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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Oct 26, 2014 - 12:40pm PT
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How do you recognize them?
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kaholatingtong
Trad climber
Nevada City
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Oct 26, 2014 - 12:52pm PT
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I loves me dogwood ( Cornus nuttallii ) . Planted a pinky in the backyard here.
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east side underground
climber
Hilton crk,ca
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Oct 26, 2014 - 01:19pm PT
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eastside native in her natural environment
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hooblie
climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
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Oct 26, 2014 - 05:08pm PT
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excessively pungent, intoxicating. this one fills the bill (as in snout) and to me, smells of raucous
homecoming when passing through it's zone ... "mountain misery" ... is the less than charitable name,
apparently not cherished by all or "bear clover" ... equally unsatisfying.
i pinch a bit and festoon any spare buttonhole
with a sprig of it to prolong the effect
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Oct 26, 2014 - 05:12pm PT
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Not wanting to mistake the forest for a tree, I decided to start here.
Then onwards to:
The Index to California Plant Names (ICPN) includes names from a variety of sources (e.g., specimens, checklists, floras) that have been applied, correctly or incorrectly, to California plants. Approximately 9,400 of 15,000 names presently included in ICPN appeared in The Jepson Manual as accepted names, names of minor variants, or synonyms; most of the remainder have come into use, or come back into use, correctly or incorrectly, since The Jepson Manual.
http://ucjeps.berkeley.edu/about_ICPN.html
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thebravecowboy
climber
hold on tight boys
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Oct 26, 2014 - 08:26pm PT
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of all states to be bornt from
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Willoughby
Social climber
Truckee, CA
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Oct 26, 2014 - 08:34pm PT
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OjaiLooch, if you haven't yet, you should look into finding your local chapter of the California Native Plant Society. Most chapters devote a fair bit of energy to gardening, sales of natives, etc. Usually tons of very local knowledge and always great outings in the field, too.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Oct 26, 2014 - 08:51pm PT
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well, I just take the pictures... Debbie does the id and the gardening...
Lilium parvum (Alpine Lily) Glacier Canyon, Mt. Dana
from a hike to the Dana Plateau
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Oct 26, 2014 - 09:00pm PT
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My son is 8th generation Tulare County, is he native yet?
The hills are aliiiive
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Oct 26, 2014 - 09:07pm PT
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Deinandra bacigalupii, Livermore Tarweed
Cordylanthus palmatus, Plamate-bracted Birds' Beak
what appears to be drops are salt crystals
another image showing their flowers
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Oct 26, 2014 - 09:20pm PT
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Oct 26, 2014 - 09:24pm PT
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What a pleasure to have Doc H. around, no?
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Oct 26, 2014 - 09:30pm PT
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one more... I have thousands...
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Oct 26, 2014 - 09:33pm PT
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8th generation is pretty damn good, LimpingCrab.
I was born in L.A. Both of my parents were born in L.A. On my Dad's side, my Grandfather, my Grandmother, and my Great-Grandfather were born in L.A. My Great-Great-Grandfather was born in San Francisco.
So I'm fifth-generation Californian.
My First-Cousin in Lemoore just became a Great-Grandmother. She's younger than I am, not even fifty yet ( my family tends to get this having kids thing out of our systems at an early age. I was born when my Mom was 17. Mom was done having kids before she was old enough to vote. ). My Cousin's new Great-Grand Daughter marks an eighth generation for my family here.
For native California flora, I got this:
These things won't grow anywhere else but California.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Oct 26, 2014 - 10:01pm PT
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Cool, Chaz! Haven't met many other 8th generation folk.
Great thread by the way, I always carry a few lbs of field guides with me and take note of every species I've identified, wish I would have taken more pictures now! Of course they wouldn't have come out as nice and clear as Ed's, it's a fun game for a botany dork to try to identify his pics without looking at the captions.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Oct 26, 2014 - 10:09pm PT
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Oct 26, 2014 - 10:09pm PT
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Oct 26, 2014 - 10:11pm PT
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Oct 27, 2014 - 08:38am PT
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Ojai, cool thread! My son will love this!
I sent you a PM. Could you check and see if you got it?
