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Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Aug 29, 2014 - 11:41am PT
So what would president Trotter do?

If I had this mess dumped in my lap right now I would send in ground troops. Unfortunately , considering the nature and growing threat of ISIS, there is really no other option at this point.

I can tell you what voter Trotter did: he voted twice against Obama --- who he considers a radical leftist ideologue with a narcissistic personality disorder.


dave729

Trad climber
Western America
Aug 29, 2014 - 11:47am PT
Dingus -uh-huh. 'boarder' may convey the truth in this case.

boarder:a person who lives and has daily meals at another person's house or at a school. True, these kids are not paying their hosts. The government is.
Boarders.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Aug 29, 2014 - 11:47am PT
ideologue with a narcissistic personality disorder.
You just described all politicians didn't you?





he voted twice against Obama


Yeah, Nursing home McCain, Palin the genius, Romney the hairdoo, and Ryan the pube would've done so well with all this.


Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Aug 29, 2014 - 12:20pm PT
You just described all politicians didn't you?

Every individual has a certain level of narcissism required for a reasonably healthy psyche.
It's true that many politicians , CEOs ,etc , are highly narcissistic ----more so than ordinary people.
Then again there is the malignant narcissist --- who must get a very high "narcissistic supply" to maintain his bloated false self ---or he runs the risk of unravelling. Recently Obama's supply has been very scarce and of low grade quality--- especially considering what he's been accustomed to.

If you support Obama then you need to send some loving adoration and a messianic glow his way. Like you once did--- when he was flanked by Grecian columns and his voice boomed forth in a reverb. Remember.
Of late the guy really looks and sounds miserable. If this keeps up then he perhaps runs the potential risk of experiencing psychotic " mini-episodes" . Not good for a sitting POTUS, not good for the rest of us ---and much more serious than his usual incompetence and lack of engagement.
( this "lack of engagement" is itself one of many reactive strategies of the serious narcissist)
Binks

climber
Uranus
Aug 29, 2014 - 12:27pm PT
I love all the pictures of multi million dollar missles being used to kill guys with Walmart level weaponry.

F*#KING LIES, ALL OF IT. LIES AND PROPAGANDA so the machine can continue making money unabated.
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Aug 29, 2014 - 12:33pm PT
^ ^ ^
That's a reasonable assessment of Obama above, but my guess is that the situation isn't quite that complicated. He's at least a relatively smart guy. He knows his presidency "is what it is" at this point, generally pretty bad, maybe not terrible. I'd say he gets a good solid "C," but I could see a lower rating depending on what you think is important. (I do find his general contempt for the law to be somewhat troubling, but I guess that's what they teach at Harvard. (Law is a social construct intended to preserve dominant paradigms yaddayadda))
Anyway, he's generally disengaging, enjoying his golf more than ever, just counting down the days until he can live off the fat of the land as ex-prez. He's still young enough to enjoy several decades of golfing and shmoozing with celebrities, the only things he demonstrates any real passion for, and I think he's just phoning it in from now on.
And he's smart enough to know that basically doing nothing isn't exactly the worst thing in the world as prez--it's actually a pretty rational way to go out.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Aug 29, 2014 - 12:36pm PT
Here's where you can start, Ward:

Better yet, when you pass SF, Ranger, SEAL training, you could already be there! Let us know when you graduate BUDS and I'll buy you a new Mercedes of your choice.
mucci

Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
Aug 29, 2014 - 12:36pm PT
ISIS terrorist plot for sept 11th in Texas near the border....

Hmmm...

WBraun

climber
Aug 29, 2014 - 12:37pm PT
Obama can't do sh!t.

He's a puppet bought and paid for by the same pricks that made ISIS.

You people are stupid.

Believe all that bullsh!t you're fed every day on your bought and paid for main stream media.

Stupid sheep ......
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Aug 29, 2014 - 12:39pm PT
Fix us up Werner. Please tell us the solution, right after you finish telling us about your time walking a tough cop beat in Detroit.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Aug 29, 2014 - 12:51pm PT
Fix us up Werner. Please tell us the solution,

Is this all you guys can do to support Obama? To try to shift the responsibility away from the President and place it on his critics ----on a personal level.
Very weak and very telling, ---and very sad, and very stupid. The monumental stupidity that put this guy in the most powerful position in the world.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Aug 29, 2014 - 12:54pm PT
So sad.



WBraun

climber
Aug 29, 2014 - 01:02pm PT
Look up thread.

Binks gets it.

The rest of ya remain stoooopid .....
Norton

Social climber
quitcherbellyachin
Aug 29, 2014 - 01:19pm PT
I wonder how the ISIS attack on US soil will take shape...just a matter of time now

probably start out with sending Anchor Babies across our eastern border

who, after growing up, make their way to the Corn Palace in Nebraska

where they infiltrate the school system and local economy

and then unveil their true purpose, altering the genetic composition of the US corn crop
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Aug 29, 2014 - 01:52pm PT
Has anyone here expressed support for Obama?


