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PSP also PP
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Oct 21, 2013 - 03:50pm PT
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I would like to see him go on Judge Judy, she would tell it like it is. WTF were you thinking? Were you drunk? High?
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tornado
climber
lawrence kansas
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Oct 21, 2013 - 04:01pm PT
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it's crossed the line from environmental crime to threatening capitalist interests-a bunch of those sponsors Advertise on ST.
Good point. What this basically boils down to for the culprits and sponsors is money. There are WAY too many pro climbers and gear companies these days. I think it is important for the climbing industry to realize that there is a significant portion of their customer base who do not care about 5.14 A routes, going to see the latest Reel Rock Tour films, or the focus on harder faster and stronger.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Oct 21, 2013 - 04:02pm PT
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Strange, I've received 4 replies to my letters. All seemed sincere and thoughtful.
And get it through your thick skulls... the original post was deleted by the author for reasons of his own. It has nothing to do with ST and advertising.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Oct 21, 2013 - 04:05pm PT
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Ron, you can't make me
Wade, I'm guessing you are a referring to Joe himself? Do you blame him? There are those who simply will not accept any apology as adequate. No matter what he types it will get plastered all over here and ripped apart by the cyber lynch mob who are foaming at the mouth behind their keyboards.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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Oct 21, 2013 - 04:20pm PT
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An apology is not enough. They must do things to mitigate what they have done.
If apologies are enough then let everyone in prison that will apologies out.
If his apology was out front on his FB & he simply said he screwed up badly & that he would do whatever it take to make up for this it would have been a good start.
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TheTye
Trad climber
Sacramento CA
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Oct 21, 2013 - 04:30pm PT
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Squishy-
If you are rotting away in a self-imposed prison you aren't able to spray angst on the interwebs... You can't afford internet access when you forfit your career out of an irrational sense of social justice for a mistake... not a deliberate act of malice.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Oct 21, 2013 - 04:41pm PT
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malice and premeditation have been soundly proven by initial denial.
Wow, that might be the stupidest thing you have ever typed... but I doubt it.
I'm gauging that as an indicator of their interest level. or as an indicator that I'm an irrelevant geezer
You could also gauge that as an indicator of their workload or their desire to provide a more thoughtful response with reasonable actions. But whatever works for you.
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Snowmassguy
Trad climber
Calirado
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Oct 21, 2013 - 04:48pm PT
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One ONE option here........
Guantanamo Bay Detention Camp
....maybe a little water boarding to determine level of sincerity.
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Dapper Dan
Trad climber
Menlo Park
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Oct 21, 2013 - 05:24pm PT
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Anyone else tired of hearing the word 'stoke' or 'psyche' ?
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Oct 21, 2013 - 05:25pm PT
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Who is johnnie and what does he have to do with any of this?
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Oct 21, 2013 - 05:31pm PT
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Sorry, I don't get sarcasm.
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Cragar
Trad climber
MSLA - MT
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Oct 21, 2013 - 05:32pm PT
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Anyone else tired of hearing the word 'stoke' or 'psyche' ?
But, but Farcebook is stoking me whilst I stoke them!
The initial denial kinda sets this casserole up with a Velveeta base as well as the topping.
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Fluoride
Trad climber
West Los Angeles, CA/Joshua Tree
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Oct 21, 2013 - 05:58pm PT
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Thanks for the link Banks.
"I thank you all for reaching out to us. Joe's email to us regarding this incident reached us first, and for that I am grateful as he owned up to his mistake and notified us before we read it on the blogs."
Did the Sterling president really not know this was going on since last Wednesday when it first blew up on social media? People on this site were e-mailing Sterling as of Thursday and he was still denying it on Thursday yet they claim they heard it from him first over the weekend. Yeah...
Guess they're protecting Joe. They've invested enough time and energy with him I wouldn't expect otherwise.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Oct 21, 2013 - 06:03pm PT
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Would love to see someone, anyone (momentairily overcome with an honesty impulse) say, "i'm so sorry i was caught."
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Oct 21, 2013 - 06:07pm PT
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Would love to see someone, anyone (momentarily overcome with an honesty impulse) say, "i'm so sorry i was caught."
That's got to be one of the best comments on the forum ever, Jim!
John
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cintune
climber
The Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
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Oct 21, 2013 - 06:15pm PT
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Whatever the outcome, the worst of it still leaves the impression of irresponsibility out there in the general public.
Climbers are outlaws enough already in a lot of people's minds.
These shenanigans are just another incident suggesting that maybe we can't be trusted unless carefully supervised.
Wonder what the Access Fund thinks.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Oct 21, 2013 - 06:16pm PT
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I'm sorry I've never been caught doing anything wrong. It just comes with being a jedi savant.
I don't see why so many people feel the need to go outside to climb anyway. Gym climbing is way more fun and it is way easier to put up routes.
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PSP also PP
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Oct 21, 2013 - 06:34pm PT
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EMS is letting it slide also. They basically told me he is good guy and they have a 7.5 yr relationship.
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