Ed, many of your pix aren't coming through for me. Am I the only one?
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Oct 27, 2014 - 09:07am PT
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don't know why the images wouldn't "get through"
many are served off of my internet provider page, these should be OK? of course, I can see them but they may be cached...
the last two posts had images uploaded to the ST Photo server
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Oct 27, 2014 - 09:19am PT
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From the North slope of Tahquitz
Edit. Ed, I can't see any of your photo's either (except for the last two).
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Oct 27, 2014 - 09:26am PT
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One of my favorites is the chocolate lily or Fritillaria affinis. They are actually edible (the bulbs), and deer love the tops when they come up in early spring late winter.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Oct 27, 2014 - 09:35am PT
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Thanks for the address Ojai, I sent an email.
Yes Ed, it is only the last ones that are coming through for me.
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rincon
Trad climber
Coarsegold
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Oct 27, 2014 - 10:28am PT
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Our yard is all native plants
Mountain Misery...why do they call it that? It smells so good, reminds me of camping at The Needles and the Forks of The Kern put in. Hoping to get it to grow around our yard as ground cover.
Another one that smells great.^^
Sadly, a lot of the ponderosa pines around here are going to die from the drought and beetles...but the Oaks are doing okay.
The Buckeye's had a rough season too, short but sweet. Come on rain!
http://www.cnps.org/
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Oct 27, 2014 - 11:11am PT
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my guess is that xfinity and comcast changed the url for the servers... I notice I can't get this at work and that the browser times out with the message "server not responding"
such a pain...
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Oct 27, 2014 - 11:20am PT
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So Chaz, IS YOUR FAVORITE SONG "I lOVE LA"?
Ed - this is one of the problems.
http://home.comcast.net/~e.hartouni/botany/hikes/080402/eph06716a.jpg
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Oct 27, 2014 - 11:21am PT
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No. I hate Los Angeles! Seriously. L.A.'s a freaking hell hole.
I don't think Randy Newman really likes L.A. either. Listen close to the lyrics, and think about the streets mentioned in that song. Check out the cast of characters in that video.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Oct 27, 2014 - 11:27am PT
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^I hear that. I lived in Hollywood at one time.
I do like Randy though and luckily La Crescenta isn't in LA.
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Oct 27, 2014 - 12:05pm PT
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Waiting for the plumber, so what the heck. Natives in the front yard.
Island tree mallow or Malva assurgentiflora,
Over the last 10 years the some of the flora in the lower elevations of San Diego have been shifting to higher elevations. Personally, I think this is due to less winter rain. Two examples are the classic mariposa lilly and the royal penstemon. I used to find them in the Mission Trails regional park as late as 5 years ago, but no more. Got to get above 1500ft now.
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Oct 27, 2014 - 12:24pm PT
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Nice! ^^^
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rmuir
Social climber
From the Time Before the Rocks Cooled.
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Nov 16, 2014 - 03:13pm PT
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My two grown sons, California natives both, were born in the same SoCal hospital as their great-grandfather.
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two-shoes
Trad climber
Auberry, CA
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Nov 16, 2014 - 04:33pm PT
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The only California Native are the brown-skinned indigenous peoples that are descendants of the peoples who once roamed this land before there was ever a border to cross. That border crossed them, not the other way around.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Dec 14, 2014 - 08:41am PT
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"i'm your huckleberry"
-Doc Holiday
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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Dec 14, 2014 - 09:18am PT
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Dec 14, 2014 - 10:42am PT
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Dec 14, 2014 - 11:04am PT
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Quercus kelloggii, the California black oak, also known as simply black oak, or Kellogg oak, is an oak in the red oak section (Quercus sect. Lobatae), native to western North America. It is a close relative of the black oak (Quercus velutina) found in eastern and central North America.
I don't know plants well and trees are mostly just large woody objects, too. TimidToprope will tell you...
I corded up more black oak firewood for sale in the N. Tahoe area, including Squaw, than I can believe. My bro Tim and I found a site where we could pay the owner a nominal stumpage fee for taking his trees, which he was planning on bulldozing to improve home sites that he was selling.
