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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Is it written in my genes?
It appears so but since you exercise and drink beer you're going to fend
it off much better. Sadly, exercise seems more effective than beer. ;-)
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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^^^
I'm always leery of those kind of associations in Fae's post, because third-world diagnoses and health care is a different animal than first-world western. A plausible explanation is that it just isn't diagnosed there. If the person isn't physically disabled or having acute physical symptoms they are likely to not receive medical attention/diagnoses.
Add that the multi-generational household is much more common outside western/first-world and taking care of grandpa who's losing his faculties is just considered a normal deal.
Scares the sh#t out of me too. Have it bad on one side of the family, and I don't have kids. Makes me wonder what will happen if I have it, no kids to look after me, a grim prospect.
And to add to the "exercise/diet wards it off" idea - the worst case in my family was my maternal grandmother. She walked at least 5 miles/day everyday, from about 50yo to her last days in her mid/late 80s. Ate the healthiest diet of anyone in our family. Read complicated books and did various logic puzzle and games and whatnot, daily. And she was a full blown case in her last 8 years or so. Other side of my family doesn't show it at all, despite a horrendous diet, no particularly intellectual engagement, virtually no exercise. (but hey, they've got a lot of parkinsons, and diabetes, so I got that going for me!).
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snakefoot
climber
Nor Cal
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here ya go. there have been associations with air pollution exposure... so buy a house near the freeway or a power plant, open windows wide and breath deep as much as you can.
just one example of many
http://tpx.sagepub.com/content/32/6/650.short
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feralfae
Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
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Elcap,
Yes your point has some validity, and as well, genetic associations have been made concerning Alzheimers. And yet, I have seen many cases of native peoples who were on many pharmaceuticals while under the care of various Indian Health programs, who have walked away or been rescued by their families, weaned off most or all of the medications, and have lost their "alzheimers disease" as their minds and bodies cleared. They also returned to much better health when all the side-effects of the pharma cleared.
So, a lower statistical incidence, even given cultural contrasts, may be linked to over-medication by corporate for-profit entities and their students who are trained in pharma-sponsored schools.
I don't think there is one way to look at this health problem: certainly it could be over-diagnosed in a pharma-laden patient, and under-diagnosed in a traditional culture where people are simply held dear and as part of the family as long as they wish to be here.
I, for one, am counting on my grandchildren and my Tribe to take care of me if I am confused and weak. We try to take care of each other, and avoid pharmaceuticals unless we have no other viable option. There is perhaps a place for corporate medicine and also a place for traditional medicine within a healing system.
Many studies have been done and much has been written on ways to lower the risk of Alzheimers:
"The findings were published online in The Lancet Neurology, a British medical journal.
For the study, the authors examined the medical literature and identified seven lifestyle factors that may influence the risk of developing Alzheimer’s. They looked at stopping smoking, increasing physical activity and mental stimulation, controlling blood pressure and diabetes, and managing obesity and depression. Reducing all seven of these risk factors could prevent as many as 3 million cases of Alzheimer’s worldwide, they estimated.
It is uncertain whether any of these lifestyle factors actually promote the development of Alzheimer’s. Advancing age and genetics remain the most important risk factors for the disease. But numerous population studies suggest that all may play a role in Alzheimer’s onset." https://www.alzinfo.org/articles/7-ways-reduce-alzheimers-risk/
(emphasis by me)
Thank you.
ferlafae
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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"Easy cure". Such stupidity.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Outside the Asylum
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Dingus may agree that posting to political threads on Supertopo, particularly right wing rants, is a pretty east test for Alzheimer's or worse.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there say... more stuff to think about, that i can share with my friend...
thank you... i think too, that i will call her tomorrow night...
lots of in depth stuff, too, from feralfae...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 26, 2016 - 08:51am PT
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^^^^^^ Well that would explain me Mum's sudden decline when she got Shingles.
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Karen
Trad climber
Prescott, AZ ~
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May 26, 2016 - 09:14am PT
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My Mother died and had an awful case of Alzheimer's. Since she had great physical DNA she lived far longer than she should have. It was literally years that she didn't know me and came to the point she didn't even know herself, lost her vision, couldn't walk nor talk. The only quality of life seemed to me was she enjoyed eating and would perk up a little when you would play church hymns.
