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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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Very nice.
G_Gnome could help you there. He makes the best Margaritas around.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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"blending" is not juicing.
Juicing is probably a big mistake as it gets rid of the fiber, which is good for you (or at least that's the theory).
Blending, on the other hand, keeps everything that's in there in the first place. Can't see why "chewing" would improve nutrition compared to blending when the purpose of chewing is to make the food you're eating into smaller pieces, which is what the blender does, but much, much better.
Anyway, the whole point of Vitamix (or other high powered blenders) nowadays is to make what are called "Green Smoothies"--just Google it.
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MisterT
Trad climber
little gold truck
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I hear frozen fruit and nuts yields an ice cream like concoction.
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Dingus McGee
Social climber
Where Safety trumps Leaving No Trace
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Blending, on the other hand, keeps everything that's in there in the first place.
A subtle oversight when one has this view. Properties change.
Are you saying blending makes no changes to how we process a different product??
Other than people too lazy to chew and who do blending, no other animals chew/process their food for the stomach to this extent of pulverizing a blender achieves, yet these blenderless animals get their nutrients.
Pulverizing = no work for the muscles of the stomach and intestines and no work for the jaws. Eating pulverized food creates the lack of intestinal exercise like riding a bike downhill is lack of exercise for the leg muscles, just the ass gets sore.
And yes the blender companies claim more nutrition and your crap will be paste. Enjoy the paste you dumb bunnies.
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handsome B
Gym climber
SL,UT
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Buy bananas right as they expire (black), freeze them, then Vitamix them with cashews and a few drops of vanilla for a tasty summer freeze. This works well with pears to.
Never buy pasta/pizza sauce again. Heirloom tomatoes, half an onion, a couple of garlic cloves in a bowl. Nuke in microwave for 3-4 minutes and blend in Vitamix with basil.
Got too many squash? Substitute squash instead of tomatoes above and add curry for a tasty soup.
Make any sauce a vegan cream sauce with cashews instead of cream.
Want the smoothest hummus ever? Garbanzo beans, a little water, 2 garlic cloves, a teaspoon of cumin, half a lemon of juice, a quarter cup of sesame seeds (or tahini) and salt. Vitamix blends it to butter-smooth.
You got such a score!
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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mmmmm,I bet you can make some fresh...almond butter and peanut butter...
I'm envious of your win....good on you..
bergbryce, can the Nurtibullet crush almonds without getting stuck under the blade ?..
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Are you saying blending makes no changes to how we process a different product??
Other than people too lazy to chew and who do blending, no other animals chew/process their food for the stomach to this extent of pulverizing a blender achieves, yet these blenderless animals get their nutrients.
Pulverizing = no work for the muscles of the stomach and intestines and no work for the jaws. Eating pulverized food creates the lack of intestinal exercise like riding a bike downhill is lack of exercise for the leg muscles, just the ass gets sore.
And yes the blender companies claim more nutrition and your crap will be paste. Enjoy the paste you dumb bunnies.
I am saying blending is an improvement for digestion purposes--breaks it does so the nutrients can be fully metabolized.
Chewing does this to some extent, but our teeth aren't as good as Vitamix blends at thousands of rpm's.
Blending works especially well for things like kale, which our omnivore teeth and stomachs aren't optimized to digest.
Here's an analogy so that maybe you can understand it better:
no other animals cook their food, but we humans do, and it works great!
You have to remember that humans are basically domesticated animals at this stage of the game--what may work in a pure "state of nature" isn't necessarily what works best for us.
So we need clothes, external heat for cooking and warmth, etc.
We don't need super high powered blenders, but they make digestion more efficient.
Just start drinking those green smoothies and you'll start feeling better soon.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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breaks it does so the nutrients can be fully metabolized.
There are so many thoughts on blending out there. Some things I have read suggest just the opposite. That blending immediately starts the oxidation process thereby starting to rob some of the nutrients of their benefits. Other "research" suggests that many nutrients need the roughage and mastication process to be optimally absorbed by our body.
I'm no expert on blending, that's for sure. I do it quasi regularly just for the change in plate-full meals and I like the flavors that come from blending. I've had some righteous bombs that's for sure. I don't like the clean up.
Anyway, the offer is still on for the OP if you tire of the Vitamix! I'd make you an offer.
Susan
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bergbryce
climber
East Bay, CA
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green smoothies have become my primary breakfast. handful of kale, spinach or whatever we've got, plus some fruit, frozen or fresh (you won't throw away overripe fruit anymore, just blend it, you won't even know it was overripe) and water. You can add any combination of other stuff that you like. I usually add about .5 cup of greek yogurt to add some protein based oomph, or a few nuts. I don't understand why anyone would hate on eating food like this. It's popularity is growing in leaps and bounds. Sure it looks like pond scum, but it tastes great and gets me going for the day rather than feeling like I need a nap already.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Other "research" suggests that many nutrients need the roughage and mastication process to be optimally absorbed by our body.
Roughage is just fiber--the blender keeps ALL the fiber--it just grinds it up.
Here's the Google entry for mastication: "Mastication or chewing is the process by which food is crushed and ground by teeth. It is the first step of digestion, and it increases the surface area of foods to allow more efficient break down by enzymes."
