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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Apr 25, 2019 - 10:44am PT
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So there have been how many crashes and deaths either due to the autopilot malfunctioning or techno-junkies blindly entrusting their lives to it? Have heard of at least two that suddenly veered across three lanes. Haven’t heard of one with Volvo’s, but then Volvo practically invented auto safety. I have many hundreds of miles using mine and my only complaint is that it is sometimes too cautious, not a bad thing IMHO.
As I mentioned before, the problem is technical. Self driving cars could have an accident death rate that is one-tenth of human drivers, say ~4000 deaths/year instead of ~40,000 deaths/year, and the companies would be bankrupted by lawsuits.
If it is done by a computer, humans expect perfection. Flying is way safer than driving and look how society freaks out about plane crashes. I think self driving cars are going to have the same hurdles.
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Banks
Trad climber
Santa Monica, CA
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Apr 25, 2019 - 01:03pm PT
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Musk wants people to believe that we are on the verge of living like the Jetsons, while in reality we are far far away.
As for the Q1 numbers, Musk is either incompetent, a delusional liar, or both. Back in January, he said he expected a small loss or even a small profit in Q1 with a bit of luck. To have revenue and income crater so badly shows you either have no idea what is going on or you are flat out lying.
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seano
Mountain climber
none
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Apr 25, 2019 - 01:48pm PT
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Flying is way safer than driving and look how society freaks out about plane crashes. I think self driving cars are going to have the same hurdles. Pretty much. Google/Uber/Tesla are just as freaked out about liability as Boeing/Airbus and the airlines. If you crash your car, it's your fault. If your car crashes itself, it's their fault.
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WBraun
climber
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Apr 25, 2019 - 04:15pm PT
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If your car crashes itself, it's their fault.
Nah ...
They'll just pass the buck down to blame the guy who wrote the code.
Then they'll just break his fingers so he can't write any more code ..... :-)
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 25, 2019 - 04:40pm PT
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As an aviation ‘fanboi’ with some street cred (if I do say so) a few games are played with aviation safety statistics. They like to tout deaths per X (trillion/billion/million) revenue miles. When seen through that prism the numbers are impressive. When looked at as X/million departures the picture isn’t so rosy. Once the heap gets off the ground and established in cruise flying is very safe, it’s those pesky takeoffs and landings that ruin the party. That is the problem with driving, too, huh? If everybody would stay in their lane and behave at intersections, not to mention obey a few other inconvenient laws, driving could be as safe as flying! I just don’t see how some pencil necked geek can write code to thwart homicidal retards.
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Ezra Ellis
Trad climber
North wet, and Da souf
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Apr 27, 2019 - 03:05am PT
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Tesla closed at 235 yesterday,
How low will it go?
Where are all the tesla fan boys?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 27, 2019 - 06:48am PT
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Amazingly they’re out there or at least enough to lessen the day’s losses by a percent in the last hour of trading. Who in their right mind is still buying TSLA?
They gotta be drinking Rev Jim Jones grade kool-aid!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 27, 2019 - 10:02am PT
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Those are the weenie shorts who don’t have the cojones to stay to the bitter end! 😉
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Apr 29, 2019 - 08:09pm PT
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I bailed at $390 ($104 purchase share price)
Back in as soon as it hits $200
If a civilian like me can literally crush on profit, there has to something Wong...
Bunch of long haul truckers here, hope there is still a market to work in 20 yrs lol
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Banks
Trad climber
Santa Monica, CA
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May 20, 2019 - 11:16am PT
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What happens first? The Taco shuts down or Tesla goes belly up?
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Q- Ball
Mountain climber
but to scared to climb them anymore
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May 20, 2019 - 02:08pm PT
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I cut a tree down. Or moved it off the road. Thousands in profit. The log is still sitting below the bank.
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jeff constine
Trad climber
Ao Namao
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May 22, 2019 - 07:31pm PT
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Stoner
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MikeL
Social climber
Southern Arizona
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May 22, 2019 - 08:09pm PT
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0-60 ,1.9 seconds.
One attribute among many. The certainty of a company that's going to be around for the long haul would be another (as well as the parts and service and resale-ability that go with it).
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 22, 2019 - 08:19pm PT
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TSLA off another 6% today after they cut car prices. Getting brutal.
A pity the fan bois have bailed.
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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May 22, 2019 - 10:29pm PT
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I’m going balls deep, keeping my word above.
>$200 booya
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 22, 2019 - 10:31pm PT
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booya, climbers don’t count, most are sado-masochists.
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john hansen
climber
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May 22, 2019 - 10:51pm PT
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Got in at 196 in 2014 got out at 271 a couple years ago. 38 % in four years.
It is now below 196 again.
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MikeL
Social climber
Southern Arizona
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May 23, 2019 - 06:31am PT
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Reilly,
You've seen the recent whistleblowing claims of inspectors who claim the FAA pressures them to ignore critical plane problems? (I saw it on CBS News.)
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 23, 2019 - 08:53am PT
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Mike, WOT to follow...
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