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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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May 11, 2014 - 08:45pm PT
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I was "impolite"? My post was "impolite"?
So then is the definition of Queeb POS an Impolite Poster?
Hey Rong that makes us like brothers in arms then.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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May 11, 2014 - 08:47pm PT
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Philo, To most people no. But to right wingers, your very existance is impolite. ;-P
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WBraun
climber
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May 11, 2014 - 08:48pm PT
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Knock it off PHILO!!!
Just chill out dude!
Or I'm gonna put on my Royal Robbins 5.11 tactical pants and go all militia on you.
Rolls eyes .....
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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May 11, 2014 - 08:50pm PT
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Spider thanks man. Who could ask for anything more?
Just as an honorary mention;
Jim Erackson
David Brashears
Craig Leubban.
Oh and of course...
Paul Ryan.
It's important to be accurate. lol
Sure Werner what ever you say.
Was it that I said Rong instead of Ron? My bad.
Should I start another thread to say sorry for Ronging you Ron?
Or can I just say here that Ron from one queeb SOB to another I am sorry I was impolite enough to rong you.
My point WAS that if an OP is something like "What's your favorite American Granite" and someone posts the Frankenjura that it can be pointed out that they are rong. Oopppps I meant wrong.
Sorry.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - May 11, 2014 - 08:53pm PT
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Ryan is quite a climber (so he says) but his influence took a hit when he hitched a ride on the Romney train wreck.
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Ahwahnee Bartender
Big Wall climber
Fog Town
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May 11, 2014 - 08:56pm PT
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Why that would be the El Cap Ambassador to the World = Pass the Pitons Pete!
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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May 11, 2014 - 09:10pm PT
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He's a Canadian....
Well since virtually every climber in the west unwittingly uses fish-isms, though when pressed most seem to think its a variation of Largo- speak.... I'd say
Dick Cilley!
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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May 11, 2014 - 09:28pm PT
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Chuck Wilts, inventor of the Tahquitz (YDS)decimal system.
Add him to the list.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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May 11, 2014 - 09:30pm PT
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Randisi
nice response. I was going to call you on it.
donini climbs with a large number foreign climbers and in far off places. He's a great Ambassador for America and one of the least jingoistic.
Most influential. Whoever it is if you told him/her he'd probably laugh it off.
I'd stick with Beckey. Make a list of climbs, a long list. Keep checking them off till you're too old to tie into a rope. Go back as many times as necessary. When you're too old to make the first ascent yourself, get the expedition together and let the young'uns tag the first ascent. And all without much money. Write incredible climber's guides.
Add the Lowes and Robinson and Chouinard and Robbins and Underhill and...........
Those 7 and dozens more have greatly influenced worldwide climbing aspirations, ethics, style, technique, equipment.
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steve s
Trad climber
eldo
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May 11, 2014 - 11:24pm PT
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It's a toss up for me .....Bacher, Kauk, Lynn Hill, Bill Russell , or Pete Cleveland . Honorary mention for Mike Paul .
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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May 11, 2014 - 11:26pm PT
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Lance Armstrong.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - May 12, 2014 - 12:26am PT
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No problema Randisi, we need your view from the far side.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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May 12, 2014 - 12:28am PT
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A couple more honorary mentions.
Earl Wiggins
Jimmy Dunn.
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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May 12, 2014 - 12:51am PT
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John Muir
or David Brower.
Because the most important work that we do is not our climbing.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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May 12, 2014 - 12:56am PT
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Jardine made modern cams, pretty sure that takes the cake for "influential"
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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May 12, 2014 - 12:59am PT
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^^^ Um NO.
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Avery
climber
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May 12, 2014 - 12:59am PT
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How about Charlie Porter?
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Jim Clipper
climber
from: forests to tree farms
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May 12, 2014 - 02:26am PT
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I once heard someone say that Chouinard (the company) marginalized a number of smaller gear makers with its success. Any truth?
I'd like to imagine a gaggle of pranksters, designers, engineers, misfits, climbers, etc. that loosely came and went. It all got sorted out somehow.
Others? Frost, Rowell, did Adams do any climbing?
found this ...
http://www.sfmoma.org/explore/multimedia/videos/114
edit: Some others that have influenced rescue
edit again: Arlene Blum, Goeff Tabin (and jello!)
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Jim Clipper
climber
from: forests to tree farms
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May 12, 2014 - 12:52pm PT
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bump. I don't want to sound like a fan boy, but how about a separate photo only, or photo intensive Jello thread. Selfies, cover shots, lines, unclimbed lines, gear ogling, etc. Sorry, I don't have time to cut and paste. Might brighten up the place a little.
Ha! got post '76
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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May 12, 2014 - 02:12pm PT
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As Jerry Anderson said, Doug Robinson's article in the 1972 Chouinard catalog influenced the future course of rock climbing more than any other single article of which I'm aware, although I need to credit Robbins and John Stannard in addition to Doug for influencing the change from pitons to chocks.
I could argue that Underhill was a game-changer in the Sierra, with the introduction of proper rope management, but that was only in the Sierra. The clean climbing movement was continent-wide.
As for who was most influential, I can only answer for myself, and even there I have to equivocate. Pratt was my hero and I tried to emulate his style, but Robbins' climbs in Yosemite were unparalleled. Still, I have to say Roper probably influenced me more than anyone else. His introduction to the 1964 (Red) Climber's Guide to Yosemite Valley -- with its comments on bolts, siege climbing, and a general climbing philosophy guide me to this day. I particularly live by the credo -- perhaps given rather subtly for someone not known for subtlety -- that one should climb a route properly. If I cannot do it in proper style, I'm better off forfeiting the experience than "cheating."
John
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