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apogee

climber

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy

Apr 24, 2015 - 01:07pm PT

Methinks thou doth protesteth too much about the goat.

madbolter1

Big Wall climber

Denver, CO

Apr 24, 2015 - 01:09pm PT

But why did you f*#k the goat?

I DIDN'T! I DIDN'T! I DID NOT DO THAT!

Not once! Not EVER!

I never turned the tip of my big (some might say massive), hard drill "inward" EVER! If I EVER pointed my thingy toward a goat, it was ALWAYS at an oblique angle. Never inward! Okay? GOT it?

dirtbag

climber

Apr 24, 2015 - 01:10pm PT

During Clinton's presidency, several million Americans died.

Several. Million.

Should I list them?

Anyone who votes for that monster Hillary has blood on his hands.

And btw, everyone else alive during the Clinton years will die too. And they did nothing to stop it.

apogee

climber

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy

Apr 24, 2015 - 01:15pm PT

"some might say massive"

"I believe it is incumbent upon the people propagating such <things> to establish the truth of what they're alleging."

madbolter1

Big Wall climber

Denver, CO

Apr 24, 2015 - 01:20pm PT

Look (sigh), I'll try to explain once and for all.

Rubbing (or even gently tapping) the tip along its side is not the same thing as "dimpling" IN. You've gotta go IN (even if only a little) for it to be technically called "fvking" the goat. Surely you can get that. Can't you?

I can draw a diagram if you need me to.

Now and then, I'll admit, I've done a bit of "rubbing" or even "gentle tapping," but rarely, and ALWAYS "alongside." I don't actually ENTER, even with a "dimple."

So, yeah, you've got me on the whole goat bit. They are irresistible by nature. But not IN! Never IN!

madbolter1

Big Wall climber

Denver, CO

Apr 24, 2015 - 01:21pm PT

"I believe it is incumbent upon the people propagating such <things> to establish the truth of what they're alleging."

I totally agree, so I would urge the "some" to come forward with what they have alleged.

apogee

climber

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy

Apr 24, 2015 - 01:23pm PT

I don't think dirtclaud is going to be able to do that. Can you step up for him?

madbolter1

Big Wall climber

Denver, CO

Apr 24, 2015 - 01:29pm PT

It wouldn't have the same "weight" coming from me.

couchmaster

climber

Topic Author's Reply - Apr 24, 2015 - 01:47pm PT

Those in the know say it was a sheep anyway....

zBrown

Ice climber

Brujò de la Playa

Apr 24, 2015 - 01:48pm PT

Gandy is dandy, but innuendo is quicker.

This is some of it. Three separate websites (the first three that popped) just passing around the kool-aid.

Gandy Baugh, Attorney representing Mr. Lassater in a case concerning alleged financial misconduct.
died: 1/8/94 - Died in an alleged suicide by jumping out of a window of a multi-story building. - Mr. Lassater was a close associate of Gov. Clinton, and was later indicted on drug related charges, among other things. Baugh's law partner was "suicided" one month later on 2/9/94

Gandy Baugh, attorney representing Mr. Lassater in a case concerning alleged financial misconduct, died in an alleged suicide on Jan.8, 1994, by jumping out of a window of a multi-story building. Mr. Lassater was a close associate of Gov. Clinton, and was later indicted on drug related charges, among other things. Baugh's law partner was "suicided" one month later on Feb. 9, 1994.

Gandy Baugh Died Jan. 8, 1994 Attorney representing Dan Lasater in a case concerning alleged financial misconduct. Died in an alleged suicide by jumping out of a window of a multi-story building. Lasater was a close associate of Gov. Clinton, and was convicted of cocaine distribution. Baugh's law partner was also "committed suicide" one month later on Feb. 9, 1994.

If you persist, it does get more interesting and Black Muslim Obama finally makes an appearance.