Don't you think super-fine grinding with Vitamix (or other high power blender, although Vitamix is in fact what I use) "increases the surface area of foods to allow more efficient break down by enzymes"
Sounds like of some of you all have been brainwashed a little bit by "bro science"--just start blending healthy foods, especially dark green leafy stuff--it's not that complicated!
Edit: bergbryce, glad to see I'm not the only one who "gets it."
Maybe Dingus will see the light too, if not, so much the worse for him, the green smoothie brigade is growing every day!
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handsome B
Gym climber
SL,UT
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Susan brought up a good point about cleaning.
When you are done just fill your Vitamix 1/3 of the way with hot water, a couple of drops of dish soap, and throw it back on the motor to blend on high for 10 seconds. Rinse and you are done.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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^^^^^. Hey what a great idea!
I don't feel swayed by 'bro science" at all. I am not a juicing zealot. I enjoy it as a part of a well rounded diet. I just don't buy into the hype of juicing being the panacea many promote. My own opinion is that the body releases enzymes and engages in processes that are necessary and beneficial when breaking down roughage.
Don't you think super-fine grinding with Vitamix (or other high power blender, although Vitamix is in fact what I use) "increases the surface area of foods to allow more efficient break down by enzymes" No. If I look at 10 spinach leaves I see by far more surface area than if those 10 leaves were pulverized in a blender. Even broken down by chewing you'll still have roughage that the digestive system must step up and finish off.
Any way...I'm not debating... I enjoy some juiced meals but I'm not a soap boxer.
Susan
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bergbryce
climber
East Bay, CA
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Just for clarification... vitamixing, nutri-bulleting, mini-ninja-ing, etc. isn't juicing, it's blending.
Juicing is stupid, imho, unless all you really want is a cup of juice. With juicing, you extract just the juice (sugar) and leave behind all the fiber. This takes something like a carrot and extracts maybe 10% of its content as juice and discards the rest. Some juicers take their fiber and work it into other dishes, they are a small minority.
fyi... the nutri-bullet cleans with about 10 seconds of rinsing in the sink and costs about a quarter of a vitamix.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 9, 2014 - 07:16pm PT
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I've been lusting after a Vita-mix. If you ever decide it's not for you let me know,
Susan we are very much Happy with our vita-mix.
I was going to buy BLEND TECH, however got more than I bargained 4!
buttermilk,blue cheese chunks and mayonnaise...Blue-cheese dressing.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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No. If I look at 10 spinach leaves I see by far more surface area than if those 10 leaves were pulverized in a blender. Even broken down by chewing you'll still have roughage that the digestive system must step up and finish off.
You are enormously wrong here: The 10 spinach leaves pulverized have incredibly more surface area than in their native state. I am not saying this to "flame" you, but to try to educate you and others who may be reading this thread.
Here's a way to look at it:
Every surface area on the leaves that you see will also be surface area on the pulverized pieces. But the pulverized pieces also have new surfaces that are not surfaces in the leaves. That's what pulverizing does.
Let's simplify by considering the the perimeter of a circle. As everyone with a grade school education knows, the perimeter is (pi)(d) where d is the diameter.
If you bisect the circle to form two semicircles, the perimeter of the combined semicircles is (pi)(d) + 2(d). You have all of the perimeter of the circle, but you have added two diameters (from where you bisected the circle--one diameters length on each semicircle).
When you pulverize something, you maintain the surfaces of the original shapes plus you create new surfaces where the structure has been rendered.
Edit: The Blendtecs looked just about as good as the Vitamix, and just as expensive of course. Not sure about lower price "alternatives" such as Ninja.
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bergbryce
climber
East Bay, CA
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Blendtec has some hilarious videos of strange stuff being blended.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
The cheaper blenders work well for making green smoothies and such. They don't have the ability to do all the other fancy stuff a vitamix or blendtec does.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Susan we are very much Happy with our vita-mix.
Oh well! Enjoy!!!
I am not saying this to "flame" you Not taking anything you say as a "flame". I'm into the "who gives a fvck" stage! I'm a healthy eater so I'm not worried if I'm not juicing or pulverizing correctly. I either like it or I don't!
Susan
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Raafie
Big Wall climber
Portland, OR
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Is a pretty decent tool for grinding coffee beans at home rather than the store machine. Just don't add too much. Larger batches will come out less consistent.
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Dingus McGee
Social climber
Where Safety trumps Leaving No Trace
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Oct 10, 2014 - 04:42am PT
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blahblah,
you totally miss the point about digestion track exercise and what comes out the other end when you blend.
Get this: We have evolved without blended foods. Cooked yes.
The argument about increasing surface area increases enzyme action effectiveness may be true but here is where you miss the point of water soluble loss when we have high concentrations vs. the trickle of these water soluble nutrients we actually need and get by slow digestion.
Flood you body with these nutrients and you will soon piss 'em out. Waste, waste, and Waste.
The higher concentration of these nutrients puts us in a similar state of saturation as does white fuctose sugar we get in sodas.
And we get in a cycle of saturation and then loss--the rolly coaster.
Instantaneous surface area increase is exactly what we don't need.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 17, 2014 - 07:41am PT
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while watching NHL last night i noticed a vitamix in the locker room. quick juice action for pro hockey players!
vitamix strikes again!
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