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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Jul 28, 2015 - 07:55pm PT
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hey there say... i don't have all the tech stuff advice, for the long haul, etc...
but--i will say this:
NEVER NEVER go out, unless you let folks know your agenda and all that etc and then--don't change course... and--
also--always have emergency aid box, etc... and an emergency
plan for IF an accident should occur...
DON'T hike alone... (sorry, that is the mommy in me, and--having heard too many stories of folks ending up lost, and NOT found, or, found injured TOO LATE, as there was no one to go back for help)...
edit: sadly, i just recently heard-tell, that a young man, in colorado,
is missing... from a trail run... :(
okay, next, step right up:
more tips to come?
:)
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Jul 28, 2015 - 07:58pm PT
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Don't overpack . Take only what is absolutely necessary, then trim that amount. Other than that make sure your planning is precise, know exactly where you are going and for how long.
If you are going with others make sure everybody is in the loop as regards the terrain, the destinations, and the overall plan.
If solo make sure someone at home knows the where ,when ,and how of your entire trip. Call them at the conclusion of your backpack. Tell them when you'll be home.
Take a roll of ace bandages and some NSAIDs.
When in bear country take the necessary precautions.
Have a good time.
If you are staging your disappearance or suicide then reverse all of the above.
If it is to be suicide then take Reilly's advice below.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 28, 2015 - 07:59pm PT
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One werd: schnapps. But be forewarned, it could lead to yodeling.
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Banquo
climber
Amerricka
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Jul 28, 2015 - 08:24pm PT
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Powdered horchata from the Mexican grocery is good on your granola. I put 1-1/2 cup of granola and two tablespoons of horchata powder in a ziploc. In the morning you put some water in, shake it up and you have breakfast. One ziploc for each day.
Nestle's leche polvo from the Mexican grocery is way better (it's full cream!) than any other powered milk. Put it in your coffee or stir it into a cup of cold water for a glass of cold milk.
Middle eastern flat bread from Trader Joe's is better than any other bread or tortillas that I know of.
Steal some mayo, mustard and relish packets from the truck stop on your way to the mountains. With cheese, salami and TJ's bread (above) you have a fine sandwich.
Don't filter your water but get your water from the best source you can find. Choose a side stream rather than the main stream. People and cows are the hazard. I haven't filtered water in 15 year and have never had a problem but I am careful. IMPO people get sick more often from poor hygiene.
Freeze dried food generally isn't very good. It is also lacking it fats. Bring olive oil or butter to make it richer and better.
The less cooking, the better. I mainly use a stove to support my coffee addiction.
At my age, a chair is worth the pound or two. Either one that uses your sleeping pad like the Crazy Creek or if you can afford it the Alite Mantis which is awesome.
A tarp is a better option than a tent unless you are in a winter storm or the mosquitoes are bad. In good weather I use it as a ground sheet. In bad weather it is my shelter. If you can find a hexagonal tarp, it is easier to rig.
They say you need 1.5 to 2.0 lbs of dry food per day but I cannot eat that much. For a one week trip, I generally eat about 1 lb per day.
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Jul 28, 2015 - 08:25pm PT
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The morale of the story, let's avoid situations like that.
Uh-oh.
Definitely go for the schnapps. Maybe peach schnapps.
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ruppell
climber
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Jul 28, 2015 - 08:34pm PT
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Do not be THAT INTERNET JERK.
Oh this thread is going places:
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jul 28, 2015 - 08:41pm PT
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People always bring way too much shite. If you think you need something, you don't. If you KNOW you need something, you do.
A few tips:
Freeze dried food pretty much sucks. I think you burn more calories digesting it then you get from eating it.
No toilet paper....there are a plethora of asswipe substitutes in the natural world.
Leave your f*#king I phone home.....not being connected can be a blessing.
If you take a photo of yourself and post it on Facebook and call it a SELFIE I'll personally find out where you live and kill you.
Have fun!