Throughout the Democratic Primary, we were lead to believe that the Clintons and the Obamas do not get along. It is now clear that this forced acrimony was a charade to cover up a far more nefarious scheme. An email making the rounds now called Obama’s Death List goes into great detail about the many murders tied to Obama–one of them before he was 10. All in all, Obama was responsible for 18 murders. In fairness, this is still a far cry from the 62 deaths attributable to the Clintons.

What really stood out for me was the death of Gandy Baugh. According to the emails, Baugh was killed by the Clintons and Obamas both.

According to the Obama email : GANDY BAUGH – Attorney for Obama friend Antonin Rezko died by falling out an eightieth story window of the Hancock Tower, January, 2003. His client was a convicted Chinese spy.

While according to the Clinton email: Gandy Baugh: Baugh was Lasater’s attorney and committed suicide on January 8, 1994. Baugh’s partner committed suicide exactly one month later on February 8, 1994

This seems to exonerate Obama. Afterall, you can’t kill somebody who has already been dead for 9 years. However, it is possible that Baugh had faked his own death to fool the Clintons only to have Obama finally kill him nearly a decade later. This strikes me as a far greater conspiracy between the Clintons and Obamas than a simple murder and I urge the Justice Department to investigate him.

apogee

climber

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy

Apr 24, 2015 - 01:53pm PT

dirt claud

Social climber

san diego,ca

Apr 24, 2015 - 02:05pm PT

Hey, I got more chest hair than that, come on!!

madbolter1

Big Wall climber

Denver, CO

Apr 24, 2015 - 02:12pm PT

A goat I "know of" has more chest hair than that.

Sheep are overrated and entirely passe'.

Unless you're into wool rather than chest hair.

Nibs

Trad climber

Humboldt, CA

Apr 24, 2015 - 02:43pm PT

does this help?
http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp

regarding MB and the Goat...it must be true.

Norton

Social climber

quitcherbellyachin

Apr 24, 2015 - 02:53pm PT

does this help?
http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp

not really

because there is no probability of unbias when one is predisposed to being anti a particular political party or individual

especially when one has not yet grown out of the....because I believe it then it must be true

piss and moan, search desperately to denigrate

but what absolutely cannot do, period, is deny that both the economy and the markets
do significantly better when a Democratic Administration is in office

go ahead, ignore that, and cling to sitting in the bleachers and throwing rocks

dirtbag

climber

Apr 24, 2015 - 03:14pm PT

I'd forgotten about all that Vince foster stuff.

apogee

climber

Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy

Apr 24, 2015 - 03:20pm PT

The Bush Body Count!

Prove it ain't true, dirtclaud & mb!

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/bush_body_count.htm

Sid Adger: Mr. Adger, a Houston oil supply company executive and Bush family friend, died in 1996 of Unknown Causes. Mr. Adger was the mysterious businessman who approached General James Rose and asked him to help George W. Bush avoid Vietnam by recommending him for a pilot position with the National Guard.

General James Rose: General Rose recommended George W. Bush for a pilot position with the Texas National Guard. He died of Unknown Causes in 1993. He was immediately buried and no autopsy was performed.

Orlando Letelier: He was torn to bits by a car bomb on the streets of Washington DC just before he was to testify about the Chilean dictator Pinochet. After the bombing, CIA Director George H. W. Bush told the FBI that there had been no Chilean involvement whatsoever. In 1991 the post-Pinochet Chilean Supreme Court asked George H. W. Bush if he would submit to questioning. He refused.

Ronni Moffit: She was Letelier's assistant. She and her husband were riding in the car with Letelier when the bomb exploded. Mr. Moffit survived. Ronni didn't.

Amiram Nir: He was a former Israeli agent who was in Jerusalem with George Bush during Iran Contra. He went under the assumed name of Pat Weber. Nir was scheduled to testify to the Senate subcommittee and it was feared he would reveal the truth. He perished, following the shooting-down of his aircraft with missiles from the helicopter of a man called Gene Tatum, 25-year CIA deep cover agent.