The Kellogg oak is, to me, THE native California tree, and they take care of themselves well, as long as there is a slope for drainage. It can look a little scraggly, otherwise.
The finest mixed conifer and oak forest I have seen in California's foothills are above El Portal at about 4,000 feet to 5,000+ feet (1,200 m. to 1,524+ m.), like around Yosemite West down to Wawona.
As far as I'm concerned, the best "native yard" story is one I just read about last week. A woman's neighbors hated the yard she chose to create around her suburban home, which was all native plants requiring no professional weekly upkeep.
Every few years, when it became a "weed-choked and overgrown lot," they would have the county come out and tell her to clear it off because it was, technically, fire-hazardous. She would comply. She had saved seeds and just did it over herself when it came time. Because she enjoyed working in her yard so much and had had so little to do for upkeep, she was not greatly offended by their "neighborliness."
OjaiLooch, this is among the excellent threads because of its high educational value. I'd still flunk a botany exam without a tutor, though!
Our thanks.
MFM
And zBrown, that's "Holliday," as in Kellogg.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Dec 14, 2014 - 11:30am PT
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Well, mfm, I've said it before, but it bares repeating, you know everything that I don't. I suppose the other guy was Wyatt Herb?
Cut & past job here - Cirsium occidentale
Western Thistle or Cobweb Thistle native to just about every county ion Kalifornia.
Not just thistling Dixie.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 14, 2014 - 11:34am PT
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Waay native...and still alive.
Bristlecone Pine, White Mts (for the non-Calis amongst us)
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Dec 14, 2014 - 11:55am PT
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Dec 14, 2014 - 12:00pm PT
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mongrel
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Dec 14, 2014 - 07:39pm PT
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One of the really good species in Joshua Tree and further north:
Echinocereus triglochidiatus, claret-cup cactus
FRUMY, nice Delphinium there: cardinale? nudicaule? Probably the latter, but depends where it's from - northern? SoCal?
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ryankelly
Trad climber
el portal
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Dec 15, 2014 - 01:39pm PT
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posted this shot of Arctic Willow a few years ago and Prof H helped me ID it...
Thanks again sir
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Dec 15, 2014 - 06:19pm PT
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Why yes OjaiLooch, but
How do you recognize them?
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mongrel
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Dec 15, 2014 - 06:27pm PT
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Could go 9000 posts if we had photos of just the plant species. But we can't let it get too far along without a photo of everyone's favorite California native plant. I'm surprised and disappointed I don't have some shots of some of the massive thickets of it I've had to tiptoe around, or some of the giant woody vines (like 4-6" diameter) you find on the north coast. :
Toxicodendron diversilobum
"wild TP"
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Not sure if this is a Jeffrey or White Pine???
Here's another one....
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Willoughby
Social climber
Truckee, CA
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Looks like Western White Pine from that crocodile-skin bark
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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DMT & Willoughby, The trees have short needles bunched in 3's. I did the bark smell test but it wasn't overwhelming. I'm thinking maybe a White Pine, beautiful eh?
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Willoughby
Social climber
Truckee, CA
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Sounds like you've found a new species! I'm joking, of course, but it's not impossible; Washoe Pine wasn't described to science until 1945.
All the white pines have their needles in fascicles of five, but sometimes a needle or two gets dropped from the bunch. How many bunches did you count? It sure looks like a W. White Pine to me, and the context is fitting.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Ha! sounds like I need to revisit the place.....the needles were short but I may have lost count having been mentally impaired by the altitude ;^).....it's the Rocky Canyon trail up to Pyramid Peak.
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NorCalNomad
Trad climber
San Francisco
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Jan 10, 2015 - 05:38pm PT
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No pictures of weed yet?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 31, 2015 - 11:06am PT
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I don't get how you people tell those plants apart, but it is admirable, I guess.
Me, I stick to the important ones: Poison Oak, Sequoias, cactus, and cannabis.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Mar 12, 2015 - 05:56am PT
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Two prominent Cali natives are drought and deluge. It appears that drought has had the upper hand for half a decade.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Mar 12, 2015 - 10:54am PT
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Nice bloom in Borrego last weekend
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