I do. I think he has this exactly right. Enough bombs to discouraage them from making a run at our interests in Baghdad and Erbil and let the remainder of the Middle East, finally, get the religion it craves.

It's gonna get interesting, when they move into Jordan and Saudi Arabia. Toppling the Shia Holy Sites in the South of Iraq.

Can't see why anyone would want to throw our dog into this fight.
kev

climber
A pile of dirt.
Aug 29, 2014 - 01:58pm PT
Arm the Kurds, bomb ISIS and arm the Isralies, then step back and let the whole damn powder keg explode on it's own.


On a side note, if you want to know what's wrong with our country have a nice laugh at this...

Winooski Bistro's Bacon Sign Ignites Internet Storm

kev
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Aug 29, 2014 - 02:53pm PT
I do. I think he has this exactly right. Enough bombs to discouraage them from making a run at our interests in Baghdad and Erbil and let the remainder of the Middle East, finally, get the religion it craves.

Just what religion does it crave? Please forgive me, but the Middle East (better the Near East) has a very substantial population that is neither Shiite nor Sunni, that want no part of this conflict, and are getting slaughtered. I have no illusions that military force against ISIS/ISIL/Islamic State is no trivial proposition, but those who say that air strikes are the beginning and end ignore the nature of that nefarious organization.

DMT asked me earlier if I would send my children to war there, and I responded that they are adults so I don't send them anywhere, but if they (I have two daughters and one son-in-law) chose to join the military and go, I would encourage them. If I were useful, at age 63 with no military experience, I'd go myself.

We are watching the creation of a true terrorist state, with an administration that makes the Taliban, the Islamic Republic of Iran, or any other hostile power in that region seem downright civilized. They extract protection money (called taxes by governments), appropriate resources that they sell, clear out all who disagree or dissent, and are building a state that has the potential for unimaginable evil.

Am I tired of military adventures? Sure -- who isn't? If we and our allies don't take action on the ground, our children and grandchildren will pay for our mistake. Oh well, they already are in other areas, so what's one more?

John
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Aug 29, 2014 - 03:25pm PT
This might even get Locker on board to do something about these creeps!

[Click to View YouTube Video]
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Aug 29, 2014 - 03:48pm PT
Herr Braun is correct, stupid Americans.

Extremist jihadis are trolling us and we are climbing over each other to take the bait.

If they can portray us as anti-Muslim, they have made fools of us and we have done exactly what they want.
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Aug 29, 2014 - 05:17pm PT
The Islamic State - Support across the Islamic World

Jordan

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Islamic-States-appeal-presents-Jordan-with-new-test-372761

Since the civil war erupted in neighboring Syria in 2011, hundreds of Jordanians have joined a Sunni Islamist-led insurgency against President Bashar Assad. More than 2,000 men, ranging from underprivileged youths to doctors and - in one case - an air force captain, have abandoned Jordan for jihad in Syria, according to Islamists close to the subject.

At least 250 of them have been killed there.

But the Islamic State's recent accomplishments are helping to galvanize support like never before among radical Islamists who dream of erasing borders across the Muslim world to establish a pan-Islamic nation.

Saudi Arabia

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/29/islamic-state-saudi-arabia-rethink-extremism

Saudi Arabia is increasingly feeling the heat of the Sunni hardline blowback. While the Saudi government technically doesn’t sponsor Isis, it has promoted a fundamentalist Salafi interpretation of Islam that has encroached into the mainstream Sunni space. This has created the conditions, inside and outside the country, for extremism to breed.

The clergy is a powerful force in Saudi Arabia. Its influence derives from the fact that the royal family has entered into a formal pact with the sheikhs, under which the understanding is that the House of Saud can hold on to political power, while the religious establishment gets to dictate the national character of Saudi Arabia, one that has remained doggedly extreme. This vision has also been exported abroad by both state and non-state actors, the former as a clumsy substitute for a coherent foreign policy, by which the Saudi government contributes funds for mosques and charitable organisations in Muslim countries as a way of purchasing influence; the latter via personal wealth and the zeal of private citizens.

Libya

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/security/2014/08/violence-escalation-libya-militias-hiftar.html

Mohamad Hijazi, Hifter’s spokesman, described the withdrawal of his forces from their camps in Benghazi as a strategic move. However, medical sources, including the Libyan Red Crescent, said that they found at least 75 bodies, mostly soldiers in the National Army faction led by Hifter, whose control was restricted to Tobruk city and some areas in Benghazi.

The Red Crescent found more than 50 bodies inside the camp that was emptied by Al-Saiqa forces. Sources in the city's hospitals reported they had received 25 bodies.

Sources close to Hifter pointed out the weakening of the eastern Libyan tribes as the reason why Hifter’s forces failed to stand their ground. Moreover, the source said that these tribes were mistaken to bet on a call to stop the fighting, launched by Mustafa Abdel Jalil, the former president of the interim council who was appointed mediator between the fighting parties.
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