Senator John Tower: He was appointed by the Reagan/Bush Administration to chair the bipartisan committee to investigate the Iran/Contra scandals. He directed the Tower Report and had all the Iran Contra documents and knew the inside of the story. He was killed in an uninvestigated airplane crash later in Georgia in 1991. Also killed was his daughter, Marian.

Mario Ruiz Massieu: An apparent suicide. He was facing charges that he laundered money for the cocaine cartels. A Houston, Texas jury had found that $8 million in his bank accounts was paid to him by drug cartels.

Steve Kangas: His web site, Liberalism Resurgent, was meticulously researched and presented such a problem to the "real boss" of George Bush, Richard Scaife, that he hired a private detective to look into Kangas' past. Steve Kangas was found in a 39th-floor bathroom outside of Scaife's offices at One Oxford Centre, in Pittsburgh, an apparent suicide. Mr. Kangas, a very prolific writer, left no note. He had brought a fully-packed suitcase of clothes with him to Pittsburgh. He bought a burglar alarm shortly before he left for Pittsburgh. Why did he need a burglar alarm if he was going to commit suicide? An avowed advocate of gun control, he nevertheless bought a gun. What was he afraid of? Why did he go to Pittsburgh? After his death, his computer was sold for $150 and its hard drive wiped clean. Everything in his apartment was thrown away.

Mohammed Zia al-huk: Dictator of Pakistan, and knew all about Iran/Contra, the training, funding, and arming of narco-terrorists such as Osama bin Laden. In August 1988, the same day George Bush got the Republican nomination, his plane crashed into the ground with all engines running. The Pakistanis kept the bodies around (in violation of Islamic custom) for weeks, awaiting US experts. They showed up three weeks later and never checked the bodies. Why?

Malcolm Baldridge: Commerce Secretary May 1987. Baldridge was familiar with the Bush family ties to the Communist Chinese. He died in a mysterious horseback riding accident.

Karla Faye Tucker: She was executed in spite of enormous protest from the public, even those religious groups that advocate the death penalty. Even Pat Robertson thought that Karla was truly repentant and asked George W. Bush to spare her life. He refused. Afterward, in a Talk Magazine interview, this stalwart of the Republican Party made fun of the woman whose death warrant he had sanctioned. How compassionate! As of August 1999, George W. Bush signed his 93rd death warrant.

President John Fitzgerald Kennedy: An internal FBI memo reported that on November 22 a reputable businessman named George H. W. Bush reported hearsay that a certain Young Republican had been talking of killing the president when he came to Houston. The Young Republican was nowhere near Dallas on that date. According to a 1988 story in The Nation, J. Edgar Hoover said in a memo that Mr. George Bush of the CIA had been briefed on November 23rd, 1963 about the reaction of anti-Castro Cuban exiles in Miami to the assassination of President Kennedy. George H. W. Bush has denied this, although he was in Texas at the time and cannot account for his whereabouts at the time. Bush Killed JFKjr

George de Mohrenschildt: A rich Russian oilman, who was described with his wife as being the two people friendliest to Oswald at the time of the assassination. De Mohrenschildt was the man who moved Oswald to Dallas. In the late 1970's, shortly before the first meeting of the House Select Committee on Assassinations, de Mohrenschildt started seeing a new doctor in town. He quickly became mentally unstable, at which time his wife convinced him to stop seeing the doctor. They moved away and left a false forwarding address. On the same day that the Committee tried to contact him about testifying, he was found dead of a gun shot wound. In his personal address book was the entry Bush, George H.W. (Poppy) and Zapata Petroleum Midland (the oil company owned by G.H. Bush).

Barry Seal: He was supposedly murdered by Medellin cartel members, but a 6-month investigation by Sam Dalton, attorney for three of the accused murderers, into Mr. Seal's life and death uncovered some interesting points. The accused's cartel connections were well known, but not their association with Oliver North's enterprise. Mr. Seal was a drug smuggler, up to his armpits in smuggling cocaine for - guess who? - the CIA. During the penalty phase of the Columbians' trial, testimony by one government witness on the activities of Mr. Seal was so damaging to the government, that 2 of the jurors wanted to change their verdict to "not guilty". The personal telephone number of George H. W. Bush was found in the trunk of Mr. Seal's car.

