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Willoughby
Social climber
Truckee, CA
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Dingus, always with the parasols...
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Lanthade
climber
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Alpinism is when you drink more while preparing than you do while recovering.
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crunch
Social climber
CO
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Well, obviously, it means climbing in an alpine environment.
With the constraints and objective hazards of that environment.
North Face of the Eiger perhaps is the epitome of this.
Lessee, umm, huge faces, loose rock, snow, bad weather, falling rocks, cold, wet....mostly an unpredictable mix of all of these, requiring the "alpinist" to be very versatile and hardy, able to transition effortlessly from hard free to aid to thin slab to post-holing--and come out smiling.
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Edge
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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One foot on rock, one foot on snow, and one foot in the grave.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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I always thought of it as any kind of technical terrain up in the ice and snow country.
A mountain peak, with roped climbing requiring tools=Alpinism
Is hiking an easy snow covered peak alpinism also, or is that just peak bagging?
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clinker
Trad climber
California
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Ice-screwed.
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10b4me
Ice climber
Bishop/Flagstaff
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Alpinism=a love of suffering. A love so strong, survivors always return.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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As a "sworn-off" alpinista------ has been: I offer up this 1971 Ascent Magazine cover shot by Chouinard.
When I was "into" alpinism, I always thought this photo was "so----cool."
When I finally encountered a similar situation where I had spindrift not only coming over me, but piling up and forcing me out from an ice-bulge, during a early 1980's January climb of the North Face of Mt. Colchuck in the Cascades, I actually had the momemtary thought that I had reached that point of alpinism coolness.
I got over it.
The Chouinard photo was a Scottish waterfall climbing shot of Chouinard's buddy Doug Tomkins, and a winter ascent of the North Face of Colchuck is "a walk in the park" as compared to current alpine achievements.
That "Alpinista schist" is dangerous!
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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It's more like exploring than actually climbing. All that heavy gear and layers, they can't climb hard with that sh#t on. So it's like a Halloween party, where guys go to dress up in scary costumes and pretend to be something.
If you can't do it in a spaghetti strap top and yoga pants it ain't climbing.
good luck getting her into your single wall tent dude
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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"The alpinist knows he must eventually find the truth if he has the courage to continue."
Albert Einstein.
Websters:
mountain climbing in the Alps or other high mountains
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WBraun
climber
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Alpinism
Where no sane man ever goes ......
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 10, 2013 - 12:01am PT
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Jim, you turning into another trouble maker?
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scooter
climber
fist clamp
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Dec 10, 2013 - 12:02am PT
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Bottom to top with what you can carry on your back.
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skywalker
climber
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Dec 10, 2013 - 12:09am PT
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I read about the Rumdoodle. I think its like that.
S....
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Dec 10, 2013 - 12:42am PT
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Remote
that would've prevented alpinism in the alps. remote from paris or london or berlin. but not from geneva and certainly not from a jillion other small-medium sized places in central europe.
but it's on point because it helps to highlight the difference between europe and north america when it comes to mountain climbing. the alps were smack dab in the center of europe-- brueghel and goethe had to cross them just to get to italy. folks had been crossing even dicier high passes since at least the bronze age.
whereas the US doesn't have a single cultural capitol anywhere near a mountain range. the villages closest to major peaks were native villages and either depopulated by disease and war or by post-treaty events before "mountaineering" became a recognizable activity.
in the us, alpinism has come to refer to stuff that's comparatively hard to get to.
and the postwar distinction between aline style and expedition style doesn't have the edge it had when that us team was up on latok.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Dec 10, 2013 - 12:53am PT
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alpinism is a mindset about style of ascending.
mountaineering is the mechanics of alpinism.
Alpinist is the name of a magazine about alpinism.
BAM!
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crøtch
climber
Whale's Vagina
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Dec 10, 2013 - 01:05am PT
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Climbing cold rock with an axe strapped to my back and clouds building; comfort and security getting farther away by the moment.
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MisterE
climber
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Dec 10, 2013 - 01:24am PT
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Dammit! Wish I lurked so I could respond.
Nobody else to blame here - I got nothin'.
Carry on.
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Lasti
Trad climber
Budapest
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Dec 10, 2013 - 01:39am PT
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One am breakfast.
Oatmeal and salami again?
Just get out of your sleeping bag already.
Singles of everything will be fine, let's go light.
Whoah, that's a big face.
Sure looks nice with a bit of snow.
Feeling a bit queazy, intimidated by the face lingering above.
Talus and scree climbing for hours.
Postholing for hours.
Still the face lingers.
Take a dump. Maybe two. Damn stress. Pass TP to partner, five feet away. He used it all. Go for the snow.
Is it getting lighter? We're late... No, no, conditions are good. Yeah but... No, nothing.
Rock paper scissors. So happy to belay that crumbling wet corner of a start.
Damn it's gonna be cold.
It'll be OK in boots, it's too cold.
Should have brought double #3s.
Can barely remove shoulder slings because of jacket.
Can't remove jacket because of slings.
Should have put rock shoes on.
Pro? Why, how far out am I? 40 feet? OK, another 20 and there's some pro...
Rock's rotten, I'll just go for it.
It's too damn hot.
Don't fall, the belay is a bit sketch.
Hurry up, it's cold.
Look at the clouds. Very bleak.
Is that thunder?
Rockfall.
Whadya think?
UP.
OK.
A bit of sunshine on the back of your neck. An ebb in the hounding wind. A glimpse of the ridge through the clouds. A good belay stance. A great bivy ledge. Better remember that. But not for today! The rest of the route is 5.easy. Conditions are better on the top half. Partner knows everything from a glance. Smiles. Sitting on the summit. Showing off booty and scars. Ridgelines everywhere. New possibilities. An easy descent. Laying in the sun at basecamp.
Should have brought more whisky.
Repeat.
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