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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Dec 14, 2014 - 11:04am PT
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Quercus kelloggii, the California black oak, also known as simply black oak, or Kellogg oak, is an oak in the red oak section (Quercus sect. Lobatae), native to western North America. It is a close relative of the black oak (Quercus velutina) found in eastern and central North America.
I don't know plants well and trees are mostly just large woody objects, too. TimidToprope will tell you...
I corded up more black oak firewood for sale in the N. Tahoe area, including Squaw, than I can believe. My bro Tim and I found a site where we could pay the owner a nominal stumpage fee for taking his trees, which he was planning on bulldozing to improve home sites that he was selling.
The Kellogg oak is, to me, THE native California tree, and they take care of themselves well, as long as there is a slope for drainage. It can look a little scraggly, otherwise.
The finest mixed conifer and oak forest I have seen in California's foothills are above El Portal at about 4,000 feet to 5,000+ feet (1,200 m. to 1,524+ m.), like around Yosemite West down to Wawona.
As far as I'm concerned, the best "native yard" story is one I just read about last week. A woman's neighbors hated the yard she chose to create around her suburban home, which was all native plants requiring no professional weekly upkeep.
Every few years, when it became a "weed-choked and overgrown lot," they would have the county come out and tell her to clear it off because it was, technically, fire-hazardous. She would comply. She had saved seeds and just did it over herself when it came time. Because she enjoyed working in her yard so much and had had so little to do for upkeep, she was not greatly offended by their "neighborliness."
OjaiLooch, this is among the excellent threads because of its high educational value. I'd still flunk a botany exam without a tutor, though!
Our thanks.
MFM
And zBrown, that's "Holliday," as in Kellogg.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Dec 14, 2014 - 11:30am PT
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Well, mfm, I've said it before, but it bares repeating, you know everything that I don't. I suppose the other guy was Wyatt Herb?
Cut & past job here - Cirsium occidentale
Western Thistle or Cobweb Thistle native to just about every county ion Kalifornia.
Not just thistling Dixie.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 14, 2014 - 11:34am PT
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Waay native...and still alive.
Bristlecone Pine, White Mts (for the non-Calis amongst us)
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Dec 14, 2014 - 11:55am PT
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Dec 14, 2014 - 12:00pm PT
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mongrel
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Dec 14, 2014 - 07:39pm PT
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One of the really good species in Joshua Tree and further north:
Echinocereus triglochidiatus, claret-cup cactus
FRUMY, nice Delphinium there: cardinale? nudicaule? Probably the latter, but depends where it's from - northern? SoCal?
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ryankelly
Trad climber
el portal
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Dec 15, 2014 - 01:39pm PT
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posted this shot of Arctic Willow a few years ago and Prof H helped me ID it...
Thanks again sir
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Dec 15, 2014 - 06:19pm PT
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Why yes OjaiLooch, but
How do you recognize them?
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mongrel
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Dec 15, 2014 - 06:27pm PT
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Could go 9000 posts if we had photos of just the plant species. But we can't let it get too far along without a photo of everyone's favorite California native plant. I'm surprised and disappointed I don't have some shots of some of the massive thickets of it I've had to tiptoe around, or some of the giant woody vines (like 4-6" diameter) you find on the north coast. :
Toxicodendron diversilobum
"wild TP"
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Not sure if this is a Jeffrey or White Pine???
Here's another one....
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Willoughby
Social climber
Truckee, CA
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Looks like Western White Pine from that crocodile-skin bark
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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DMT & Willoughby, The trees have short needles bunched in 3's. I did the bark smell test but it wasn't overwhelming. I'm thinking maybe a White Pine, beautiful eh?
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Willoughby
Social climber
Truckee, CA
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Sounds like you've found a new species! I'm joking, of course, but it's not impossible; Washoe Pine wasn't described to science until 1945.
All the white pines have their needles in fascicles of five, but sometimes a needle or two gets dropped from the bunch. How many bunches did you count? It sure looks like a W. White Pine to me, and the context is fitting.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Ha! sounds like I need to revisit the place.....the needles were short but I may have lost count having been mentally impaired by the altitude ;^).....it's the Rocky Canyon trail up to Pyramid Peak.
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NorCalNomad
Trad climber
San Francisco
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Jan 10, 2015 - 05:38pm PT
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No pictures of weed yet?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 31, 2015 - 11:06am PT
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I don't get how you people tell those plants apart, but it is admirable, I guess.
Me, I stick to the important ones: Poison Oak, Sequoias, cactus, and cannabis.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Mar 12, 2015 - 05:56am PT
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Two prominent Cali natives are drought and deluge. It appears that drought has had the upper hand for half a decade.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Mar 12, 2015 - 10:54am PT
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Nice bloom in Borrego last weekend
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