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dirtbag
climber
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Feb 19, 2016 - 06:21am PT
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I admire your open mind. Cheers.
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Feb 19, 2016 - 07:22am PT
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I do like Reich's approach; using history to see into the future. I have felt for 2 decades that we have a great need to rebuild our infrastructure, to better our educational system, and to increase access to both. This has, in the past, allowed for a middle class to thrive and spend money on things; in other words allow our economy to grow in a healthy way. I'd like to see the middle class grow again. I realize my "quality" of retirement depends upon it.
Note that right after each inequality peak came a stock market crash.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 19, 2016 - 08:01am PT
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better our educational system
What, yer gonna abolish tenure and make kids get useful degrees? BwaHaHaHa!
Where's Starbucks goona get their baristas? I've two nieces, one with an English and
the other with some 'general science' degree from excellent schools. The two of 'em don't
make what a gud plumber makes, combined. Now the gen sci one wants to go to grad
school and get a masters in something like LGBT studies. Yeah, like that's gonna raise her
standard of living a lot. You think kids in China are doing stoopid like that?
Then there's the nephew who doubled in math and business. He's a big cheese with
Amazon and will surely retire well by 40, if he wants to, which he won't.
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dirtbag
climber
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Feb 19, 2016 - 08:02am PT
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Secretary Reich wrote:
As Bernie Sanders has said, taking action on all these fronts would therefore spur growth, employment, and median incomes. (In this respect, I disagree with the views of four former chairs of the Council of Economic Advisors from the Clinton and Obama administrations.)
That's a pretty cursory response. All those are good things, but analyses such as Friedman's, who says Bernie's plans will result in 5.3% growth, are quite extreme and unprecedented.
Bernie's proposals are ambitious, and laudable in many ways, but he is promising too much, and not fully leveling with the American people who will pay.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Feb 19, 2016 - 08:15am PT
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I do like Reich's approach; using history to see into the future. I have felt for 2 decades that we have a great need to rebuild our infrastructure, to better our educational system, and to increase access to both. This has, in the past, allowed for a middle class to thrive and spend money on things; in other words allow our economy to grow in a healthy way. I'd like to see the middle class grow again. I realize my "quality" of retirement depends upon it.
Go figure, learning from the past. Some dude named Santayana had a brilliant saying in that regard.
I think you're mostly correct. At least in that a large/healthy middle-class is a barometer of American economic health. And one of the ways to achieve that is education, without Common Core. That George Santayana dude also said, "A child educated only at school is an uneducated child."
Much of the chaos wrought upon the middle-class has to do with shipping jobs overseas, and bringing in workers from abroad to "supplement" workers here.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Feb 19, 2016 - 08:30am PT
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Una foto fantastico, NutAgain! Thanks for sharing, and I wish I was there to see it.
You have it backwards, the people supporting Bernie want YOUR stuff.
If by "YOUR stuff", you mean corporate taxes, reasonable taxes on the top 1%, and taxes on Wall Street speculation, you are right. It's about time that those who trod on the backs of the American worker pay back into the system.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Feb 19, 2016 - 08:38am PT
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Bernie's goals may be too lofty but Hillary's ideas seem more status quo..? She seems to have done some back-pedaling to the left when Bernie's popularity grew...? I'll vote for Hillary if Sanders loses but i feel Bernie has more integrity...
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Feb 19, 2016 - 08:54am PT
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Here's the crux of the biscuit with Clinton, to whom is she indebted to? It seems the US electorate is ready for a non-establishment politician. And for good reason, we're sick (litterally) and tired of being raped by the multi-national corporations and the politicians they control.
Clinton's speaking fees—which have netted the former secretary of state millions in recent years—have come under scrutiny during the campaign, with Sanders and others suggesting they show she is too closely aligned with big banks.
Politico reported earlier this month that when she addressed Goldman Sachs executives and technology titans at a summit in Arizona in October of 2013, "she spoke glowingly of the work the bank was doing raising capital and helping create jobs, according to people who saw her remarks."
The Nevada realator hits the nail on the head:
The [speaking fees] issue seems to have resonated with voters, like the man who asked Clinton about the speaking fees at Thursday's MSNBC-moderated Democratic presidential town hall in Las Vegas.
"As a realtor here in Nevada I know how important the economy is to our great nation," he said. "As a Democratic candidate who has delivered speeches to the largest U.S. financial institutions in exchange for hundreds of thousands of dollars in speaking fees, why are you hesitant to release transcript or audio/video recordings of those meetings to be transparent with the American people regarding the promises and assurances that you have made to the big banks?"
"Let me say this," Clinton responded, "I am happy to release anything I have when everybody else does the same because every other candidate in this race has given speeches to private groups, including Senator Sanders."
The New York Times reported in May 2015 that in the year prior, Sanders had collected $1,867.42 for three appearances, "a grand sum that is chump change in presidential politicking but enough for the senator to respectably donate the money to charity."
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Feb 19, 2016 - 09:11am PT
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That's the issue you'd decide your vote on, John D.? A sentence in an old interview? Clinton Derangement Syndrome has no cure, it seems.
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Feb 19, 2016 - 09:13am PT
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Much of the chaos wrought upon the middle-class has to do with shipping jobs overseas, and bringing in workers from abroad to "supplement" workers here.
I agree with that Blue. The myth of the global economy.....for most the economy is basically local.
Reilly. Quite the smartass! We need barista's, plumbers, janitors, and the like. You know, this IS a free country; you can do what you want to some degree. And not everybody's idea of happiness/success is based solely on money. If your niece wants to do LGBT studies more power to her. Not everyone makes a good engineer.
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Feb 19, 2016 - 09:16am PT
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So, how about that Kasich dude? I never get any emails from him.....
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Feb 19, 2016 - 09:22am PT
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So, how about that Kasich dude? I never get any emails from him.....
I finally got my first today, and I will gladly support him as best I can, since I think he is the candidate best able to govern with intelligence and integrity.
John
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dirtbag
climber
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Feb 19, 2016 - 09:25am PT
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Better act quickly John.
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Feb 19, 2016 - 09:35am PT
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Bernie is selling Leninism
No, he's not. Do some reading, it's amazing what you'll discover.
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Feb 19, 2016 - 09:40am PT
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Bernie is selling Leninism
Gary is right. Utter nonsense that is. A quote from The Economist article Reilly posted up
"Compared with left-wingers there—Jeremy Corbyn in Britain, for instance—Mr Sanders is no socialist. It is freewheeling America which puts Mr Sanders on the far-left."
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 19, 2016 - 09:51am PT
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skcreid, yes, we all march to our own drummer but in this increasingly dog eat dog world
it behooves one to face reality. I love a lot of things that wouldn't put a meal on the table
but I pursue them in my spare time. Getting a meaningless degree just clogs up the works
and turns you into a Bernie Fan. It ain't a Khumbaya world any more - it really is closer to a
zero sum game and there's billions of Chinese and others out there that want sum, although
I've yet to see my first Chinese plumber.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Feb 19, 2016 - 10:01am PT
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So now I have heard everything here.
If we have free college ,everyone is going to get a meaningless degree.
Bernie is a commie,Leninist,Socialist.
We want want your stuff.
How about if we have free health care ,we are all are going to want to be sick.
Economic Doom.
How about death panels.
Vote for who ever you want.
Just remember,don't forget.
Go Hillary,continue the disparity!
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