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WBraun

climber
Sep 2, 2014 - 07:58am PT
LOL ......
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Sep 2, 2014 - 08:29am PT
Religions are not the problem.

Sociopaths expanding and exploiting divisions created by those differing religions are. Most people however do not ask "Cui Bono" when seeing coordinated, expansive (and expensive) violence crop up like ISIS. The easy explanation is what MSM is feeding us and to a large degree what the history books have lied to us about.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Sep 2, 2014 - 08:38am PT
This bullshet riff between Shia and Sunni's has been going on throughout that region since their dumbass *religion got established

It really dates back to a family squabble over who would control the franchise and booty that happened immediately after the founders death.


Religions are not the problem.

Sociopaths expanding and exploiting divisions created by those differing religions are.

That would be true if we weren't talking about a religion (cult) founded by a sociopath.

(there have been more than a few of those.)
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry ass blinded Sheep
Sep 2, 2014 - 08:39am PT
It really dates back to a family squabble over who would control the franchise and booty that happened immediately after the founders death.

Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuup!


Religions are not the problem.

Sociopaths expanding and exploiting divisions created by those differing religions are.

Ah, which "religion" was not founded by some sort of sociopath?


Please do remember that their is a vast difference between "Religion" and practicing "Spirituality".
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Sep 2, 2014 - 09:43am PT
What founded a religion 2000 years ago has no bearing on how the "believers" today view their imaginary friend(s). All religions are cults likely founded by people long ago to benefit themselves. Similiar exploitation throughout the subsequent decades and centuries results in a set of beliefs probably unrecognizable to the original creator.

Most people, regardless of race or color or religion, are good and want the same things. Unfortunately there are few critical thinkers in any society and rifts in beliefs, or skin color, or geography are easy to magnify and exploit. Throw in a healthy % of sociopaths to organize and work the killing machinations and you have otherwise good people now killing other good people for the sake of make believe bullshit covering for the crimes of the oligarchs.

Same as it ever was. The only difference now is the Internet. Perhaps more people will now wake up. Perhaps less blood can be shed.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Sep 2, 2014 - 10:27am PT
Those ISIS death mongers have trained themselves over the past 1500 years.

Which means these really, really old guys are tottering at us on their walkers.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Sep 2, 2014 - 10:29am PT
Same as it ever was. The only difference now is the Internet. Perhaps more people will now wake up. Perhaps less blood can be shed.

Great evils come and go. Their lifespans seem to be shorter the more light shed on them. Sad so many suffer even during a short time they exist.
PotatoHead

Trad climber
Nunya,ID
Sep 2, 2014 - 10:58am PT
What a mess. RIP

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-steven-sotloff-beheading-video-20140902-story.html
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Sep 2, 2014 - 12:07pm PT
Pure propaganda to get the American public to support MOAR WOAR.....

The domination of the US dollar is at an end and WOAR is needed badly. Just wait for the "ISIS" attack on something stateside.

I need to watch Wag the Dog again...
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Sep 2, 2014 - 12:09pm PT
ISIS is not doing what it's doing for the good of the American dollar, I promise.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Sep 2, 2014 - 12:50pm PT
Truth is the vast majority of Americans don't give a damn about ISIS, muslim on muslim violence, wars in the middle east, beheading journalists, enslaving women and kids.... none of that.

Unless its happening to them or theirs.

So if its happening to YOUR them or theirs, I encourage you to go ovjer there and fight side by side with your brethren.

GO!

DMT
mucci

Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
Sep 2, 2014 - 03:03pm PT
Another us journalist was just beheaded.

What to do...

Tvash

climber
Seattle
Sep 2, 2014 - 03:09pm PT
"Truth is the vast majority of Americans don't give a damn about ISIS, muslim on muslim violence, wars in the middle east, beheading journalists, enslaving women and kids.... none of that."

