Why U.S. Elected Representatives are wrong about everything.

In the case of welfare, I am FORCED to pay an arbitrary amount of money to people I would not otherwise be willing to support, and that payment provides neither protection of my inalienable rights nor produce a product I could not otherwise produce on my own and that directly benefits me.

You have a very strange definition of 'entitlements'.

You might feel that there are those who receive Welfare develop an inappropriate level of entitlement attitude towards it, but pretty much the rest of the world defines welfare as a 'Social Program'.

And you are pretty spiteful about it, too.

I have known a number of people who are on welfare, and none of them wanted to start receiving it, and all of them did everything they could to get off of it, and back on their own feet, as soon as possible.

Of course, there are abuses....

and you seem to have gained the view that all persons receiving welfare wish to do nothing more than suck on the gov't teat for the rest of their lives, and that we should not (as a country) do anything to help those in genuine need.

Man, that's a negative view of the world.

MB -- "I am very unhappy to see the greatest nation on Earth slowly pitch off the cliff in exactly
the way that the founders hoped to avoid and that de Tocqueville predicted."

And then you have these stupid brainwashed idiot politards here babbling incessantly parroting MSM with no clue what's going on ......

Andddd... the puppet-masters win again: class warfare and class envy are alive and well.

Throw every one of the incumbents out of office as a first step.

There are plenty of good people in congress.

Strongly disagree, DMT. The only source of monetary value is what you can exchange it for. Since I am required to pay my taxes in U.S. dollars, and I can be jailed if I don't, I can exchange U.S. dollars for my freedom which, to me, has value.

In addition, labor is simply one factor of production. You can't eat unless you harvest a crop, but you can't plant a crop unless you have seed for the crop, and unless you water it, and unless you have soil in which to plant it, etc. etc. In general, production requires varying amounts of the following (in alphabetical order):

1. Capital;

2. Entrepreneurial leadership;

3. Labor; and

4. Resources (some older texts lump all resources as "land").

Trying to say that any one factor of production is "primary" leads to the equivalent of proving the chicken came before the egg or vice versa.

Incidentally, the popular "Marxist" idea that labor is the sole source of value contradicts what Marx himself believed. He used a labor definition of value (thus, if have to work four hours to buy a suit, the suit is "worth" 4 hours to me. It didn't matter to Marx that it took ten minutes of labor in the factory to make it.

John