French *Street Artist* Grafitti Tagging Joshua Tree N.P.

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Bullwinkle

Boulder climber
Mar 19, 2015 - 09:23am PT
Please remember to never look in a Mirror. . .http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2125293/Yosemite-Bolt-Wars


Hypocrite. noun
1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Mar 19, 2015 - 09:29am PT
So let me get this straight....Mister E gets a snarling slapdown, though he's clearly in the same camp, but trollworm gets an attempt at a thoughtful reply, though he's positing exactly what you're opposed to. Fascinating.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Mar 19, 2015 - 11:12am PT
That sunnuvabitch. I'm gonna kick his frenchy arse.

(Nice manip, Cosmic.)
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Apr 26, 2015 - 07:48pm PT
http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-graffiti-20150427-story.html

....On April 1, Saraiva paid a fine of $275 to the U.S. District Court in Los Angeles, officials said. He could not be reached for comment.....
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Apr 26, 2015 - 07:57pm PT
If he had done that stuff in some of the 'pueblos' near me, he could be dead by now. Cost would be significantly less than $275.



zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Apr 26, 2015 - 08:04pm PT

$275

Apparently you don't live near me. "El Pozolero" (the stewmaker) works a lot cheaper than that.

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 26, 2015 - 08:10pm PT
It's a very simple point.

Most users of national parks and parks in general go there to GET THE HELL AWAY from things like graffatitty and Urban Bligh, "the artist/show-off."

"Look at ME, mommy!"

The poorly-equipped ranger/LEO needs a target so he/she can take out their frustrations on those who tread heavily on the areas they are sworn to defend.

Death by paintball administered by duly-authorized personnel.

Or by a lottery system which allows the average park visitor to have a whack at these * * * *s.(4 letters, begins with "f").
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Apr 26, 2015 - 08:20pm PT
In January 25th, 2009, Santiago Meza Lopez (aka maker) shared his recipe to make “Pozole”, it include two empty oil barrels, several pounds of caustic soda, latex gloves, gas masks, and a pair of “teachers”, supposedly brought from Israel.

This is why it important to support Israel rather than Iran.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Apr 26, 2015 - 08:34pm PT
...however, i don't consider them "sacred" because i don't know what they mean
If that's the criteria then I can imagine most things are fair game.
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Apr 26, 2015 - 09:15pm PT
mira Lupe

rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Apr 26, 2015 - 09:57pm PT
Cosmic...LMAO
MisterE

Gym climber
Being In Sierra Happy Of Place
Apr 26, 2015 - 10:37pm PT
nice Cosmic- those are classic.

Stirring something up with copy/paste - BRB...

%^)
Gary

Social climber
From A Buick 6
Apr 27, 2015 - 05:27am PT
Iskander Lemseffer, an acquaintance of Saraiva and owner of Lab Art, a Los Angeles gallery dedicated to street art, expressed mixed feelings about the dispute.

"When it comes to street art, you do it big or don't do it all," Lemseffer said, standing beside a provocative work of his own: a replica of a movie Oscar on its knees cutting lines of cocaine. "But even I was shocked when I saw photos of what Andre did to that rock."

Los Angeles graffiti artist Kalen Ockerman, 43, who is also known as Mear One, said street art has a purpose that goes beyond the image.

"Graffiti art is the honest voice of the dissatisfied soul — it's a political act," Ockerman said. Then he added, "All Andre did was smear a work of art by mother nature with industrial chemicals to celebrate his own ego."

As the debate goes on, some private businesses forced to paint over graffiti regularly see a certain irony in protests by graffiti fans angry about tagging in national parks.

"I wish they were just as outraged over graffiti on other people's private property," said Lena Kent, a spokeswoman for Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railway, whose freight cars and engines are tagged on a daily basis.

"Playing devil's advocate: If provoking outrage is not part of your intention as a graffiti artist, why do it?" Jeremy Cross, an artist and curator at the Night Gallery in Santa Ana, said with a impish grin.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Apr 27, 2015 - 06:06am PT
Fvck all of that , it is entitled bullshèt
take away all their freedoms, make them work to eat gruel,shèt in a pit that they have had to dig, and live in tent cities under the same skies they hide from.
taggin' in the dark is a cowardly way to pull crimes.
It was mentioned in some passing way, on the morning news on CBS this morning. Right up there with NYC cops chasing coyotes [Click to View YouTube Video]
crøtch

climber
May 4, 2015 - 12:57pm PT
Combining the Drones in National Parks thread with this one.....

Street artist uses drones to tag hard to reach places.

http://www.wired.com/2015/04/age-drone-vandalism-begins-epic-nyc-tag/
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 9, 2016 - 09:02am PT
Our pal “Monsieur A" is back in the news. The L.A. Times posted up a sympathetic screed about him this morning.

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-graffiti-joshua-tree-20160707-snap-story.html


According to The Times, he's not an ass hole. He's a "bon vivant", and his asinine scrawl all over our rocks is "a wink — a 'clin d’oeil' — to his fans."

Instead of "impish...impresario", I would have gone with "rat-faced little runt" for a description, but I'm biased.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Jul 9, 2016 - 12:32pm PT
From a 2013 interview

“Everything I do comes from the attitude I learned from graffiti.If I want to do something, I do it. If I want to paint this rooftop, if I want to paint this train, or a place that’s very difficult to access, I’m going to go and paint it. And I’ve kept that attitude with everything I do. I want to do a movie — I do it. I want a nightclub — I’ll do it.”

entitled little f*#k? I think so

He has apologized for his JT antics and swears he will not paint natural feature in the future.
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Jul 9, 2016 - 12:50pm PT
“Graffiti should only be painted on what humans have built — not on nature’s land and rocks,” he said, nibbling on French pastries at an outdoor lunch table in Hollywood. “Joshua Tree was the wrong place for it, and I am sorry.”

Who removed the graffiti from the boulder in the parking lot?

“I did,” he says. “Four days after I put the graffiti on the rock, I cleaned it off with a bottle of water, a brush and sand.”

Interesting that the lynch mob at Modern Hiker sent Park Rangers on a wild goose chase looking for more graffiti that didn't exist.

“by making people think I went all over the park to deface it, and by posting a 20-year-old image taken from one of my websites of Mr. A on a rock in Brittany, France and using it as possible evidence of vandalism in Joshua Tree.”

“As a result,” he adds, “park rangers had to spend hours and days searching for nothing.”

Mr. A cleaned up his own sh!t, apologized, and paid a fine.
Seems like Modern Hiker cost the Park more money than Mr.A....

Maybe they need to pay a fine and do some apologizing.
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