Stewart, a spokesperson for the Sunlight Foundation, which tracks money in politics. "A central part of Trump's campaign for the nomination was that he was not bought and paid for and would self-fund his campaign. Now, he's going back on that."

In other words, Trump has now become the very kind of candidate he's said he spent decades buying off.

Donald Trump wasn't completely self-funding his campaign, but it was pretty close

Trump's theory of money in politics has always been clear: Wealthy donors pour cash into campaigns, and politicians cut them special deals in exchange once elected.

Since declaring his candidacy, Trump has attacked politicians accepting campaign donations as being bought off by special interests. This message has clearly resonated with primary voters, who have repeatedly listed Trump's financial independence as central to his appeal.

"Their lobbyists, their special interests and their donors will start calling President Bush, President Clinton," Trump has said. "And they’ll say: ‘You have to do it. They gave you a million dollars to your campaign.'"

http://www.vox.com/2016/5/9/11640038/donald-trump-donations-big-money
dirtbag

climber
May 10, 2016 - 05:42pm PT
Here's your man, Klimmer, mocking a person's disability:


So spare us your sanctimonious babble.

Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
May 10, 2016 - 05:55pm PT
Funny
If you Google Trump criminal
it turns out that he has 100s of criminal implications

associated with the mob
hiring illegal aliens
illegal real estate deals
under investigation for Trump University
bribing Ben Carson
lying to investors

100s instances of criminal activity has been documented as FACT

so the fool appears to be the person that believes Trump BS rather than facts

What now Klimmer
just wave your hands and say Hillary is far worse?
That's just another lie you accept w/o question
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
May 10, 2016 - 06:00pm PT
When hasn't he been?

For as long as we've known him here.

He's pure fantasy.
Beginning with religion/theism.
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
May 10, 2016 - 06:12pm PT
Are you F-ing Kidding me!!!!

You don't accept any of the stuff that pops up on Google when you type in Trump criminal, are you saying it's all lies!!!

all I can say is, read this and weep, or deny like a fool


Fact Checkers Prove That 91% of the Things Donald Trump Says Are False

By Sarah Jones on Thu, Mar 31st, 2016 at 12:05 pm

Donald Trump, the Republican front-runner, is at the bottom of the Politifact list with a sad 9% of true or mostly true statements. Just 9% of the things Donald Trump says are mostly related to the truth.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/03/31/ninety-one-percent-donald-trump-false.html


I'm calling you out. Prove the Bovine Dung you keep throwing.
Klimm

Please let me know which fact you consider Bovine dung, so I can respond to it specifically
Norton

Social climber
May 10, 2016 - 06:18pm PT
you damn right Trump openly mocked a well know disabled reporter

here is the video, you asked for it


[Click to View YouTube Video]
Norton

Social climber
May 10, 2016 - 06:19pm PT

Trump draws scornful rebuke for mocking reporter with disability


from Washington Post

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11/25/trump-blasted-by-new-york-times-after-mocking-reporter-with-disability/
dirtbag

climber
May 10, 2016 - 06:19pm PT
Klimmer:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11/25/trump-blasted-by-new-york-times-after-mocking-reporter-with-disability/

I googled "trump disabled reporter" and dozens of similar stories popped up . It happened around thanksgiving, and when I watched him do it I couldn't believe it.

Edit: since Norton posted the Washington post story, I'll post a different source:


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34930042
zBrown

Ice climber
May 10, 2016 - 06:30pm PT
“God does not work in four-year segments.”...


Once Trump gets out of graduate school, presumably he'll no longer mock people with a disability, unless of course the dude is a white racist neo nazi farmer in which case he gets a pass, even if his deficit is being brain dead at birth.

"The birth of a deformed nation, eh? White Power."
-George(s) (Lincoln Rockwell and Wallace)




Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
May 10, 2016 - 06:31pm PT
Are you sure that those "videos" are not just more bovine dung and just fabricated by the vast left wing conspiracy network that's funded by billionaire donors?
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