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BuddhaStalin
climber
Truckee, CA
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A prime example of not knowing when to stop modifying your car.
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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riced out merc
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Stewart Johnson
climber
lake forest
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Ultimate climbers vehicle
This baby has 290000 miles
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Kung Phu Panda
climber
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For what its worth.
I test drove the 2014 forester in January, and the back seats don't fully recline to flat. Its only a big deal if you plan on sleeping in the back. The new outbacks recline flat and 2 people can sleep in the back fairly easily.
phc
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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May 10, 2014 - 05:06pm PT
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OK- so I'm in negotiations for a 2015 Forester limited. Any more thoughts from the peanut gallery before I close?
edit: I'm struggling with difference in sleep ability versus approach angle between the Forester and Outback.
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BuddhaStalin
climber
Truckee, CA
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May 10, 2014 - 05:39pm PT
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I would trade the ability to sleep in it for the ability to get around off road without messing up the bumper and such. Impreza chassis vs legacy chassis. Id go forester all the way and buy a tent instead.
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Topic Author's Reply - May 10, 2014 - 06:15pm PT
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I'm now leaning toward the allroad (pissed that Audi doesn't offer a manual though), but I'd take the Forester over the Outback. It's noticeably more competent on technical terrain. But either Subaru will get you up Buttermilk Road for sure
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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May 10, 2014 - 06:28pm PT
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Cheers folks!
Forester it is. I have too many tents.
edit: 90% of my driving is done on SoCal freeways/roads. I prefer a manual tranny for off road, but can't stand the constant shifting in SoCal traffic.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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May 10, 2014 - 09:15pm PT
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constant shifting in SoCal traffic
Good choice, automatic is better.
I'd never buy a new Forester. Not me. I've got 205,000 miles on my old Forester, no point in buying a new Forester when I still have another 95,000 miles remaining on this one.
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TrundleBum
Trad climber
Las Vegas
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May 10, 2014 - 10:03pm PT
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After beating the snot out of two Outbacks...
I wish someone would have made me write on a chalk board a thousands times after school:
"ALL WHEEL DRIVE DOES NOT MEAN OFF ROAD!"
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Dropline
Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
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May 10, 2014 - 11:11pm PT
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Jeep Jeep. :-)
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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May 10, 2014 - 11:18pm PT
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After owning many manual transmissions and then going automatic I would never go back. Today's automatic 4WD on my 4 Runner is the shizzle. All original 342,000 now and running like new. Today I returned from a Eastern Sierra and Saline Valley trip once again.
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PSP also PP
Trad climber
Berkeley
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May 11, 2014 - 12:12am PT
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Did they solve the head gasket problem on the foresters?
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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May 11, 2014 - 02:40am PT
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My last subie was a '72 (I think) and it sucked on uphills.
That was FORTY TWO YEARS AGO!
How about we identify the quality of people's climbing skills based upon 42 years ago?????
Sheesh!
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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May 11, 2014 - 02:47am PT
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Ha Ha! Seems like yesterday.
edit: I remember hoisting the engine out using a tree in my brothers front yard. Rebuilt it and was driving it 9 hours later. Of course, there were a few left over fasteners...
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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May 11, 2014 - 06:43am PT
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Did they solve the head gasket problem on the foresters?
I've replaced mine twice, what do you think?
2003 Forester
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BuddhaStalin
climber
Truckee, CA
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May 11, 2014 - 11:31am PT
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Conversely, Ive had seven subarus over the years, never had a head gasket issue with a single one. Including the most common offender, the DOHC EJ25 engine from 1997-1999. Go figure, your results may vary. Only one failure that resulted in a tow, but thankfully not engine failure, from a timing belt idler pulley that a bolt cracked on and spit the timing belt. Luckily in the EJ18, it can sustain this without bent valves. Otherwise, nary a failing part.
And btw, yes, its a completely different engine these days.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 11, 2014 - 01:00pm PT
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My buddy is sure enjoying his new 305HP STI hatchback! Lots of room for skis
and books on how to fight yer tickets.
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BuddhaStalin
climber
Truckee, CA
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May 11, 2014 - 02:24pm PT
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Nice. 2015? The new chassis and body but still has the tried and true EJ257 from previous years, no turboed 2.5l of the DI engine yet. Love the new WRX and STI, wish I could justify one.
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BuddhaStalin
climber
Truckee, CA
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May 11, 2014 - 02:27pm PT
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Just cleaned the MAF sensor and the K&N filter, now with way less oil, along with replacing the upstream O2 sensor. Oh my god, I got all my power back even with 186k miles. Feels new and pulls strong like day 1. Waiting on the downstream 02 sensor now to complete. Didnt realize they wear down, not just break or stop working. huge difference, worth every penny and Im sure ill save gas as soon as i get bored with the recovered power.
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