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BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Aug 24, 2014 - 05:49pm PT

how could flying through a land of eternal sunshine straddling a mechanical war pony that goes 110 mph at the flick of a wrist possibly make anyone happy?

Prolly being inches from death, coming out alive, seems "God-like"?

Ask Base104 about his experiences.
Captain...or Skully

climber
in the oil patch...Fricken Bakken, that's where
Aug 24, 2014 - 07:24pm PT
Religion is just another drug, like football.
What's so bad about no gods or when you die, you're dead?
Are you afraid?....
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Aug 24, 2014 - 08:14pm PT

Are you afraid?....

No not at all. Well, it could have been a motivator?

i think it's better then waiting to the last minute and having all these questions, and not having any time to get answers..
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Aug 24, 2014 - 09:14pm PT
Show me one single thing actually written by GOD...
and I will be an instant believer...

^^^ There you go!

Thank You God!


Oh ye of little faith..



Edit: That was just written of your avatar as an example, nothing meant personally!(talk'in bout the prior rhetoric).
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Aug 24, 2014 - 09:51pm PT

No GOD had anything to do with what I posted...

I should know...

I posted it.

Not even God the Creator?

Didn't ur "I" create that post?

WE are Brothers to Him, don't'cha know?
Mark Force

Trad climber
Cave Creek, AZ
Aug 25, 2014 - 07:15am PT
This is from a previous post I made about these topics that seemed to fit here.


Aug 27, 2013 - 12:47am PT
Apes throw their sh#t. They can throw a lot of it and they can throw it a long ways.

We've evolved to the point we can invent our own sh#t, a lot of it and in great variety. We become convinced that our sh#t is better than everybody else's sh#t and that they're stupid or evil if they don't believe our shift is the best sh#t.

We are so creative that we deceive ourselves into believing that we didn't just make this sh#t up and it is actually reality.

There's a guy who once said that by their fruits we shall know them. We could make up less sh#t and just make a point of showing up and being useful.

PS I just made this sh#t up.

Seems like ego is at the center of a belief that god looks like them and listens to and responds to their personal prayers. Seems like ego is at the center of the belief that the sciences that we have invented and the models we have developed account for all of reality and are perfectly accurate.
WBraun

climber
Aug 25, 2014 - 07:42am PT
Seems like ego is at the center of a belief

Ironic from a guy doing a lot of his own spewing in this thread making his own claims based on his own belief with no proof.

Check your own ego Mark .....
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Aug 25, 2014 - 07:48am PT
" Seems like ego is at the center of the belief that the sciences that we have invented and the models we have developed account for all of reality and are perfectly accurate."

Aaaand I know zero people practicing or interesting in science who believe this.

Tvash

climber
Seattle
Aug 25, 2014 - 08:10am PT
with Jesus, no less - "I'm not your Father, Luke...I'm your Brother"

I am learning SO MUCH about Christianity here.
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Aug 25, 2014 - 08:18am PT
Well THAT resolves the question of where the Universe came from.

The Self Eating Watermelon Theory.

3000 years of Yahweh debunked in under 5 seconds.
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Aug 25, 2014 - 08:30am PT
Christianity in 4 words:

Yahweh or the Highway.
Mark Force

Trad climber
Cave Creek, AZ
Aug 25, 2014 - 08:31am PT
Werner, almost all of us have lots of ego. A lot of people feel I'm full of it....... ;-)

The point I'm trying to make is that we all have beliefs about this god issue and none of us have proof. And, that's OK. There is a difference between claiming a belief and claiming that your belief is the truth with a capital T. I am questioning that position whether you're a theist or an atheist.

There are the edges of science that aren't so solid and there is religion which is all about taking stuff on faith. There are the values, morals, and ethics within religions that we can observe their effect and economies (benefits). Then there are philosophies and their ethics. I find the ethics within stuff Jesus, supposedly, said about how to act/be in the world that is compelling and that forms part of my personal philosophy.

But, being agnostic, my position is that none of us ultimately know. We just try to understand all of it the best we can and make sh#t up about it.

Jawon seems like a good guy and seems motivated by compassion to be of service. None of the stuff I'm posting is about doubting his sincerity.

Tvash

climber
Seattle
Aug 25, 2014 - 08:36am PT
Catholicism, bumper sticker version:

"Ass, cash, or mass, nobody abides for free"
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Aug 25, 2014 - 08:42am PT
Service?

Self-service, perhaps.

Call my crazy, but my definition of 'service' is doing things for others they want or need done without compensation.

I haven't seen much of that, here.

Um...I haven't seen that in this thread.The OP kicked off this thread with typical, provocative innernut name calling. That's fine with a bit of humor.

I haven't detected any of that from this source either.

Tvash

climber
Seattle
Aug 25, 2014 - 08:50am PT
Whether agnostic, theist, or atheist, an individual either attempts to define reality for others or not.

So far, I've seen no atheists here attempt to do that, but plenty of theists and agnostics sure have.

Control issues, probably. It isn't the 'ism', it's the individual.

Perhaps Miss Manners 101 would be a better class for you, Locker!
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Aug 25, 2014 - 08:56am PT
I'd respond, but I'm too busy checking everyone's typos.

I believe in service.
rbord

Boulder climber
atlanta
Aug 25, 2014 - 09:29am PT
Thanks Jawon.

My point is this. You started this thread of mass spewing about Christianity on our pubic discussion forum. You started it by implicitly disparaging the conversation that we're having (spewing). You created the thread because YOU need to tell everyone that you know the TRUTH, and if we don't change our beliefs to match yours, we will suffer eternal consequences.

But I'm the bully? When I said that self interest is high for all of us, was I bullying myself?

Thanks for your participation. I've offered a question that bothers me.
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Aug 25, 2014 - 09:36am PT
Jesus loves you, Locker.

Not like He loved your mom, perhaps, but still....
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Aug 25, 2014 - 09:39am PT
I think the distinction between 'not knowing' and out-and-out disbelief may blur a bit at the 99.9% mark, but I can't really know for sure.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Aug 25, 2014 - 10:20am PT
Seems like ego is at the center of the belief that the sciences that we have invented and the models we have developed account for all of reality and are perfectly accurate. -Mark Force

That is seriously messed up.

Perhaps this is one that just slipped out, that MF keeps in reserve to tell his anti-science, uber-religious clients?
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