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ms55401
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minneapolis, mn
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Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 24, 2014 - 09:15pm PT
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anyone drive one of these lately? The Forester has been favorably-reviewed by pretty much every rag (e.g. Consumer Reports, Motor Trend), but the Outback just came out with a an overhaul.
I was leaning toward an Outback until I read that the 2015 model will not have a manual transmission option. so maybe I'll get a Forester (w/manual)
or an Audi allroad.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Apr 24, 2014 - 09:28pm PT
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I'm looking at them as well. Initially I was looking at the Forester, but it is not available with a 6 cylinder (I hate under powered vehicles). Now I'm looking at an Outback (2014). I'm done with manual trannys.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Apr 24, 2014 - 09:33pm PT
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Hey multi million $$ Craggy; which Outback model do you have?
edit: just funning with you.
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Ezra Ellis
Trad climber
North wet, and Da souf
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Apr 24, 2014 - 09:35pm PT
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I have the 2014 forester and love it, way better then the 2014 outback, 2015 may be different though!
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Apr 24, 2014 - 09:37pm PT
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So do the Foresters have enough get up and go to get up the Sherwin grade without getting run over?
So Subie has a decently powered 4 cyl.?
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Apr 24, 2014 - 09:52pm PT
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Interesting. You don't find the 2.5 under powered? My last subie was a '72 (I think) and it sucked on uphills.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Apr 24, 2014 - 09:59pm PT
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Ezra- Why do you think the Forester is better than the Outback?
How do you like Jim's whammer?
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Apr 24, 2014 - 10:05pm PT
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I loved my Outback...would've kept that thing forever, except I needed the hauling capacity of a truck.
Shame that they will be doing away with manual transmissions, though...I greatly prefer that kind of vehicle control.
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ec
climber
ca
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Apr 24, 2014 - 10:09pm PT
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Subaru = POS
In My Experienced Opinion
Please reference other threads.
 ec
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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Apr 24, 2014 - 10:18pm PT
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The 2.5 has plenty of power, since these are not sports cars.
The Forester has better approach and departure angles.
The manual transmission sucks for going slow uphill over rocks - you have to slip the clutch until it smokes.
the 70s-80s subarus were slow, but at least had a Hi-lo transfer case, which you can't get in USA anymore. The automatic, now CVT, is better unless you want a WRX type car.
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Betelnut
Mountain climber
So. California
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Apr 24, 2014 - 10:23pm PT
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Well, the Forester is more of an SUV. I'll leave out the stuff about it being the #1 favorite of lesbians. Oops. Hey, nothing wrong with that!
The '15 Outback adds slightly better mileage, refined styling, better features (standard back-up camera, quieter ride) and more options (blind spot warning, etc.).
Great snow car.
PS: ignore ec
PSS: Audi All Road is nice but forget carrying passengers in the back seats unless they are little people.
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Anastasia
climber
Home
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Apr 24, 2014 - 10:27pm PT
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We own a new Audi Allroad. I personally think the Forester has way more room and is more a climber car than the Audi.
Why? Both Subarus are already set up for dirt with the proper rubber liners, they have really cool electrical outlets everywhere which are useful, their cargo holds are larger, and their repair costs are cheaper.
I chose the Audi because... Well, I simply am a sucker for how it drives. When I test drove the Forester and Outback... I found their reflexes "boring." The Audi is so much fun... It's almost too fun. Plus, I got a really good deal on the Audi that made it irresistible. Now would I trade my Audi for a Subaru... Actually No. Yet... If cost became and issue, I would give it up because simply... A car shouldn't cost more than you can afford and the Audi can go bad like that.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Apr 24, 2014 - 10:34pm PT
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The Audi is so much fun... It's almost too fun.
Go Speed Racer Go!
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DesertRatExpeditions
Trad climber
Flagstaff, Arizona
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Apr 24, 2014 - 11:10pm PT
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I've owned two Outbacks now, and I love them. They seem to be consistently good for about 300k miles and go most anywhere I want to, at least in the forest environs ( I have my truck for the deserts). Fuel mileage is also about the best I can find in the AWD(not just street) non-hybrid market.
I was really thinking about getting the 2015 sometime next year, because I heard they were releasing the outback with the 2.0 Turbo(currently in the Forester) to replace the 6-cylinder. Of course they didn't do this, so I might have to wait a bit longer. I do have to say the '15 Outback still looks pretty sweet.
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Apr 24, 2014 - 11:32pm PT
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If you want more power, get the turbo Forester XT. Mine did 90 up hill to Park City no problem. Handled well, OK mileage.
An Audi All-Road would be very nice, but I've heard bad things about reliability and repair costs.
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ec
climber
ca
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Apr 24, 2014 - 11:53pm PT
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The only good thing is that Audi makes the 4x for Subaru
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bhilden
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
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Apr 25, 2014 - 12:49am PT
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Mazda 3 wagon. 38mpg highway and it's $20k out the door.
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surfstar
climber
Santa Barbara, CA
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Apr 25, 2014 - 12:59am PT
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^ a Forester is way more vehicle for same price as Crosstrek basically (which is just a lifted Impreza).
Even as a manual shift fan, the new CVTs are getting better mpg, and hopefully are just as reliable. I always choose manuals for these two reasons, which are finally being surpassed.
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