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squishy
Mountain climber
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Jul 19, 2015 - 10:59am PT
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We're going to add tons of new laws about drones, but sadly not until after drones are used to kill lots of people.
Stupid technology to put in the hands of bobbyist morons and potential terrorists. Not to mention creppy peepers.
We're gonna get those drones. Mark my words.
DMT
You sound like Salathe in his later years...
Mark my words...
you are dead wrong...
You sound exactly like the people who tried to ban automobiles because they would kill everyone and take over the roads and scare all the horses...that's just how wrong you are, just saying..own it...over and over, I do not mind, because history will show you. I don't even expect you to eat crow, I'll let you hang your head some day and walk away quietly, as an example...
welcome to the drone revolution...
I just spent the last 5 days with the best drone pilots in the world, a reoccurring question I got was "why is America so far behind?"
All I need to do now, is point to people like you, comments and opinions like this...you make the explanation to the rest of the world so damn easy..our governance is even further behind the curve...
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squishy
Mountain climber
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Jul 19, 2015 - 11:01am PT
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Jul 19, 2015 - 11:05am PT
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Don't feel too badly, pyro...after all, it's not the size, but what you do with it...
Apagoo try to get off with this pic!
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Caveman
climber
Cumberland Plateau
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Jul 19, 2015 - 11:08am PT
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"We're gonna get those drones. Mark my words.
DMT"
What a comedian...LOL!
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jul 19, 2015 - 11:10am PT
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The best thing about drones is... no more butt shots!
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squishy
Mountain climber
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Jul 19, 2015 - 11:18am PT
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I'm gonna miss the butt shots...
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jul 19, 2015 - 11:19am PT
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Jul 19, 2015 - 11:25am PT
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We had a similar event here in Colorado near Evergreen the other day. UAV involved on scene of a fire. But in this case the operator was working with the fire department to spot a lightening strike fire. Utilizing the first person view from the vehicle they flew in and did a recon on the fire to assess the situation. The bird got out and the FD went in with added information and put the little blaze out.
As far as the Cajon story goes it appears to be a bit sensationalized (gee... not the media!). I'll be curious to see what the real story ends up being (probably somewhere in the middle)
squishy is spot on - banning them would be like cutting your head off. the economic implications ($8B by 2018) are far to great for some draconian banning.
I in NO way would defend anyone that does stupid sh#t with their drone (and squishy is spot-on in the assessment that it's not the drone it's the stupid people - and I mean f*#k it let's just ban stupid people). I'm building a site specifically to call out the dou chebags. Probably won't really go far with it as it seems pointless.
Tom/Pagan and I are starting our UAV service business on one simple philosophy - UAVs can be used to save lives - both human and animal. We're submitting our application to the FAA for our 333 Exemption which will allow us to fly commercially. Most of our ops will be doing IR imaging of infrastructure (ski lift towers, roof tops, solar panels) or surveying work (wait until you play with my Nautalis dome mesh file/project - a new way to make a climbing guide or something). Requirements for operating under the 333 include that the person in charge be a pilot (I'm doing rec pilot training with an added ground school component that focuses on integrating our vehicles into the NAS), our vehicles will be registered with the FAA (with N tail number), we'll be fully insured, we operate under 200 feet, and cannot operate within 500' of persons not involved in the ops.
oh and squishy... I flew my first fixed wings yesterday. no crashes. going to build the flight test blueprint wing out of $2 foam and go crash that sh#t until I don't.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Jul 19, 2015 - 12:02pm PT
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When the Cessna and F16 collided a UAV operator was used to do a survey mission of the lake where they suspected the two bodies from the Cessna were. They flew a survey mission taking photos from above, uploaded those images to a cloud where software did stitching and mesh rendering. they were able to use the mesh to get a better view of where things were in the lake. sadly, they found what they were looking for.
I did a survey of Aya's house. here's a movie I made of me playing with the mesh file on my computer.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
if you are interested in the playing with the mesh file i can send it. Meshlab which is a free mac app is what I'm using.
taking this to a bigger scale.... the Nautilus. I can draw lines (routes?) in the mesh file.
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Jul 19, 2015 - 12:17pm PT
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Squishy, come join us at the NRA.
Hehe
Seriously, you can race them, make money with them, build them etc...
As long as I can take them down when they are threatening my privacy.
That's fair. The bad pilots lose drones, the good pilots don't.
This is Amorika, we are never behind the times.
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squishy
Mountain climber
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Jul 19, 2015 - 01:12pm PT
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Your failing good sir, is thinking you have privacy in the terms YOU define it...privacy in the US is an interesting subject..
You are in a billion photos and video clips you don't know about already and you don't seem to care at all about that...
But drones...where a camera is just a tiny piece of it's whole, you get your little panties all in a bunch...
Biased much?
And why?
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squishy
Mountain climber
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Jul 19, 2015 - 01:15pm PT
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Again, drones do not threaten privacy...
People threaten your privacy, and there's a giant F%$@#$^ing list of laws governing it already, go turn them in if you think they are breaking any laws. We govern people already when it comes to privacy, not the tools they use.
Stop humping the drones like you got a crush on them and go worry about what you are really worried about...or think you are..
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Jul 19, 2015 - 01:43pm PT
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At this time, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has classified drones as ‘aircrafts’ meaning that shooting at one is technically a violation of federal law
and can carry a sentence of up to 20 years in prison.
Seriously, you can race them, make money with them, build them etc...
As long as I can take them down when they are threatening my privacy.
so let me get this straight. your bargaining chip here is we can continue to do our legal activity so long as you can commit a crime when you don't like what is going on. Did I get that right?
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Jul 19, 2015 - 02:10pm PT
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If you are Peeping with the units, yes.
Wait, it's legal for you guys to peep?
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Jul 19, 2015 - 02:22pm PT
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how did you get from us racing them, building them, making money with them to peeping?
where I disagree a bit with squishy is that though he's 100% correct that the laws are already on the books I expect them to be tweaked especially in the privacy area.
But i also have to laugh at the idea that these will be a good tool to invade someones privacy. Tom Evans has a tool that is much more effective for peeping - his bigass lens and silence. meanwhile the little cam - go pro or whatever - with the wide angle lens attached to a loud upside down floating lawnmower... yeah... nobody gonna notice that.
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squishy
Mountain climber
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Jul 19, 2015 - 02:40pm PT
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That's why they call people like that"backwards" or "throwbacks"
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jul 19, 2015 - 02:43pm PT
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I am only adding because here on the suburban roll in gun loving connecticut someone up loaded a youtube vidieo of a drone with a hand gun attached,[Click to View YouTube Video]
thats enough of that,this is to long too but you get the idea. [Click to View YouTube Video]
we used to fire Estees rockets house to house , the damage and the requisite painting of houses led to some neighbors going into house painting for life,
A life sentence in painters pants, and climbing, only it came with lots of annoying wasp stings, and hot ladders.
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