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The Chief

climber

Down the hill & across the Valley from......

Oct 14, 2015 - 11:53am PT

Hillary example; Hired Monsanto Lobbyist to run her campaign.

Oh, but that's NOT corporate funding. Monsanto will save the world with their ultimate goal of GMOing the entire world's food source. That will of course be with Hillary's full 100% support.

skcreidc

Social climber

SD, CA

Oct 14, 2015 - 11:57am PT

This time, I really appreciate the sarcasm there The Chief. The GMO situation as it is now is a complete joke, except for how it makes money for companies involved.

10b4me

Social climber

Retired

Oct 14, 2015 - 12:00pm PT

Sanders will not be president.

The Chief

climber

Down the hill & across the Valley from......

Oct 14, 2015 - 12:09pm PT

skcreidc...

My Wife and I totally disdain Monsanto more than you could ever imagine and are full active members of two "quiet" orgs that are fighting everything about em. Everything. Including ANYONE politician that supports Monsanto's efforts in any or all of it's endeavors.

And so many fools here preach how volatile Big Oil is.....

skcreidc

Social climber

SD, CA

Oct 14, 2015 - 12:19pm PT

Well The Chief, after mostly disagreeing with you on so many different topics, I have a little different view of you now. Cudos to you and your wife. My wife and I are 110% with you two on this for soooooo many different reasons. Monsanto is the new Microsoft (the old microsoft...if that makes sense). They suck, and I'm being nice here. People need to wake up.

blahblah

Gym climber

Boulder

Oct 14, 2015 - 12:20pm PT

Oh another stupid-ass Hillary comment (which I think got wild applause, but that could be an assumption)--
As explanation as to why she wouldn't necessarily make every public college give free tuition to everyone, she said that Trump's kids shouldn't get free tuition.
What her about her own kid or kids (or grandkids)? Why would a multimultimulti-millionaire like Hillary focus on someone else's huge wealth instead of her own huge wealth?
Shades of her "flat broke" comment.
Just typical libtard division/hypocrisy.

madbolter1

Big Wall climber

Denver, CO

Oct 14, 2015 - 12:27pm PT

Here's the problem the Dems have from my perspective. Up until last night, I was prepared to vote for the Bern. But his hand-shaking, yuk, yuk, yuk, "Tired of the emails" song and dance killed it for me.

It's not just that I despise the Hillabeast and think that the "email scandal" is FAR from behind her. That would be grist for the Hillabeast thread, where I've said all I'm going to say on that subject while the FBI does its non-partisan work. It's that the Bern very intentionally capitulated on THE opportunity to distinguish himself from the front-runner.

He didn't even have to throw her under the bus to do so. ALL he had to say was something like this: "I don't think it's appropriate for any of us to answer questions regarding a situation that is presently the subject of an active FBI investigation. That said, I DO think that integrity matters, and my long record is one of consistency and integrity."

There! There you have it, and the Bern virtually seals my vote.

But noooooo. I cannot properly express my disgust at that photo-op moment that was so CLEARLY orchestrated to ENSURE that the Hillabeast suffered NO damage during that "debate."

At this point it's clear to me that the Hillabeast MUST win the nod, regardless of the Bern's surging in the polls. The fix is IN. This charade is done, and the results are clear cut. The Bern WILL ultimately give his endorsement to the Hillabeast. All the rest is consolidation of the party prior to him formally handing over his crowd of followers to her. Bern's true believers don't see the writing on the wall now, but they ARE going to get burned, not Berned.

That charade was the end for me. Webb can NEVER get the nod, and he's the only other Dem I would vote for. So, the party just killed itself from my perspective. And that's SAD, because I'm pretty disgusted with the Rebumblecon crew. Thus, the Dems just lost my vote due to a FLAGRANT lack of basic integrity, and the Bern just showed me how utterly the fix is IN.

They pretty much had me, but now I'm done with it. UNCONSCIONABLE, Bern!

crankster

Trad climber

No. Tahoe

Oct 14, 2015 - 12:38pm PT

Mb's already got his exit strategy planned.."the fix is in!" "Orchestrated!!" The Big Eye in the Sky has taken control!! Too funny.
Rational people, watch, listen and learn.

