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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Sep 19, 2014 - 11:14am PT
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The employees own the state, county, & city governments.
Not necessarily true.
Here in LA, in the last mayoral election, the candidate strongly backed by unions LOST. I would have considered LA to be a union town.
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ydpl8s
Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
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Sep 19, 2014 - 12:44pm PT
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Well DMT, I moved to Ca. almost 6 yrs ago and I can't exactly agree with your adulation of Ca. drivers. When my Colorado friends ask me what it is like driving in Ca. I say "everyone is absolutely sure that They have the right of way!"
I do however agree with your right to drive the way you want and it sounds like you and I drive a lot the same. When people bitch about how slow I'm driving, I usually say that I drive the same as I would if there was a policeman right behind me, can you say the same? (usually 2 1/2 mph over the speed limit, I know, it's pretty OCD of me).
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WBraun
climber
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Sep 19, 2014 - 12:47pm PT
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Californians are among the very best drivers
Until they go on vacation.
They drive like morons here .....
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ydpl8s
Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
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Sep 19, 2014 - 12:52pm PT
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Do use my blinkers, I think people in Co. use them more than here. The thing that freaks me out are the guys on motorcycles shooting the lane gap. I'm really surprised I don't see more of them cold cocked by rearview mirrors.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Sep 19, 2014 - 12:52pm PT
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Californians think they are the best drivers
That's why they get onto the freeway doing 45 and then immediately move to the left a couple of lanes.
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rincon
Trad climber
Coarsegold
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Sep 19, 2014 - 12:58pm PT
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DMT, it'd be interesting to see the back-up you'd cause if you tried to drive From Palmdale to L.A. on Angeles Crest Highway on a typical weekday morning around 6:00am. Probably would be a mile or more long behind you, and wide open in front! People commute through there and the speed limit is meaningless to them. I'm what you'd consider a selfish speeder, but those folks eat me for breakfast. Even the gardener rigs with hoses and leafblowers hanging off the sides go like bats from hell. Locally it's refered to as "The Palmdale 500".
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goatboy smellz
climber
लघिमा
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Sep 19, 2014 - 07:41pm PT
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Don't expect your taxes to get spent on something useful. That's not how we do things in California.
Good thing the rest of the country doesn't spend like California.
Just spent the last four hours travelling up to Horse Pens 40 on some of the smoothest roads, like a drop of water sliding over a windowpane.
Alabama does not have much going on but they sure know how to take care of their roads.
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landcruiserbob
Trad climber
PUAKO, BIG ISLAND Kohala Coast
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Sep 20, 2014 - 02:52am PT
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Okay not sure you opened your eyes in Italy but their tunnels and bridges are spalling to death.
I do agree with Germany, Switzerland , and Austria do have amazing roads.
The American west discovered mag chloride and it has pretty much destroyed all of the concrete...
Oh well jobs forever...
Something funny about Europe, lots of road construction with automated flaggers... That would never work on the mainland.
I was stopped for an hour driving into St. Moritz last year; just an automated flagger. Americans would drive around that in about 5 min.
Aloha
Rg
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 20, 2014 - 08:27am PT
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I did notice the tunnels in Italy, and I noticed NO spalling. The tunnels are remarkable engineering achievements, as are the elevated portions of the Autostrada.
Most of the rural highways in the Western USA are asphalt; Colorado still has some concrete highways, but Magnesium Chloride isn't a problem.
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