Robin Williams--suicide RIP

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mike m

Trad climber
black hills
Aug 11, 2014 - 05:48pm PT
World According to Garp and Good Will Hunting were great movies. His stand up and Mork and Mindy were really good as well. Too bad.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 11, 2014 - 05:49pm PT
Anyone who followed Williams knew he had a lot going on inside. Freedom and peace may require desperate measures. I have not nor will I ever give as much to the world as he did. Nor have I ever come close to feeling so unhappy as to seriously consider that option. I can only imagine the pain that must be required.

I don't begrudge him his choices.. don't even know if I wish he were still here. Cause I wouldn't wish unendurable torture on anyone.

I wasn't him.I cannot know.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 11, 2014 - 05:52pm PT
As did "what dreams may come" Which I will be watching in tears tonight.

I doubt there is any other actor I would feel this sad over. Never have before. This is almost like losing a friend.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Aug 11, 2014 - 05:52pm PT
Williams suffered with bipolar disorder exacerbated by substance abuse brought about by a need to self-medicate. BPs have a very high suicide rate, needless to say.
He worked in an industry that heightened those manic/depressive tendencies. Perhaps a double whammy.
No doubt the phone calls started falling off in recent years ---- cutting off his manic supply and leaving him more prone to serious depression.
Who knows? Perhaps all this was accompanied by other health or financial problems.

Condolences to all his fans and family and friends.

BTW I always liked the fact that Williams never tired of giving the credit to Jonathan Winters as a profound and primary influence in his career.
Banks

Trad climber
Santa Monica, CA
Aug 11, 2014 - 06:10pm PT
The fact is, if everyone in this country who battles the same things he fought committed suicide, we've have millions dead every year.

That is no way to deal with one's demons, and only sends a message of hopelessness to others who are in the fight.

You have no idea what his battles were or how hard he fought them. Perhaps a lesser person would have ended their struggle a long time ago. You just don't know, nor should you pretend to know. Dealing with depression is not just a mater of toughing it out. You're view on this is not only simplistic, but uninformed.
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Aug 11, 2014 - 06:16pm PT
Any chance we can keep the suicide debate off this thread out of respect for the deceased?
With so many judgmental folks around here, this is the last place I want my demise announced.
nah000

climber
canuckistan
Aug 11, 2014 - 06:21pm PT
Cragman wrote: The fact is, if everyone in this country who battles the same things he fought committed suicide, we've have millions dead every year.

methinks it would behoove you to recheck the definition of the word "fact"...

as it stands you're either an arrogant and hypocritical fucKtard spouting judgemental bullshit literally the same day as a fellow human took action to end their own existence

or

you know the inner workings and personal histories of both robin williams and millions of americans.

hmmm... if nothing else, thanks for making that choice an easy bet for me to place my money on...
Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Aug 11, 2014 - 06:23pm PT
good by mr. williams.
i enjoyed your stay.

thank you for your marvel.
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujň de la Playa
Aug 11, 2014 - 06:33pm PT
Quite a rush to judgment with no personal knowledge or even news reports of why the man took his own life, if he did.

Sad for anyone to die at 63.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Aug 11, 2014 - 06:36pm PT
Each person has their own way of struggling to make some bit of sense out of these kind of things, like suicide . Not always easy.
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Aug 11, 2014 - 06:37pm PT
hey there say, ... always very sad, when someone dies... and sad, in more mysterious ways, when they chose, to die, their way, their time...

one must always remember:

we are all individuals:
brain patterns, fingerprints, are a 'physical' reminder of this...
and even tongue prints...

as a reminder, THAT all that we THINK, DO, and have a TASTE for,
whether in living (or as to death), is uniquely:
us, or our inner man...

thus, so is why folks' reasons for suicide, ARE uniquely theirs...
the list is long, and only the person may fully know why:



many times, a high possibility is this common connection:

when one gets no answers as to what they have so long, and
so hard tried to grasp, as to conquer, fix, or even understand,
well,
at that ONE crucial point, ENDING the process is all that makes sense...
the brain, overwhelmed, offers no other options, AT that crucial moment...
sadly, that means, death to the body, at that point)...
it does not EVEN mean that they like doing it--


there may be some folks that are cowardly (or self-love and pride to do this, or just plain devoid of feelings and not seeing humans as value) and don't want to face what they've done, but these are DIFFERENT issues, as to crimes, etc...

a human, fighting a personal 'what's wrong with me--wish i could get better' fight, is more brave than folks may ever know...

for SOME--each DAY has been faced for many HARD years, until this point...



*JUST added this note, as, i feel so bad to see families loved ones this way, and hear folks speak so harsh against them, after their death...

yes, the families DO know that they, the survivors have been hurt, too...
but they know more inside info, than anyone else, even if it is
just 'small clues' along the way... or left now...


condolences to his family and loved ones... living in the public
eye, makes ones life far more complex, for sure...
this just in

climber
north fork
Aug 11, 2014 - 06:42pm PT
Bummer, thanks for the laughs and great movies.
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Aug 11, 2014 - 06:46pm PT

Not only a great comedian, but a great actor.
RIP, you'll be missed, Robin
goatboy smellz

climber
लघिमा
Aug 11, 2014 - 06:47pm PT
Thanks for laughs Mork.
Good article that sums it up.

http://nowtoronto.com/movies/story.cfm?content=199194


If you’ve ever heard Robin Williams’s stand-up, you know he loved the word “Fưck”. He used it as punctuation, he used it to get the audience’s attention, he used it to differentiate himself from his cuddly TV personality at a point when he was famous exclusively for playing a goofy alien who wore rainbow suspenders.

