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Stewart Johnson

lake forest
Sep 9, 2013 - 08:45pm PT

Bomb List

Guatemala 1954

Indonesia 1958

Cuba 1959-1961

Guatemala 1960

Congo 1964

Laos 1964-73

Vietnam 1961-73

Cambodia 1969-70

Guatemala 1967-69

Grenada 1983

Lebanon 1983, 1984 (both Lebanese and Syrian targets)

Libya 1986

El Salvador 1980s

Nicaragua 1980s

Iran 1987

Panama 1989

Iraq 1991 (Persian Gulf War)

Kuwait 1991

Somalia 1993

Bosnia 1994, 1995

Sudan 1998

Afghanistan 1998

Yugoslavia 1999

Yemen 2002

Iraq 1991-2003 (US/UK on regular no-fly-zone basis)

Iraq 2003-2011 (Second Gulf War)

Afghanistan 2001 to present

Pakistan 2007 to present

Somalia 2007-8, 2011 to present

Yemen 2009, 2011 to present

Libya 2011

Syria 2013?

Keeping our defense industry humming.

How has any of these actions "protected" the civilian population?

Sep 9, 2013 - 08:48pm PT
LOL ....

He just doesn't like me bullying the wingnut dipshits.

Well you got that right. :-)

Hahaha they took his football away

C'mon .... ya know it's probably true .... :-)
Jolly Roger

Trad climber
here and there
Sep 9, 2013 - 08:50pm PT
Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Putin propose the handover of weapons, and din't he get Assad to agree. Where's the true media coverage?

So ask yourself.......

If the The point of bombing is to prevent the use of weapons, why didn't Obama propose what Putin has right off the bat? Instead it's we have to bomb you now.

Americans are being made the fool.

F the banker zionist. Go Putin

Sep 9, 2013 - 08:51pm PT
if done correctly.

Yeah they've been pretty good at it .... rolls eyes .....

Sep 9, 2013 - 08:51pm PT
Funny how those who claim that US intervention in the ME always ends badly conveniently forget about Kuwait. It can be done successfully, if done correctly.

Gulf I was done correctly? Why the reprise?


Sep 9, 2013 - 09:43pm PT
Quick Ron

Throw a bootleg play and score to tie the game ......

Sep 9, 2013 - 09:53pm PT
Hey Joe.

Ron just scored.

Your turn .....
Jeremy B.

Northern California
Sep 9, 2013 - 10:16pm PT
Kuwait is now the 5th richest country in the world, directly because of US military intervention
By GDP? Per capita GDP? Not seeing it...

C'mon Hedge, both you and the good doctor are coming across as way too eager; you've got to look at the longer picture. Now, if Obama is able to turn this into a workable solution, more power to him!

Unfortunately, this looks to me like at least the second major incident in this saga of Kerry talking before thinking. I think Lavrov took his advantage of that to quickly throw in a monkey wrench. You see, Syria has about a 1000 tons of CW scattered around the country, and not all of it under regime control. Logistically the task is completely infeasible.

Russia knows this, and so does the U.S., but the man on the street doesn't. The Russians just gave Europe (and some Congresscritters) the excuse they need to bail on an attack. Now it's true that this also gives Obama an alternate exit, but it ends up making the U.S. look weak and indecisive.

Sep 9, 2013 - 10:20pm PT
Werner - Why are you encouraging such disgusting behavior on a climber's discussion forum? These type of threads generate nothing but hate, they bump the climbing threads down. The hate infects the climbing threads as well.

Joe - Why are you playing down to Ron's level? If you would like to present your side of the debate more effectively, ignore him.

C'mon, guys. You must have a ton of climbing stories. I couldn't hold a candle to them, I know you are having a chuckle, but it's coming at the expense of dragging the whole place down.

Social climber
So Cal
Sep 9, 2013 - 10:29pm PT

Trad climber
Western America
Sep 9, 2013 - 10:36pm PT
We've seen this Syrian story before in

Wag The Dog

Anne Heche: Why attack Albania? (Syria?)

Robert de Niro: Why not?

Anne Heche: What have they done to us?

Robert de Niro: What have they done FOR us? What do you know about them?

Anne Heche: Nothing.

Robert de Niro: See? They keep to themselves. Shifty. Untrustable.

Dustin Hoffman: The President will be a hero. He brought peace.

Robert de Niro: But there was never a war.

Dustin Hoffman: All the greater accomplishment.


Social climber
So Cal
Sep 9, 2013 - 10:36pm PT
Yes, the moron is wearing red isn't he.

Sep 9, 2013 - 10:36pm PT
LOL too funny.

Hey Joe don't so mean. C'mon man you can do better.

Tell us the story of when you free soloed Rostrum and you came up to me at the crux and I was crying like a girl.

You had to pull me up while hanging on some finger tip crimper with one hand yarding my sorry ass up there.

Sep 9, 2013 - 10:38pm PT
TGT is doing nothing other than cross-posting from this dumb forum, a half-dozen photos a day.

Obviously offensive, much of it borderline racist. It presents no information, it's only purpose is to rile people up.

Why is this garbage on a climber's discussion forum?

Trad climber
Sep 9, 2013 - 10:50pm PT
Nuke time! This thread has deteriorated to derogatory comments and trash talk.

Social climber
So Cal
Sep 9, 2013 - 10:50pm PT
The village of Maaloula has been taken over by Syrian rebels associated with al Qaeda, who have stormed the Christian center and offered local Christians a choice: conversion or death. A resident of the town said the rebels shouted “Allahu Akhbar” as they moved through the village, and proceeded to assault Christian homes and churches.

“They shot and killed people,” he said. “I heard gunshots and then I saw three bodies lying in the middle of a street in the old quarters of the village. Where is President Obama to see what has befallen us?” Another witness stated, “I saw the militants grabbing five villagers and threatening them and saying, ‘Either you convert to Islam, or you will be beheaded.’”

The village is located just 25 miles from Damascus, and sites within the village are dedicated as United Nations world heritage sites. Residents still speak Aramaic, the language of Jesus. The rebels who took over the city are associated with the al Nusra Front, an al Qaeda-associated Islamist group. Villagers reported foreign dialects ranging from Tunisian to Libyan, from Moroccan to Chechen.

Wade Icey

Trad climber
Sep 9, 2013 - 10:53pm PT

Sep 9, 2013 - 10:54pm PT
Dr F. - I disagree. There's a difference between an insult and a discussion.

Show me the discussion in the image TGT posted above? I see no discussion.

Then you say "case closed," which I guess proves my point. You win.

Sep 9, 2013 - 10:54pm PT
johntp -- "Nuke time!"

Don't do it just leave em alone man.

Don't become another Obummer ......


Sep 9, 2013 - 11:04pm PT
I think there are a few things you could do:
 ignore them, starve them of attention
 conduct a respectful discussion with each other, even if you disagree
 behave in a respectful manner, so their indiscretions will stand out to the eyes of the moderator
 don't engage them, don't let them play with you

Otherwise, you play into their hands, they make you look like an equal fool.
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