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Jul 28, 2015 - 08:51pm PT
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about 20% of my climbing trips become backpacking trips
about 7% of my backpacking trips become climbing trips
tip 1: leave hiking boots behind. running shoes ("approach" shoes, if you must) will suffice.
tip 2: bring a camera, and have it immediately available (i.e. not in the top lid of your backpack, but something you can actually whip out and shoot within 10 seconds)
tip 3: complete understanding of where you can reliably get waster. don't carry too much water between sources. You should show up to the source damn-near dry.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 28, 2015 - 08:53pm PT
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So coming to SuperTopo for backpacking beta is like going to mormon,org for family planning.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
Shitalkqua, WA
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Jul 28, 2015 - 09:10pm PT
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Only serious responders only.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Jul 28, 2015 - 09:27pm PT
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The entire forum is distracted by a beautiful lion named Cecil and a f*#ktard that is trying to shut this place down.
Of course we have advice.
YER GONNA DIE!!!!
slackers
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Psilocyborg
climber
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Jul 28, 2015 - 09:29pm PT
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i thought supertopo was a really weird place, then a couple days ago I found one much more depraved and weird. You trolls would have a good time there. Seriously.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Jul 28, 2015 - 09:36pm PT
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If you start out as a climber and have a few unplanned bivies, it will reorient your sense of what you need and what you don't.
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feralfae
Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
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Jul 28, 2015 - 09:54pm PT
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If you start out as a climber and have a few unplanned bivies, it will reorient your sense of what you need and what you don't.
LOL, so true! A few nights sleeping where I did not plan to sleep brought home the nature of true necessities and cut my pack weight while increasing my options.
Go out a few times on short, overnight adventures. Follow neebee's advice. Actually, all the advice has been pretty good, and some hilariously great. Keep your sense of humor. :)
If you are doing elevation or in an area of climbing activity, be aware of the possibility of climbers and/or of you needing to climb. If you are interested in the geology, bring your rock hammer and some sample bags, of course.
Your general physical condition will guide you in the amount of weight you can carry. Body Mass Index is more significant than weight. There is a lot of info on hiking with a pack on the internet, too, so don't overlook that resource.
Have fun, stay safe, and good luck.
feralfae
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Jul 28, 2015 - 10:07pm PT
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3 words: Da Brim Pro.
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jonnyrig
climber
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Jul 28, 2015 - 10:55pm PT
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What they ^^^^ said. Realistically, you're going to have to determine your own ideal pack weight, based on what kind of crap you want to bring along. Plenty of good advice here, except maybe the schnapps. I hear they're making dehydrated beer now, might want to try that. Dehydrated water too. Just add beer.
Try a few short trips, say one or two days, and see what comes in useful and what ends up being crap. Find the lightest weight/best quality gear you can afford, since the lighter it is, the more consumables you can carry. Don't wipe your ass with poison ivy, poison oak, or stinging nettle. Maybe not with anything bearing thorns.
Don't break in a new pair of shoes on a hike.
Take lots of selfies. Send them to Donini.
Personally, I like the freeze dried foods when there's ample water along the trail. If not, I go with classic MRE's so I don't have to add water; but there's better food than that out there these days.
And if you happen to run across Elena, snap a picture and post it up. Near as I can tell, she's just a myth... like bigfoot.
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granite_girl
Trad climber
Oakland
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Jul 29, 2015 - 12:44am PT
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A change of underwear, a few Cliff Bars, and a space blanket. You're good to go! Don't forget the camera.
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ECF
Big Wall climber
Colona, CO
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Jul 29, 2015 - 03:15am PT
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I did four nights in January in the mountains of Colorado with only three lighters and a snickers bar.
You don't really need anything except the will to stay alive.
Lighters really help in winter...
If I'm not climbing something, the pack can not weigh more than 10 pounds per night out. Most of that is good cheese and great coffee...
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Jul 29, 2015 - 06:59am PT
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Deuter packs
jet boil stoves
Leki poles
Don't use a tent, use a tarp
6x6 ft piece of mosquito netting - NO deet
long sleeve shirts and pants made from microfiber, Columbia is the best.
35 degree bag and layer up with expensive poly long johns on colder trips
I could write a book. Maybe will some day.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jul 29, 2015 - 07:11am PT
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Well, around here bring and use the DEET... New England is ground zero for ticks this year.
Unless Lyme is your thing.
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