Who's truth would that be? Not one supported by data, apparently:

http://politics.suntimes.com/article/washington/most-americans-worry-about-obamas-lack-strategy-isis/tue-09022014-1236pm

Perhaps, just perhaps, the failed American invasion of occupation that gave birth to ISIS makes Americans somewhat circumspect about how our country should counter that threat. I think that's called being smart.

Just a thought.

Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Sep 2, 2014 - 03:15pm PT
When I say 'give a shit' I mean more than answering some sound-bite asswipe of a poll.

Take that poll of yours and stick it up some American never-served ass.
DMT
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Sep 2, 2014 - 03:46pm PT
DD 214 (got one) or no - I wasn't aware one needed to have served in the military to be concerned about or support action against ISIS.

ISIS cut a couple of journalist's heads off, and that sucks - particularly if you're one of the two - but that was designed to get folks to freak the f*#k out, and boy, did it work!

Is ISIS THAT much of a threat, though? Not really. They're good at leaking into a power vacuum, like Mosul and Tikrit (originally Sunni anyway - they're just restoring the status quo there), but elsewhere? Nah. They got their asses kicked out of Jordan, where they began. The local Al Qaeda franchises largely booted them from Syria. Nobody likes an out-of-towner swaggering in and telling the locals what's what.

Will ISIS take Baghdad? Probably not. They actually suck at coordinating fighting against an enemy that doesn't actually slip out voluntarily - with the exception of about 1000 Chechen fighters, who really are bad-asses.

Will they squirt north? Nope. The Kurds would mop the floor with them, and they know it. What they have done is partition Iraq in a way that was pretty much inevitable after Bush destabilized the joint in 2003 - SU-NNI! SU-NNI! SU-NNI! and that's where it will stall. So far, it's been all getting their asses kicked or scraping up low hanging dates with them.

But hey, feel free to freak the f*#k out and demand the US do something truly, abysmally stupid (UH-gain) because of those two beheadings.

By all means, be the audience a few Jihadist performance artists want you to be.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Sep 2, 2014 - 03:50pm PT
Its all about you tvash.

(jesus)

DMT
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Sep 2, 2014 - 04:01pm PT
No, it's all about keeping your thinking cap on and not running over the cliff with all the other lemmings.

With you, however, it does, in fact, seem to be all about me ;)
Binks

climber
Uranus
Sep 2, 2014 - 04:04pm PT
i don't care who killed who in the middle east
or in Israel.

and i don't want to pay a single dime for us defense corporations to kill people in mud huts with million dollar planes and missiles. sorry no. i don't care.

i vote no. clean up our own country. stop crime here. stop robbing the people and destroying the land HERE.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Sep 2, 2014 - 04:04pm PT
the failed American invasion of occupation that gave birth to ISIS

just a wee-bit simplistic. /sarc

My sense is, you think you know more, a lot more, about ISIS and what makes them tick than you do. In this regard, you're no more helpful than The Chief on the climate thread. :(

There are as many crazies on the far left as there are crazies on the right. NO where is this clearer than what they have to say regarding Islam, partic re jihadi Islam and fundamentalist Islam.

Opinions of every stripe. On the left. On the right. It's not unlike what Seven said: "You lack harmony, cohesion. It will be your undoing."
Binks

climber
Uranus
Sep 2, 2014 - 04:11pm PT
nobody cares.

in another week, nobody will even remember.

the media is owned by a few large corporations.

over 100 people got shot in Chicago on the 4th, but that really wasn't big news.

nobody i know even talks about the major news corporation headlines.

it makes ZERO difference to daily life, and it's all fabricated to suit a political agenda one way or another

sorry "news" corporations, Al Qaeda at least sounded vaguely threatening.

ISIS crisis, whoo hoo!

next year it will be what ?

it's a constant crisis!!! it never ends! lol. and if I'd never once paid attention, my life wouldn't be any different one way or another. sorry, no, i don't feel any panic whatsoever. fail.

there's millions of people living in shanty towns, it's not a crisis. what's a crisis anyway?
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