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Trad is Rad
Trad climber
San Luis Obispo California
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 17, 2013 - 11:02pm PT
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not like that, im not going to drop out, rather test out.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 17, 2013 - 11:08pm PT
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Good to hear. A reasonable (or better) life can be had without college, but a HS diploma is a requirement.
Most of these guys upthread have more direct experience with that industry, but my guess is that getting that kind of work as an 18 y/o is going to be tough. It will require persistence & demonstrated responsibility to get there. Might have to do some grunt work before you start moving up. Best of luck, in any case.
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john hansen
climber
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Dec 17, 2013 - 11:12pm PT
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Hooblie
That is a great photo,, I like the shadow on the pole.
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skamoto
Mountain climber
coalinga ca
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Dec 18, 2013 - 12:17am PT
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Ben thats a good idea. Ive heard horror stories about gin poles.
RAD stay in high school. Those are memories you dont wana lose out on especially senior year. It would be really hard getting a job like this right out of school. Not impossible though they just like to see that you have had a job before and were able to get threw any obstacles you had at that job. There will be lots of obstacles to over come on towers. Dont be in a rush. Rushing gets you killed on towers. Lots of travelling too. Dont expect to stay in one place to long. Makes it hard to keep climbing rocks.
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skamoto
Mountain climber
coalinga ca
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Dec 18, 2013 - 12:23am PT
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Oh a ged is acceptable. But they will hire someone with diploma over you if given a choice. Diploma shows you were able to stick it out. Ged just looks like you got in trouble in school and couldn't handle it.. just saying. They dont look into it they just assume.
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Wormly81
Trad climber
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Dec 18, 2013 - 11:14am PT
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Its hard to verbalize why education is so important but I'm going to give it a try because its totally worth my time if it has a 1% chance of keeping you in school longer.
No matter what job you take, you will end up being limited by your lack of education. When I say education I am not referring to your knowledge of any specific subject but instead I mean your familiarity with the process of spending time doing something you would rather not do for unknown and unquantifiable future benefits. Every person I know who has done something genuinely useful with their life has one trait in common and that is that they work hard at everything, not just the things they currently value. School is designed to teach this. It is not difficult and just a matter of commitment and effort. The benefits are not easily quantifiable or even tangible for that matter. But you will work hard to do well and afterwards you will recognize the benefits of what you have accomplished.
If you approach your career with a "I only work hard on things I give value to" attitude you are going to create your own headwind which will hold you back. Its that simple. And the best way to create a habit of working hard all the time for reasons you are not even sure of is school.
Best of luck!
Jeff
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skamoto
Mountain climber
coalinga ca
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Dec 18, 2013 - 03:01pm PT
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Jeff totally said it the best. Hands down.
Go get em jeff. I totally agree
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Ben909
Trad climber
toronto
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Dec 18, 2013 - 04:00pm PT
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Great shot Hooblie! And wise words Jeff.
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BrentA
Gym climber
Roca Rojo
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Dec 18, 2013 - 04:11pm PT
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Hey Trad is Rad,
EDIT- JEFF IS WISE!!!!
My name is Brent.
I have lived the life you are facing...I'm 38 now.
From 18-30 every breathe I took was to climb. I don't know how comprehensive the illness is within yourself?
If every breathe you take is to climb, any of these jobs will do.
To use it as a vehicle to "make a lot of money, go spend it climbing" is dead nuts what it is for.
At 18, I would think 25,000 dollars sounds like enough to ramble around on for a year????
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This will all work very well, regardless tower/sprat/irata UNTIL you fall in love. Hopefully you've got a decade of wildness before that hits, but you never know.
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My personal path went grad HS, undergrad til I was 27, cell tower erection, radome installation, IRATA (9yrs level 3), and now entertainment rigging.
I've never used my degree after college, stretched that period of time out for x2 what it should have taken, but education is PARAMOUNT in this world. Im glad for that time.
That coming from a reformed van dweller. I used to live in mobile crime lab I got from an auction.
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Go hard brother. At your age nothing is permanent. Keep doors open, and bridges from burning, go in peace....
AND RUN IT OUT!!!!!
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Trad is Rad
Trad climber
San Luis Obispo California
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2013 - 12:05am PT
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School blows so hard though.....
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skamoto
Mountain climber
coalinga ca
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Dec 20, 2013 - 04:48pm PT
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Lol school is CAKE compared to real life. Whatever choice you make youll figure that out soon enough. Ill trade you one year of my work life for your last year of high school?
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Mark Sensenbach
climber
CA
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Dec 20, 2013 - 07:52pm PT
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Trad is Rad i would hang in there. High school is pretty sucktor but it will go fast. Try and see the good in it. There are some cool people and they are stuck there too. Look forward to summer.
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speelyei
Trad climber
Mohave County Arizona
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Dec 20, 2013 - 11:43pm PT
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Trad is rad:
Another occupation to consider is climbing arborist/tree trimmer.
Check out treebuzz.com or the like for trade related forums
On the Oregon Coast, USFS habitat project.
One of my past students, Newport Bayfront, OR
Cottonwood removal, PGE property, Mt Hood, OR
Private wages $12-30, add $10 an hour for Union Powerline work.
I would strongly encourage you to finish high school in a conventional manner, unless there is a safety issue. Also, for any job with an element of risk, no company will touch you until you're 18.
Ordinarily, I'd bore you with personal anecdotes, but I'm working on that.
I worked as a vocational instructor for the Job Corps for 8 years, so it's something I know a bit about.
Also, there is some benefit to having a clear break between your work and your recreation.
-Craig
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Trad is Rad
Trad climber
San Luis Obispo California
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 16, 2014 - 12:00am PT
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So those were all great replies, but..... I need a little more guidance than an array of options. I want to know what companies I should be calling and how I would get an apprenticeship either doing cell tower work or NDT testing, for when I turn 18... I want to get to work as soon as possible.
Refrain from the the "once you start working you wont stop" comments.
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Ben909
Trad climber
toronto
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Feb 16, 2014 - 04:37am PT
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Check out ASNT.org for NDT info and courses. Acuren is a pretty big NDT company with work all over. I'd suggest training for rope access at Ropeworks in Reno (or Houston or AK).
My experience as a level 1 with no trade skills was at times very frustrating. It is unlikely that a job/apprenticeship is just going to fall in your lap so plan accordingly and never stop sending out resumes or cold calling/emailing people.
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barry ohm
Trad climber
escondido, ca
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Feb 16, 2014 - 09:29am PT
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Someone mentioned Ironworkers, great trade, they work hard have fun, great Brotherhood and earn good Money.If you looking for a alternate to traditional college any of the building trade union apprenticeships are a great route, you attend school while working in the Industry , there are no student loans, you get great health insurance and retirement.
With that said a High school Diploma and two years of Algebra, geometry ,trigonometry some basic computer skills.Completing High school shows? that you will complete the Apprenticeship Good Luck
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Jaysen
Trad climber
NY
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Feb 16, 2014 - 10:54am PT
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hunter..... you are afraid of heights..
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Psilocyborg
climber
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Feb 17, 2014 - 10:50am PT
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Cozgrove gave you some damn good advice.
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crazyfingers
climber
CA
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Feb 17, 2014 - 11:31am PT
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One can easily earn a six figure income in the rope access industry, as long as the additional certifications are high-end ones that require a brain in the head. Oil/gas companies have the deepest pockets and you can do very well with advanced NDT certs on or off ropes. Remember that the rope skills are just a means of accessing the actual work.
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