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mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
May 5, 2017 - 12:30pm PT
I was in Monterey attending classes at MPC.

You're gonna love this one...[Click to View YouTube Video]It seems the students were responsible for their own deaths and the National Guard only gave them a swat on the behind.
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
May 5, 2017 - 01:04pm PT
I was still in binary liquid form at that time.

The state has simply become more efficient at killing and better at quelling the public with bread and circus.

How many fronts is the state actively killing people on today vs. in 1970?



Tom Patterson

Trad climber
Seattle
May 5, 2017 - 02:14pm PT
It's hard to believe this happened 47 years ago. That's almost 50 years ago, and yet it is such a vivid memory for me. Some of the incredible comments made in the video that mouse from merced posted are a "good" reminder that stupidity and polarization have been around longer than Trump.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
May 5, 2017 - 03:27pm PT
Junior in Bellevue HS.... the black armband was a very popular piece of apparel.

BHS was as divided as the country was... you had good old boys from the local town and Air-force brats... The brats were the ones offered up to fill the quota from the county. I was 1A and a perfect candidate to be drafted.

two days after KS ... we had our own big protest-fight at the "smokers hill" behind the parking lot. It was a nasty gang fight, bloody noses, chipped teeth etc. The "Long Hairs" surprisingly, won with the Jocks scurrying off to tell the principle.

My Dad and Uncle, both lifers, had convinced me to "STAY THE F..k out of this war".... they both knew it was complete bull sh#t by 1970 and I am really happy I won the lotto two years in a row.

Ahhhh... the Good Old Days.

If you lived through those days, like many here have, all I can say is this... we survived.

And thank you to those who did serve, we all had to make some very big decisions, life changing decisions.

peace to all
dee ee

Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
May 5, 2017 - 05:10pm PT
I was in my 2nd and last year at Heinz Kaiser Junior High in Costa Mesa and a climber at heart, and I was completely aware of the happenings that day.

At the time I had a paper route delivering the Daily Pilot and they ran a feature on the front page every day keeping a running tally of allied and enemy casualties.

I couldn't wrap my brain around the disparity in numbers. We had, at the time 40,000-50,000 and they had several hundred thousand.

What did it all mean?
zBrown

Ice climber
May 5, 2017 - 07:04pm PT
I was in Orange County, CA


I do not know how many, but some vets refuse to acknowledge this stuff happening.

Complex issue.

McNamara himself told some that it was a righteous and necessary war.

He changed his tune later.


"We were wrong, terribly wrong. We owe it to future generations to explain why." — McNamara, writing in his 1995 memoir, In Retrospect, on the management of the Vietnam War

Yet his hair was [almost] perfect.


jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
May 5, 2017 - 07:18pm PT
Night after night the Huntley-Brinkley Report would give a count of Americans killed or wounded. What a grisly catastrophe. I was out of the service by 1962, but the USAF tried to lure me back to the carnage, to the extent I had to resign my commission.
Flip Flop

climber
Earth Planet, Universe
May 5, 2017 - 09:30pm PT
Wow. Thanks for that JGill
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