Florence Martin: She was Barry Seal's bookkeeper and was found in October 1994, sprawled across her bed, shot three times in the head through a pillow. Nothing in the house was taken, including her billfold (in plain view) or her late husband's gun collection. There was no evidence of a robbery.

William Colby: This former CIA director disappeared in an apparent boating accident, and a body was later discovered (minus the life jacket Colby's friends insisted he always wore while boating) and buried promptly. John DeCamp, a lawyer from Lincoln, Nebraska, and Colby's close friend and confidant, said Colby's death was not an accident. He stated that Colby was prepared to disclose that missing P.O.W.'s were working for a dope smuggling operation orchestrated by General Colin Powell, Pentagon official Richard Armitage, and George H. W. Bush.

Mrs. E. Howard Hunt: In December 1972, while George H. W. Bush was at the Republican National Convention, a United Airlines flight carrying Mrs. E. Howard Hunt, CIA operative and wife of Howard Hunt, (CIA operative and suspect in the Kennedy assassination) crashed. Believed to be carrying $25,000 in "hush money", she died in this crash.

Danny Casolaro: He was working on a book that tied together the scandals surrounding the presidency of George H. W. Bush. He told his friends he was going to "bring back" the head of the Octopus. Instead, his body was found in a hotel in Martinsburg, West Virginia, on August 10, 1991, an apparent suicide.

Don McCoy: Mr. McCoy had agreed the day before to turn state's evidence in an FBI investigation that threatened some of El Paso's most prominent business leaders. On February 19, 1988, he took off from El Paso International Airport, banked to the right and headed southwest for approximately 2 * miles before it slammed into the I-10 right-of-way and exploded. With him was his secretary and her 11-year old son. All three were killed.

Olof Palme: He was the prime minister of Sweden, assassinated in 1986. Oliver North, the golden boy of the Bush/Reagan machine, had met with Mr. Palme to discuss the possibility of obtaining false end-user certificates for the plethora of weapons that were being purchased, so that they would seem to have come from a country other than the U.S. Mr. Palme refused to participate, after the plan was presented to him. He was dead within weeks.

Archbishop Oscar Romero: Archbishop Romero was a true hero, speaking out against atrocities by a Bush/Reagan backed fascist government. He refused to appear in public with any army or government personnel, and was a voice for the thousands of tortured, slaughtered and oppressed in El Salvador. He was shot in the back while preparing Mass. The death of Archbishop Romero is one among many. There is not enough space to list the hundreds of thousands who died under Reagan/Bush-backed, right-wing governments.

Larry Nelson

Social climber

Apr 24, 2015 - 03:54pm PT

Been following the conversation for a few days.
Madbolter1 and Apogee have both made some well reasoned and good points to consider, Dingus and Jelezarian are always thought provoking.

I really think the Democrats, in their hearts, hope another player comes into play because of all the Clinton baggage.
No matter what can or can't be proven, the Clintons have attained great personal wealth just by being in office.
The Clinton Foundation "seems to be" a money laundering operation for influence peddling of foreign interests. It just looks sleazy.
Outside of Democrat partisans, there is a widespread perception of dishonesty with Hillary.
In addition, Hillary is not that likeable a person and her personality is wooden. In today's world, likeability is an important trait.

I personally would like to see Hillary get the nomination. The circus would be in town.
We'll see who the Republicans bring to their circus.

I suspect that whoever is elected or which party wins, small business and the middle class will support the big corporations and the "47%".

madbolter1

Big Wall climber

Denver, CO

Apr 24, 2015 - 04:10pm PT

Good points, Larry. Thank you.

Prove it ain't true, dirtclaud & mb!

Why would I?

Throw up anything you can about Bush, and I'll go along. LOL

Can't stand him, so bring it on! I'll believe anything.

Anything, I tell ya.