Now my sister has been diagnosed and she is well aware of the horro our Mom went through. She said one day to me that if she wasn't a Chirstian she would commit suicide.
My uncle also had a severe case of Alzheimer's, I'm so afraid I'll end up with it.
I shudder at the thought of my kids having to deal with it.
Also we don't really know what actually goes on in there minds, do know however, it the earlier stages can present a lot of fear and of course confusion.
I recently worked with a woman suffering from Alzheimer's and her mind was stuck with the loss of her son. She repeatedly would cry and grieve over her loss, I would try to redirect her but she'd soon begin talking about him, returning to her grief.
I've read there is a correlation between the taking of benzo's, you know drugs like Klonotin, can't spell it. We'll see, I just hope we find a way to cure this scourge.
Edit: damn rereading the above made mistakes with my spelling and grammer, oh well.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 26, 2016 - 09:22am PT
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Me Mum is taking a drug, the name of which escapes me (LOL!), which helps about 25% of
patients. Hard to say if it is helping her but it has minimal side effects so it is worth taking.
I looked it up - donepizel. It does have side effects but she has not had any.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Sep 19, 2017 - 12:15pm PT
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A Case of Rapidly Progressive Dementia--and the Surprisingly Easy Fix
Basically a 56 year old woman patient. Intern did a home visit after hospital admissions.
Checked out her prescription drugs - approx thirty. After review this number was reduced to three plus insulin.
Very rapid improvement in just three weeks. Mental score improved from 6 (max 30) to 17,
Home Visits: Patient and Physician Outcomes
The cost of this? The base Medicare reimbursement for her multiple hospital admissions was more than $30,000. The cost of the home visits, including billing for the visit, gas to and from, and a couple of lattes for my mentor and me: $127. Patient-centered care? Priceless.
One has to be a subscriber to read the article.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Sep 19, 2017 - 12:34pm PT
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Using machine learning algorithms on MRIs researchers have obtained extremely successful results in identifying Alzheimers.
The idea was to teach the algorithm to correctly classify and discriminate between diseased and healthy brains
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In contrast, the new technique can distinguish with similar accuracy between brains that are normal and the brains of people with MCI who will go on to develop Alzheimer’s disease in about a decade – but using a simpler, cheaper and non-invasive technique. More work will be needed to distinguish between people with MCI whose brains go on to age normally, or who might develop other kinds of dementia.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2147472-ai-spots-alzheimers-brain-changes-years-before-symptoms-emerge/
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Sep 19, 2017 - 01:25pm PT
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hey there say, karen... oh my... :O all of what you shared,
is a heavy burden to have on your thoughts, these day...
my mom's neighbor is now in more see'able stages and they just
let her visit and help her feel good, the best they can...
her son is checking up on all this... her sister had it, so she
after taking a TEST that her son wanted her to take,
realized it was really happening, to her, too...
:(
also, my twin buddies, their MOM had it early, and lived a long time,
'being lost' to them... it was a hard long sad time of it...
i wish and pray the best for you and your family now,
as to all of this...
:(
*i do know that sometimes, clogged arteries give the same symtoms, but,
after getting checked, and learning what it is, that is resolved...
some folks, though, were not aware of that in the old days, before modern
tests, etc... but, they were sure, that that is what was wrong, as to the way it progressed... :(
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Sep 19, 2017 - 01:28pm PT
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hey there, say, zbrown...
as to this:
Sep 19, 2017 - 12:15pm PT
A Case of Rapidly Progressive Dementia--and the Surprisingly Easy Fix
yes, that can also, be an un-thought-of cause, as well, though,
not the other alzheimers, but-- the dementia, for sure...
good share...
also, eating only sweet breads and coffe, :O
which is what happened to my ex-husbands aunt and mom!
:(
they were in their late 80's, but,
that had mainly stopped eating, and no one could
change their ways, :(
the one aunt finally had a stroke, very sadly...
and the one son of my mother law, as i heard it,
DID try to take her in, and finally had her in a
help-home, and she lived to be about 100???
where they SOMEHOW did get her to eat better...
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