Hillary's college plan is about reducing or eliminating public college tuition debt using grants, etc...plus having students work part-time.

Bernie's a great guy, a man of integrity. But he likely will fade after the NH primary. Hillary won the debate because she's brilliant and a strong debater.

apogee

climber

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy

Oct 14, 2015 - 12:40pm PT

"Sanders will not be president."

Fact. Just like Trump will not be President.

However, both of them will get their respective Base riled up, and they will more likely turn out at the polls for whatever candidate that is annointed by the dark shadows of their political Party.

10b4me

Social climber

Retired

Oct 14, 2015 - 12:49pm PT

Fact. Just like Trump will not be President.

However, both of them will get their respective Base riled up, and they will more likely turn out at the polls for whatever candidate that is annointed by the dark shadows of their political Party.

I agree with you.

Norton

Social climber

Oct 14, 2015 - 12:51pm PT

Hillary gets about 6 million more overall votes than the Repub nominee...

and takes the Electoral College Votes by over 90 in another modern day landslide

the Dems take back the US Senate and Repubs keep the House

continued divided government, complete with occasional childish shutdowns

can we vote now and get this thing over with...another year of this circus

blahblah

Gym climber

Boulder

Oct 14, 2015 - 12:59pm PT

So it would have been self-serving indeed, for Hillary to make any statement about how to pay for her daughter's education.

A very Clintonesque view.
How about her granddaughter?
How do you know that Hillary and Bill won't adopt a kid?
Hillary wants the blue collar crowd to dislike Trump because he's rich.
But at least Trump earned (at least some of) his wealth--Hillary and Bill got their incredible fortune by shamelessly monetizing their public office.
Check out the Marc Rich pardon if you need any reminders.

John Duffield

Mountain climber

New York

Oct 14, 2015 - 01:07pm PT

Just like Trump will not be President

Three months ago, I would've agreed with this. But now? I can't be sure. Seems unthinkable, that someone without a single day in office, could be President. But then our current President, really lowered the bar. I don't think President Obama, even completed a single term as Senator.

survival

Big Wall climber

Terrapin Station

Oct 14, 2015 - 01:15pm PT

can we vote now and get this thing over with.

Ummmm, no.

Norton

Social climber

Oct 14, 2015 - 01:23pm PT

I don't think President Obama, even completed a single term as Senator.

correct

political experience does not seem to matter to voters anymore

seems people like thinking an "outsider" is a refreshing change

neither Trump, Carson, or Carla have even one day in government yet are the leading
contenders on the Repub side

skcreidc

Social climber

SD, CA

Oct 14, 2015 - 01:27pm PT

The election process is what it is now. Better get used to 2 years of campaining (and I mean pain).

I think it is good Trump is in the mix for now. Trump is good at what he does; making money for Trump and self promotion. He HAS used bankruptcy as a tool. "Just a tool" quoting him. What I would like to know is what he did do with the employees involved? Did he throw them under the bus, or did he place them in other positions. Another thing, the tax plan he unveiled benifits Trump (and the rich) unlike what he said. But is this a big surprise? No, the guy has been like this all his life. Would he fit in? Sure, he would cut deals left and right. Do I want him as president? NO.

Reilly

Mountain climber

The Other Monrovia- CA

Oct 14, 2015 - 01:31pm PT

Bernie and Hillary are almost identical to Robespierre and Danton. The former,
L'Incorruptible, eventually succumbed to the siren call of absolute power
and turned on his former friend and saw him guillotined. The only difference
this time is that Hillary controls the Committee of Public Safety so she is safe.

wilbeer

Mountain climber

Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,

Oct 14, 2015 - 01:34pm PT

Trump inherited a 20 million dollar company.

I am glad MB says it is all over.

blahblah

Gym climber

Boulder

Oct 14, 2015 - 01:36pm PT

neither Trump, Carson, or Carla have even one day in government yet are the leading
contenders on the Repub sid

Trump and Fiorina have demonstrable executive experience by virtue of being the chief executive officer of massive business enterprises.
The president is the chief executive officer.
Ergo, Trump and Fiorina are qualified (you may not like them, but that's a different matter).
True, Obama was (and remains) unqualified, but it's speculative to guess whether another couple years as senator would have made much of a difference.