And so, to honour Williams:

Fưck depression. Fưck addiction. Fưck mental illness. Fưck chemical imbalances. Fưck the black dog. Fưck everything and anything that drags a person down into that dark hole from which death seems the only possible escape.

Robin Williams is dead at age 63, reportedly a suicide, and Fưck that too.

The news of Williams’s death spread across Twitter Monday night with equal parts incredulity and denial, which harmonized almost immediately into another kind of incredulity and denial: not “this isn’t real” but “this shouldn’t be.”

Williams was that kind of figure to pretty much everyone who’d seen him over the last 40 years – Mork & Mindy, and the movies he made for families, guaranteed that children grew up with him in their lives; his stand-up work inspired at least two generations of comics, and the movies he made for adults offered a truly impressive range of feeling and complexity.

He won an Oscar for Good Will Hunting; he probably should have won another one for Good Morning, Vietnam, the role best tailored to his strengths, and for The Fisher King, my pick for his single greatest screen performance. (And if anyone had seen World’s Greatest Dad, written and directed by Williams’s old stand-up pal Bobcat Goldthwait, he might have had a shot at another.)

In the days to come, the focus will surely be on Williams’s comedy work, and that’s entirely understandable: they’ll talk about Jumanji, and his voice performance as the Genie in Aladdin, and maybe even bring up Robert Altman’s misbegotten Popeye.

But his dramatic work is where you find the real Williams – someone who was always searching for that expressive part that would break through to the audience and make them see what else he could do. There were key supporting roles in Dead Poets Society and Awakenings, which paved the way for his Good Will Hunting triumph as a sympathetic listener, and that fantastic guest shot as a suddenly bereaved father on Homicide: Life On The Street – a favour to series creator Barry Levinson, who’d directed him in Good Morning, Vietnam and needed an A-list movie star to draw viewers to his show.

There was that short run of schmaltzy prestige projects that cast him as the most feeling man on Earth – Jack, Jakob The Liar, What Dreams May Come, Bicentennial Man – but as soon as Williams realized those weren’t working for him, he pivoted into a period of grim, complicated projects: One Hour Photo, Insomnia, The Night Listener. And then he nudged back into comedy: Barry Sonnenfeld’s RV, the Night At The Museum films, License To Wed, Happy Feet and its sequel.

I’m trying to figure out where Mrs. Doubtfire and The Birdcage fit into this. They were clearly commercial decisions – and neither looks particularly progressive or sophisticated two decades later. But he gives his all and audiences clearly responded.

Talk of a Mrs. Doubtfire sequel was rattling around the web earlier this year, either because Williams wanted something to do after his TV show The Crazy Ones was cancelled or because a couple of Fox executives who grew up with him thought they could make it happen by sheer force of will.

I guess I can understand that. People wanted to see Robin Williams doing the things they loved watching him do best. And now he’s gone, that won’t happen.

No more Oscar gigs, no more surprise stand-up sets, no more unexpected appearances in his friends’ movies. We’ll see him again in the new Night At The Museum picture this Christmas, and with any luck we’ll be able to enjoy him for a few moments.

And that is the point. Fưck you, depression. Robin Williams will still be making people happy.
rlf

Trad climber
Josh, CA
Aug 11, 2014 - 07:03pm PT
"Sounds like another cowardly suacide." I don't think it works that way.

I promise that's not how it works at all. Very sad news.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Aug 11, 2014 - 07:07pm PT
Looking for sense in suicide is a fool's quest.


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Fưck depression. Fưck addiction. Fưck mental illness. Fưck chemical imbalances. Fưck the black dog. Fưck everything and anything that drags a person down into that dark hole from which death seems the only possible escape.

Robin Williams is dead at age 63, and Fưck that too.




What were Adam's first words to Eve?

"Stand back, I'm not sure how big this thing is gonna get."



Robin Williams, with his voice, really makes that joke sing. He could even pull it off in front of the Pope, I'd bet, as the true court jester he was.



Now...the funny man makes us sad. And wonder.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Aug 11, 2014 - 07:11pm PT
Looking for sense in suicide is a fool's quest.

Perhaps, but it's very natural, and very human to do so---and like suicide, not very likely to end any day soon.

MisterE

climber
Aug 11, 2014 - 07:17pm PT
He was a great comedic talent, RIP.

That being said...

I was working for Patch Adams shortly after Robin Williams played him in the movie.

Patch was desperately trying to raise money for his free hospital (where I volunteered for a year and a half), and when approached about the movie rights, Patch was pressured into taking no money.

He figured the publicity was better than not making the movie.

In the end, Patch recieved $0 from Hollywood, and also got $0 from Robin (who made bank for this movie and others at the time).

I hope he left something for Patch.
Michelle

Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
Aug 11, 2014 - 07:22pm PT
Wow. Been there buddy, I understand why you did it. RIP Robin.



tangen_foster

Trad climber
Danbury, Wisconsin
Aug 11, 2014 - 07:23pm PT
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