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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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If only YOU wouldn't write in such convolutions, fragments, half-truths and/or hyperbole maybe others could understand more than a third of what you post. And then, apart from the crazy-ass assumptions you seem to make as well (either about the subject at hand or other posters), maybe a few would be interested enough to reply. But given your history of off the wall name-calling, bs, smartass-iness, etc, I'm likely not going to be one of them. Sorry.
Talk to The Chief.
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WBraun
climber
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Jim is right
All the criminals found their way into power and are running the world.
USA is run by criminals.
The criminals redressed all the laws to make it look like they are laws.
Instead they are designed to make everyone into their sheep ......
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crankster
Trad climber
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I'm not interested in your opinion, Jim. On anything.
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crankster
Trad climber
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I'm bored 3 words into anything you post.
Literally, snoozing.
Liberal..I think not.
For the record, Jimbo, I think you suck, too.
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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jim's posts (sans recent titty tat) are concise, cogent, and circumspect here. They also have yet to be rebutted.
It's helpful to remember that violence and bigotry must be instantiated within an individual. Those who engage in do so for a whole variety of reasons; status , revenge , greed, loyalty. Broad brushing with 'religion' as one's silver bullet provides a nonsensical 'scientific' root cause analysis that doesn't at all inform any viable analysis of options or their desired outcome. Inconveniently, outrage is not a strategy.
So far Ive seen no specific action plans suggested amidst all this bluster. Iraq is now effectively partitioned along sectarian lines. The Sunni region is largely contained by more powerful military forces. Perhaps this is the one path to achieving a durable stability in the near term.
'punishing' the beheaders is a different objective entirely. A more surgical approach to that, if that's even possible, seems more apropos there. Perhaps the more dangerous ISIS leadership could also be targeted... IF their successors arent even worse. Executing such action isnt child's play, however.
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crankster
Trad climber
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"No specific action plan"...??
Where would this specific action plan be discussed? On TV? Facebook?
Maybe it is being discussed by military officials with years of experience in foreign affairs and warfare. Elected officials (elected by us) looking at intelligence we no nothing of.
ISIS will be dealt with. They are not surging across the border.
Reasonable people will make the decisions. Luckily, climbers won't be consulted.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Reasonable people will make the decisions.
Supposedly 'reasonable people' have been making decisions about the Middle East
for a hundred years. The results have been rather underwhelming.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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The ISIS guys say they're on a holy war, and I'll take them at their word.
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crankster
Trad climber
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While ya'all discuss history the president has to actually DO something. Like garner support from other countries so the US doesn't have to act alone.
The discussing is the easy part. The doing something, that's trickier.
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crankster
Trad climber
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Oh man, you're going all far left conspiracy nonsense on me now.
You don't know what you are talking about.
Petroleum. Oh man.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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JB,
That was more said than enough
a Holy war is just that, a holy war. With today's internet connectivity, it's gotten way easier to decipher the teams.
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dave729
Trad climber
Western America
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A prediction, a question, and advice.
Yuri Orlov: You know who's going to inherit the Earth? Arms dealers. Because
everyone else is too busy killing each other. That's the secret to
survival. Never go to war. Especially with yourself
Yuri Orlov: There are over 550 million firearms in worldwide circulation.
That's one firearm for every twelve people on the planet. The only question
is: How do we arm the other 11?
Yuri Orlov: The first and most important rule of gun-running is: Never get
shot with your own merchandise.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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dick a tug.
you know, as long as it feels good! with one's own sacrificial of life to get 72 virgins on the other side and all..
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crankster
Trad climber
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The president’s plans for a major address came just days after he returned from a NATO summit meeting in Wales, where he and top members of his administration worked on the sidelines to rally international support for a coalition to confront ISIS in Iraq and Syria.
Let the experts deal with this, climbers.
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Supposedly 'reasonable people' have been making decisions about the Middle East for a hundred years. The results have been rather underwhelming.
No doubt about it. ISIS, is a product of years of decisions with long run impact, made using short range considerations.
Consider the way the West dealt with the ME and Africa in both the world wars, for example. Tribal considerations, didn't get much input.
The map of the Middle East is being redrawn by them. It's ugly but their reality is ugly. Grossly overpopulated, for one thing.
Will be interesting to see the affect of daily public executions on the quality of life in Raqqa,the current ISIS headquarters.
Sit back and enjoy the ride.
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crankster
Trad climber
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Republican neocons who plunged us into the Iraq War bear the burden of the blame.
Now they want back in power.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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60-70 years? This has been brewing since the 'Prophet' Mohammed died and won't end until
all those phukheads kill each other off.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Maybe Saddam Hussein should have been left in power...? We can always go looking for those WMD again...
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Feckless geopolitics....a yoke no president has chosen to throw.
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