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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Mar 15, 2015 - 09:23am PT
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First they come with their poff, and now this?
I like their wine and cheese, but seriously, they have a real problem respecting natural resources.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Mar 15, 2015 - 09:25am PT
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A smaller rock with an "XO" painted on it was indeed inside the park boundaries and it looks like the paint has been removed. I'm a bit unclear about the larger piece of "Mr". The article discusses two tags simultaneously.
On Instagram, André replied, "This mr was made with love at friends privet back yard and not in your national park! [sic]" However, a thorough investigation by Modern Hiker and its readers revealed that the rock indeed was inside Joshua Tree, near the trailhead of the Contact Mine—confirmed by a reader in the area who took a photo and posted it on Facebook. André locked his Instagram account and deleted the photo shortly after being called out by Modern Hiker, but it has been saved for posterity on their own account.
Can anyone clarify if the small or large boulder is the one at the trail-head?
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Mar 15, 2015 - 09:32am PT
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If you read everything.. (not just that initial link)....The maps and pictures in some later posts on Modernhiker's site make it look like its the little boulder, not the large one that was found inside the park. I'm guessing the large one is somewhere inside the park based on dickwad's reluctance to cough up a private land owner though.
Edit to add: I don't think its ok even on private land. Paint a goddamn building if you need to make a statement.
Edit: Modernhiker is a class act btw
Quote Modernhiker:
I can’t tell you if there’s a direct link between things like this and the truly staggering amount of graffiti that’s appeared in Joshua Tree over the past few years, but when street artists as famous as Mr. Andre post photos that even appear like they’re painting in nature without permission, it sends a powerful message that the outdoors is a fine canvas for your street art. And that, we feel, is a message that needs to be stopped.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Mar 15, 2015 - 09:33am PT
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What would be nice is if the NPS brings charges on him and makes sure he is no longer allowed to travel to the USA. Seems possible
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Mar 15, 2015 - 10:09am PT
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I just read the instagram thoroughly... to clarify...its the little boulder that was found at the trailhead within JT park.. the article in the initial link confuses the facts about two separate incidents.
http://www.modernhiker.com/2015/02/27/is-mr-andre-tagging-in-joshua-tree/
Under the picture of the large tag it says...
THIRD UPDATE:
Jeff from SoCalHiker noticed this image on Mr. Andre’s web site (under Graffiti, Mr. A if you’re interested).
Not sure where this is but it certainly looks like Joshua Tree, doesn’t it?
Reader DESERTED just noted the EXIF data in this image is from July, 2013. We still don’t know where this is but it’s definitely not from this recent trip to Southern California. It does, however, show his willingness to tag on natural surfaces.
This was from 2013 though... it may have been located by now?
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Mar 15, 2015 - 10:22am PT
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Funny. Mr A's “graffitis are all about love and have the greatest respect for nature.” But when asked to clarify location and permission to do the "art work", the answer is F-you. Sounds like love to me.
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Bullwinkle
Boulder climber
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Mar 15, 2015 - 10:39am PT
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Supertard, home of a bunch of whinny hypocrites. . .when James erased the Lighting Bolt , aka Grafitti you all had a fit too. . .stupid Americans. . .
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Mar 15, 2015 - 10:48am PT
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^^^^^^^^^^Overgeneralizing, at least a bit. So someone removed the lightning bolt once? Huh.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Mar 15, 2015 - 10:53am PT
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Aw, Dean, you zinged 'em with that lightning bolt, didn't ya?
Good one, dude.
As to this artist's "art," his stick figures suck.
Tami could do better than Mr.A.
His sauce, c'est weak.
Any "message" there is becomes forgettable as soon as the mind realizes how bad the art is, why look at it other than to marvel at l'audace?
One wonders, though, how much of our NA petroglyphs are nothing more than bath room humor.
One also wonders, how does one remove an unsightly or lewd petroglyph?
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Mar 15, 2015 - 12:55pm PT
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Thank you, Tami.
Once for the understanding of my remark (sorry if it got to you, Locker, but I was, in my way, attempting to draw our resident expert into the picture, in a manner of speaking) and again for such lucid and high-toned criticisms of street punks, er, "artistes."
I'm a big fan of Christo, in spite of his name, which may be short for Christoforo. Christ, I'd like to think that's the case.
But his works are creative while not actually being disruptive because their effects are unseen for the most part, and do little environmental damage, I'm pretty sure.
I had this flash of a team of taggers spreading out in the Marin hills and going to work on his sheets...
Thanks again for the insights.
Cheers!
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Mar 15, 2015 - 01:18pm PT
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It is a pathetic display of ego and nothing more. The utter lack of respect for the existing beauty he is defacing with his foul "art" is contemptible at the least.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Mar 15, 2015 - 01:41pm PT
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Thanks again for the insights.
Yeah, ditto on that one. I enjoyed the depth of understanding there too.
Reminds me of something I read once:
The high mission of any art is, by its illusions, to foreshadow a higher universe reality, to crystallize the emotions of time into the thought of eternity.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 15, 2015 - 02:12pm PT
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Christo's art installations are boring as hell, until one of them kills someone. Then they're terrifying.
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hobo_dan
Social climber
Minnesota
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Mar 15, 2015 - 05:26pm PT
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It's ugly---But is it art?
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Mar 15, 2015 - 06:09pm PT
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Hey, I DID SAY THAT I WAS A BIG FAN!!!!!!!!
IN VIEW OF ALL THE TRASH TALKING...
I'd like to say I'm not all THAT big a fan of Christo, just that I've been impressed a few times and figure no harm no foul.
Sort of like Locker's literary ef-farts, notable for intellectual sophistication as well as its artificial (as opposed to naturalistic) qualities.
He is a Modern Mannerist. I hope that label sticks like glue. Like a large butt plug in blue. :0)
True blue. I like the way you stuck up for poor defenseless Tami, bud.
Who casually mentions her book Humph about the world's tallest big mountain and then criticizes modern humanity's fixation with SIZE!!!!!!
Just kidding the kidder, kid.
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Mar 15, 2015 - 06:13pm PT
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Mr. Azzhole is more like it . . . eurotrash fool.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Mar 15, 2015 - 06:40pm PT
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Yeah, ditto on that one.
Ditto-head me too. Tami, that was so well articulated... Gosh.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Mar 15, 2015 - 07:48pm PT
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Yeah. Let's hope crisco's 'over the river' never makes
it over the Arkansas near Buena Vista, CO. . .
(It's pronounced buuna vista!!!!
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chill
climber
between the flat part and the blue wobbly thing
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Mar 16, 2015 - 09:30pm PT
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the eurofag
No need for that. Lets just call him a duche and leave it at that.
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MisterE
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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Mar 16, 2015 - 09:38pm PT
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I actually like Mr. A - it is too bad the ego had to get in the way of great street art. He's got some stiff competition, both better in a different way.
Mr. A does have a certain joy, a bit broken with the bad eye, but dancing anyway... in simple line form.
Just so I am not on the wrong side of the line here - my wife is mad as hell, and I support her completely...
LOL. She just said "Keith Haring rip-off with less effort" as I read this post back to her.
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