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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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Total employment in the U.S. is larger today than it was in 2008.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Yes forget the wars, the crash, the lies, the stupidity and Dick Cheney.
"Now that 2014 has gone on the books as the best year for employment growth in 15 years, the official figures show that the U.S. had 6,371,000 more people employed in December than it did when Obama took office in 2009. So during Obama’s first six years in office, the U.S. has added nearly five times more jobs than it did during the entire eight years under President George W. Bush. (Bush’s total was just under 1.3 million.)
Bush’s record suffered from a loss of nearly 4.4 million jobs in the last 12 months of his presidency, and we can’t say what the last two years of Obama’s tenure will bring.
The official unemployment rate has now dipped to 5.6 percent, which is 2.2 percentage points below where it was when Obama first took office. It is not only the lowest jobless rate in six years — it is slightly better than the historical average. Since 1948, the monthly jobless rate has averaged 5.8 percent.
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Norton
Social climber
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someone explain WHY is the average Republican voter so damn stupid?
is it in the water, where does this fvcking ignorance come from?
Well into his second term as president, over half of Republicans remain convinced that president Barack Obama is a Muslim, according to a poll released Tuesday by Democratic firm Public Policy Polling.
The poll finds that 54 percent of Republicans think Obama is a Muslim, 14 percent think he's a Christian and 32 percent say they are unsure.
Obama's country of birth also remains a question for Republicans. A plurality, 44 percent, say they don't think he was born in the U.S. Only a third believe that he is American-born, and slightly less than another third are unsure where he was born.
Public Policy Polling
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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An African Muslim to be concise.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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If it wasn't so sad you would just have to laugh.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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In a nutshell, the 2016 election is going to be the biggest IQ test in history and as it is the GOP primary is already a grand Rorschach test.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Republican logic...
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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And 1,320,000 alcohol related deaths since Columbine and no prohibition.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Sep 1, 2015 - 03:25pm PT
someone explain WHY is the average Republican voter so damn stupid?
is it in the water, where does this fvcking ignorance come from?
Norton, try to watch Fox 5-8 pm. Just once. Conservatives tune in religiously. Imagine watching every. frickin. day. Then get in your car and imagine listening to the same crap every. single. mile. Now you'll have your answer.
It fuels the fear and anger you see here daily.
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Gary
Social climber
Hell is empty and all the devils are here
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And 1,320,000 alcohol related deaths since Columbine and no prohibition.
TGT, get back to us when a school is massacred by a bottle of Jim Beam.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Yeah, that number, kids under 14, killed by dunk drivers is only around 16,500
(1100 per year)
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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The "is a Obama a Muslim" thing is perhaps a little more nuanced than some of you would like to admit.
I would be willing to revise my view if someone more familiar with sharia law than I am contradicts me, but it seems to me that Obama is in fact a Muslim under sharia law.
This case got a lot of international attention:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-27424064
Here are the basic facts: a girl had Muslim father, Christian mother, father was gone during childhood and girl was raised by mom, girl grew up and married a Christian, then was sentenced to death for apostasy.
Sound kind of familiar?
It's easy to laugh this off and say who cares what the Muslims think, and about most things I'd agree. But if the question is whether someone is a Muslim, don't the Muslims get a say in that? If you're in a country they control, you "bet your life" they do.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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Not in the U.S. in this country we get to pick.
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Gary
Social climber
Hell is empty and all the devils are here
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Yeah, that number, kids under 14, killed by dunk drivers is only around 16,500
And so we take steps to restrict drunk drivers, Should we also take steps to restrict sales of guns?
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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FRUMY, that seems to be the trend, now we can apparently pick things like what sex you are (sort of, to my knowledge the chromosomes don't change) and what race we are (again, sort of).
But can you "pick" that you're not, say, a Jew? You can pick what you believe, but you can't pick your relatives. To muslims, apparently being a muslim is a permanent, immutable characteristic (at least you get killed if you try to change it), and Obama appears to be a muslim under that definition.
The main point of this is that it's mostly a matter of semantics--people who say Obama is a muslim appear to be correct under the muslims' definition of what it means to be a muslim.
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dirtbag
climber
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Blah blah, fair points but I'd bet most of the "yes he is" respondents think he is a devout worshipper.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Thanks, healyje and El Cap, for the replies. If the statistics for share of income of the top 1% come from the IRS (the most likely source), then they show reported income. Starting the time series in 1979, when the top marginal rate was still 70%, skews the results.
I was a partner in a law firm that started as a group that specialized in taxation issues, and had five certified specialists by the State Bar of California in taxation law when I joined in June of 1982. After the two tax reforms of the Reagan years took effect, our taxation business almost disappeared, except for defending audits and dealing with death taxes, because it was easier and cheaper to realize income when earned than to deal with the complications of tax-shelter strategies. Accordingly, the share of income going to the highest income earners didn't necessarily change, but the amount of income they reported on their tax returns did.
Ironically, though, the biggest shift in the percentage of income earned by the highest 1% came under the current administration, although I would consider it unfair to blame the administration alone. The government generally (meaning both the legislative and executive branches) borrowed one enormous amount of money, and has relied on keeping real interest rates negative during this time. One effect of unusually low interest rates is to raise the relative values of equities. Since most of the highest reported incomes consist primarily of capital gains (see California's tax history if you doubt this), a rising stock market increases the value of shares and increases the amount of gains realized when those shares sell.
None of this contradicts the relative stagnation of real wages, and both Sanders and Trump feed on the resentment about that stagnation. They just choose different bogeymen for the explanation. To me, they're two sides of the same coin.
Still, I can't disagree with your comments about the stupidity of many Republican voters. Unfortunately, the stupidity of many Democratic voters is also apparent to those willing to look. Fox News, sad to say, isn't the only source of one-sided information.
John
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Norton
Social climber
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there is no such thing as a "Christian child"
no such thing as a Muslim child
a child's brain is not developed and mature enough to have made the critical analysis to decide what religion to believe in
it is the child's parents that impart that particular religion's garments, rituals, on the child
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Yeah, that number, kids under 14, killed by dunk drivers is only around 16,500
And so we take steps to restrict drunk drivers, Should we also take steps to restrict sales of guns?
A valid analogy is what steps do we take to restrict people killing people with guns?
Pretty sure there are plenty of laws already against that.
Anyone over 21 can go buy as much booze as you'd like, no license required.
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